Previous version of Windows in VirtualBox - Boredom

stinger608 · Sep 13, 2020

johnspack said:
Just found this in my vmware collection, converted it to virtualbox for linux:

This is Neptune booting up.... it never made it out as an os... too bad!

So you actually use Virtualbox and might be able to answer this question?

I loaded Windows 98SE in the install went just fine. It rebooted and then states "not enough memory, please shut down anything running" or something very similar.

I have to think it's something to do with Virtualbox.

I have the latest version with the correct extension pack. Not sure what is going on.

windwhirl · Sep 13, 2020

stinger608 said:
So you actually use Virtualbox and might be able to answer this question?

I loaded Windows 98SE in the install went just fine. It rebooted and then states "not enough memory, please shut down anything running" or something very similar.

I have to think it's something to do with Virtualbox.

I have the latest version with the correct extension pack. Not sure what is going on.

You get that far? I just get stuck halfway through before Explorer starts throwing errors and exceptions.

Though maybe it is a Ryzen thing? Heard something about it a while ago, but can't really remember what exactly...

biffzinker · Sep 13, 2020

windwhirl said:
Though maybe it is a Ryzen thing? Heard something about it a while ago, but can't really remember what exactly...

Are you referring to this?

Re: Windows 98 SE installation fails

There have been several other threads on this (including one of mine) - Windows 9x fails in Workstation 15 on AMD Ryzen. Apparently there is a mistake in AMD's implementation of an obsolete instruction set called VME that causes issues with 32bit real-mode drivers. Supposedly AMD somewhat...

communities.vmware.com

windwhirl · Sep 13, 2020

biffzinker said:
Are you referring to this?

Re: Windows 98 SE installation fails

There have been several other threads on this (including one of mine) - Windows 9x fails in Workstation 15 on AMD Ryzen. Apparently there is a mistake in AMD's implementation of an obsolete instruction set called VME that causes issues with 32bit real-mode drivers. Supposedly AMD somewhat...

communities.vmware.com

Yeah, that seems to be it. I might have to disable Hyper-V first, though...

johnspack · Sep 13, 2020

Here's my settings for win98se for virtualbox, and 98se running..

stinger608 · Sep 13, 2020

johnspack said:
Here's my settings for win98se for virtualbox, and 98se running..

Awesome bro. I'll look at my settings as see if something is amiss on it. Thanks for posting these. :respect:

johnspack · Sep 14, 2020

Heh, here's a mongrel os. It's basically windows 3.1 on top of ntfs! Requires 3 boot floppies and the cd. Video driver was a pita to install, no guest additions for this os....

Might as well show how much NT 4 progressed. It used the slick "new" win95 interface. I dual booted with it and win95, win98 and 98se until win2k came out and I dumped them all.

Well, that double posting feature is annoying... I needed to separate the nt 3.51 from the nt 4 screens... it wouldn't let me
Well as long as people know they are competely different oses on the same screen!

biffzinker · Sep 15, 2020

johnspack said:
Well as long as people know they are competely different oses on the same screen!

The GUI change should be obvious which screenshot belongs to NT3.51, and NT4.0.

johnspack · Sep 15, 2020

Well for most of us in here.... the funny thing is not much difference under the hood. Both NT. But that god awful win 3.1 gui on nt... I have to try to install NT 3.1 still. Very first NT, grandfather of
all modern oses. Amazing these old NTs are what windows 10 is based on!

lemonadesoda · Sep 15, 2020

These screenshots are like going into a museum of classical paintings.

johnspack · Sep 19, 2020

Well might as well finish the museum with grandaddy. NT 3.1, where it all began. This took a pile of tweaks and hacks to get installed, but
all updated to sp3, it's ready to go!

biffzinker · Sep 19, 2020

@johnspack
Are up for trying OS/2 Warp 4.52?

birdie · Sep 19, 2020

The worst thing about old operating systems is that you cannot browse the web with them any longer: the WWW has long shifted from insecure OpenSSL cyphers to TLS 1.1 and higher and there aren't that many websites which still work via the plain old HTTP protocol. Luckily we have http://web.archive.org but it's pretty limited as you must know all the URLs in advance and then it doesn't serve fresh data unless it's been saved by someone. Oh, and forget about searching the web. Google/Bing/DuckDuckGo all work via https exclusively.

It's even started affecting currently supported operating systems like Windows 7 and 8. Install them and you'll find out that you cannot even download updates automatically any longer. You first need to patch them extensively to enable modern HTTPS ciphers. Sigh.

lemonadesoda · Sep 19, 2020

birdie said:
The worst thing about old operating systems is that you cannot browse the web with them any longer: the WWW has long shifted from insecure OpenSSL cyphers to TLS 1.1 and higher and there aren't that many websites which still work via plain the old HTTP protocol. Luckily we have http://web.archive.org but it's pretty limited as you must know all the URLs in advance and then it doesn't serve fresh data unless it's been saved by someone. Oh, and forget about searching the web. Google/Bing/DuckDuckGo all work via https exclusively.

It's even started affecting currently supported operating systems like Windows 7 and 8. Install them and you'll find out that you cannot even download updates automatically any longer. You first need to patch them extensively to enable modern HTTPS ciphers. Sigh.

seems like we need a proxy server that converts https to http

johnspack · Sep 20, 2020

biffzinker said:
@johnspack
Are up for trying OS/2 Warp 4.52?

C'mon, you know I'm already on it! Still figuring out drivers ect, it's much bitchyer than nt...

johnspack · Sep 21, 2020

If you want to see what happened to warp, this is it. eComStation 2.1 last version from 2011. Not really sure why really...

Bigger pain to install than NT 3.1.

AltCapwn · Sep 23, 2020

biffzinker said:
Are you gonna boot Windows 1.04, 2.0, and 2.11?

Maybe?

But I'm now on a project to configure a fortigate at my home so this will have to wait.
And I'm stuck at playing Dying light hellraid and The Outer World new DLC :laugh:

johnspack · Sep 23, 2020

I'll try windows 2.11 next, have the installs. Back in the day I didn't bother with windows 1 and 2, stuck with dos. So I am kind of curious.

Jeez... okay, got it installed. Dam it's primitive. Was able to use dos 6.2 to install it on top of.

Apps and commands are what you see. You click on an exe to get it to run.
You have no idea how jealous I was of my professor when he got a brand new 386 computer,
and all us students had were xt computers.. not even 286s, which he just replaced... bugger....

johnspack · Oct 13, 2020

Thought this might be fun to see. A 32 bit os from 2000 running 8 cores and 8GB of ram! Windows 2000 Advanced Server.
Also have kernelx installed so can run firefox esr 52.9 and load modern web pages. Don't recommend this though, TPU is
the only page I tried.

System Name	Dean Machine/2020 Ryzenfall
Processor	Intel 4790K/AMD Ryzen 3700X
Motherboard	MSI 1150 Gaming mATX/Gigabyte AORUS ELITE B550
Cooling	Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED/SilverStone AH240 AIO
Memory	16 gigs Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer/16 gigs G.Skill TridentZ NEO DDR4
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte 1660 Super/Gigabyte GTX 1660
Storage	Crucial SSD 256 and 2TB spinner/Dual Samsung 980 Pro M2 NVME 4.0
Display(s)	Overlord 27" 2560 x 1440
Case	Corsair Air 540
Audio Device(s)	On board
Power Supply	Seasonic modular 850 watt Platinum/EVGA T2-850 Titanium
Software	Windows 10 Pro/Windows 10 Pro

System Name	System V
Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard	Asus Prime X570-P
Cooling	Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs)
Memory	2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36)
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB
Storage	SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / WD20EZRX / MKNSSDTR256GB-3DL / LG BH16NS40 / ST10000VN0008
Display(s)	LG 22MP55 IPS Display
Case	NZXT Source 210
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G430 Headset
Power Supply	Corsair CX650M
Mouse	Microsoft Trackball Optical 1.0
Keyboard	HP Vectra VE keyboard (Part # D4950-63004)
Software	Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Dev channel at the time.
Benchmark Scores	Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624

Processor	Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard	MSI B450 Tomahawk ATX
Cooling	Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition
Memory	VENGEANCE LPX 2 x 16GB DDR4-3600 C18 OCed 3800
Video Card(s)	XFX Speedster SWFT309 AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT CORE Gaming
Storage	970 EVO NVMe M.2 500 GB, 870 QVO 1 TB
Display(s)	Samsung 28” 4K monitor
Case	Phantek Eclipse P400S (PH-EC416PS)
Audio Device(s)	EVGA NU Audio
Power Supply	EVGA 850 BQ
Mouse	SteelSeries Rival 310
Keyboard	Logitech G G413 Silver
Software	Windows 10 Professional 64-bit v22H2

System Name	System V
Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard	Asus Prime X570-P
Cooling	Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs)
Memory	2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36)
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB
Storage	SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / WD20EZRX / MKNSSDTR256GB-3DL / LG BH16NS40 / ST10000VN0008
Display(s)	LG 22MP55 IPS Display
Case	NZXT Source 210
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G430 Headset
Power Supply	Corsair CX650M
Mouse	Microsoft Trackball Optical 1.0
Keyboard	HP Vectra VE keyboard (Part # D4950-63004)
Software	Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Dev channel at the time.
Benchmark Scores	Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624

System Name	System2 Blacknet , System1 Blacknet2
Processor	System2 Threadripper 1920x, System1 2699 v3
Motherboard	System2 Asrock Fatality x399 Professional Gaming, System1 Asus X99-A
Cooling	System2 Noctua NH-U14 TR4-SP3 Dual 140mm fans, System1 AIO
Memory	System2 64GBS DDR4 3000, System1 32gbs DDR4 2400
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Storage	System2 4x SSDs + NVme= 2.250TB 2xStorage Drives=8TB System1 3x SSDs=2TB
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Case	System2 Some Nzxt case with soundproofing...
Audio Device(s)	Asus Xonar U7 MKII
Power Supply	System2 EVGA 750 Watt, System1 XFX XTR 750 Watt
Mouse	Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum
Keyboard	Ducky
Software	Manjaro, Windows 10, Kubuntu 23.10
Benchmark Scores	It's linux baby!

Previous version of Windows in VirtualBox - Boredom

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windwhirl

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Re: Windows 98 SE installation fails

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Re: Windows 98 SE installation fails

johnspack

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Processor	Q6600 // 2x Xeon 5472
Memory	2GB DDR // 8GB FB-DIMM
Video Card(s)	HD3850-AGP // FireGL 3400
Display(s)	2 x Samsung 204Ts = 3200x1200
Audio Device(s)	Audigy 2
Software	Windows Server 2003 R2 as a Workstation now migrated to W10 with regrets.