Problem: StarCraft II sucks. Solution: Ban game-reviews.

douglatins · Jul 24, 2010

newtekie1 said:
But the beta is not the final game. There really isn't any other good reason to not allow reviews other than being scared of what the reviews have to say.

If a beta says anything about a game then MoH will be a MAJOR FAIL

a_ump · Jul 24, 2010

i agree with the creativity part, other dev's definitely need to step up and make something, not rework what's already been done. And to those that said valve is creative, f'n A they are, i have yet to play 2 of their games that are identical or share the same gameplay. Yea, kill the other team but the way you go about doing it is different in all of their games, and on top of it Valve releases free games, give outragous discounts on games. Valve is where it's at.

TheLaughingMan · Jul 24, 2010

douglatins said:
If a beta says anything about a game then MoH will be a MAJOR FAIL

It just didn't.....feel fun....if that makes any sense. I mean it looks like a weird mix of Call of Duty: Modern Warfail 2 and BFBC2, but sucks at pretending to be either.

On the Valve note. With Alien Swarm, I know the original was an Unreal Engine mode (I forget the name right now), but the free one that Valve is giving away on Steam has menu's that look a lot like Portal and L4D2? Did they buy the game and rebuilt it with Source?

AphexDreamer · Jul 24, 2010

TheLaughingMan said:
It just didn't.....feel fun....if that makes any sense. I mean it looks like a weird mix of Call of Duty: Modern Warfail 2 and BFBC2, but sucks at pretending to be either.

On the Valve note. With Alien Swarm, I know the original was an Unreal Engine mode (I forget the name right now), but the free one that Valve is giving away on Steam has menu's that look a lot like Portal and L4D2? Did they buy the game and rebuilt it with Source?

Another reason to give out Alien Swarm for free. Its pretty much a regurgitation of L4D and TF2 attributes with out it being either. But because both those games or so much fun all they had to do was add a new theme to it and BAM Alien Swarm.

wahdangun · Jul 24, 2010

after their butcher lan,and make it three separated games, it really fail in my book,

Dazzeerr · Jul 24, 2010

As I do with all RTS games, I'll wait for reviewers and friends to play it. I find with RTS' they can change small or simple parts of the game that make it a lot less enjoyable to play.

Phxprovost · Jul 24, 2010

i hope the game fails, what they've done to it pisses me off beyond belief :shadedshu

a_ump · Jul 25, 2010

do elaborate phxprovost. i haven't gotten used to all the tactic changes but i def don't dislike em.

TheMailMan78 · Jul 25, 2010

When they ditched lan that was enough for me to want this game to fail.

Champ · Jul 25, 2010

So, three campaigns over three CDs at full price per CD? I'll be....errr. It's probably cheaper wait for all three to release and they make the bundle pack. My boy works at BB and was gonna try to get me into the release party, but now I find out it's not the completely game. That's crap!!!

KainXS · Jul 25, 2010

yeah usually if the game sells like shit the price will drop after a few months, im not even gonna trust reviews though

money talks you know

kid41212003 · Jul 26, 2010

Either way im going to play the game.

Wrigleyvillain · Jul 26, 2010

So glad I never gave a shit about this franchise.

Cheeseball · Jul 26, 2010

what i laugh more about is the 3 seperate campaigns over time at $60 each so to own all of SC2 you gotta spend $180 and the new battlenet means any user mods are completely owned by blizzard and they can charge for user mods. Said mod makers have no choice in the matter either

There are no "user mods", they're all created within the Campaign Editor.

I'm still going to buy this game. I've got a bone to pick with some Korean players in my region.

magibeg · Jul 26, 2010

As someone who has played starcraft 2 for several months now on the beta I'd say it's actually a fantastically fun game with a few issues:

1. LAN play should have been allowed. I used to play starcraft at my cottage with a few friends over LAN but this wouldn't be possible for starcraft 2 because of no internet.

2. It's not as responsive as starcraft 1 is. Basically it's harder to micro a few units quickly to do the most possible damage. For most players this isn't an issue but for high end 250++ apm players this could be a huge issue.

Outside of those issues it's an incredible fun game and it's not just like the old game. A lot of the basic game dynamics are completely different and the game definitely has a different feel to it. Have to wait and see if the campaign matters or not.

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Jul 26, 2010

erocker said:
I don't care for Starcraft, but after playing the beta I think people who do enjoy this type of game will be pleased.

Lemme guess.. koreans? Dunno.. just a wild guess..

CJCerny · Jul 26, 2010

newtekie1 said:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/07/23/no-starcraft-2-reviews-before-lunch/

Really? No reviews at all before the game is released? I detect major fail with this game...

I got $5 that says that Starcraft II is anything but "major fail". In the long run, I suspect it will run up the sales charts all the way to #2 behind all the Sims games. You may not like the "no pre-release review" thing or the "this game is gonna cost you $150 if you buy each release when it is new" thing, but I'm pretty sure that the fine people at Blizzard have done enough homework to know that the demand for the game is gonna run right over those small speedbumps.

copenhagen69 · Jul 26, 2010

hopefully this game fails fast and hard ...

D3 anyone? :rockout:

KainXS · Jul 26, 2010

CJCerny said:
I got $5 that says that Starcraft II is anything but "major fail". In the long run, I suspect it will run up the sales charts all the way to #2 behind all the Sims games. You may not like the "no pre-release review" thing or the "this game is gonna cost you $150 if you buy each release when it is new" thing, but I'm pretty sure that the fine people at Blizzard have done enough homework to know that the demand for the game is gonna run right over those small speedbumps.

you think starcraft 2 is gonna sell as well as the sims games . . . . . . . :laugh:

the sims is targeted towards pretty much . . . . . . everyone and has high sales because of that, starcraft though is targeted towards a specific group of gamers, its not gonna happen.

magibeg · Jul 26, 2010

I just don't know why there is so much hate towards it.

I mean of course game reviews aren't going to happen until the game is actually released. Everyone got to play the beta but by no means did we have the full game. They regularly made fairly substantial changes to the game play on a week by week basis.

Yea they're releasing the campaigns separately but who is to say that they're not 3 extremely well made campaigns that are each capable of being their own game? No one was mad when there was half-life episode 1, 2 etc etc.

Use a little logic before you dis on the game. Just because there is 3 separate campaigns doesn't mean each one isn't worth the money. Basically stop being a bunch of babies about a game most of you haven't played and none of you have played fully then wish it to fail.

Hybrid_theory · Jul 26, 2010

I just don't know why there is so much hate towards it.

I mean of course game reviews aren't going to happen until the game is actually released. Everyone got to play the beta but by no means did we have the full game. They regularly made fairly substantial changes to the game play on a week by week basis.

Yea they're releasing the campaigns separately but who is to say that they're not 3 extremely well made campaigns that are each capable of being their own game? No one was mad when there was half-life episode 1, 2 etc etc.

Use a little logic before you dis on the game. Just because there is 3 separate campaigns doesn't mean each one isn't worth the money. Basically stop being a bunch of babies about a game most of you haven't played and none of you have played fully then wish it to fail.

Exactly. Although reviewers should get early access to help you fence sitters decide on the game, but besides that its still a great game. The beta helped rid it of some issues (primarily balance). Each separate installment is meant to have 25+ missions in the campaign, and if you dont want to buy the others, you dont have to. It wont limit your online experience much (there may be added maps and such with the zerg/protoss expansions; not much info on this).

If you change the game too much, it won't be starcraft anymore.

Yukikaze · Jul 26, 2010

I am not looking forward to it, and I really dislike Blizzard after Diablo 2 grew old (and that one was only fun because I was of the age to enjoy a mindless click-fest back then), but I don't expect it to be outright bad. It won't be anything spectacular, either, and it will probably get insanely good reviews (Just like GTA IV did, for example....and that game was quite sucky) from biased/bribed/fanboy'ed review sites.

In general: Starcraft 2? Meh. Gimme a good Jagged Alliance 3 instead.

CJCerny · Jul 26, 2010

KainXS said:
you think starcraft 2 is gonna sell as well as the sims games . . . . . . .

the sims is targeted towards pretty much . . . . . . everyone and has high sales because of that, starcraft though is targeted towards a specific group of gamers, its not gonna happen.

Read my post again. BEHIND the Sims games.

Not sure where all the hate is coming from on this game. Maybe it's because Blizzard is big and successful. Maybe they want too much $$ for their product. I dunno. News flash--they got big and successful because they make great games that appeal to a lot of people and price them accordingly. This is called capitalism. That's how the free world operates. I don't expect StarCraft 2 to be any different.

CDdude55 · Jul 26, 2010

CJCerny said:
Read my post again. BEHIND the Sims games.

Not sure where all the hate is coming from on this game. Maybe it's because Blizzard is big and successful. Maybe they want too much $$ for their product. I dunno. News flash--they got big and successful because they make great games that appeal to a lot of people and price them accordingly. This is called capitalism. That's how the free world operates. I don't expect StarCraft 2 to be any different.

No ones arguing that though, we all know why Blizzard bathes in a pool of money. I don't even think they have said a price for it yet, so i don't see a reason or anyone to get mad at that.

This game will see like crazy with or without the money of the people posting negitive things about it.

CJCerny · Jul 26, 2010

CDdude55 said:
No ones arguing that though, we all know why Blizzard bathes in a pool of money. I don't even think they have said a price for it yet, so i don't see a reason or anyone to get mad at that.

This game will see like crazy with or without the money of the people posting negitive things about it.

Every ad I saw for it in the local newspaper yesterday shows the regular release at $60 and the SE at $100, so the prices have definitely been set.

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