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Hi, I have just purchased a new case which comes with a CM eXtreme Power 460W PSU. I was wondering if this would be enough for the following build?

Core2Duo e4500
Asus P5B MBoard
1 Sata HD and 1 PATA HD
4/5 USB devices
2 GIG DDR2 800 MHZ
Radeon XT1900
Maybe a Hauppage TV Card

I was also looking to overclock the cpu a bit as well

Any advice would be appreciated
Ta

Ps I have a hiper 530w PSU in my current setup.

PSU Specs For the 460W

1. Compliance with the newest Intel standard ATX 12V V2.3
2. More than 70% efficiency at typical load operation
3. High reliability (MTBF > 100,000 hrs)
4. Green power design to meet Energy Star and Blue Angel requirements
5. Silent operation with intelligent fan speed control
6. Multiple protection design(OVP/OCP/OPP/SCP)
7. Support dual +12V1 and +12V2 outputs for higher power usage
8. Two-year warranty

Model RS-460-PCAP-A3
Type Intel Form Factor ATX 12V V2.3
Dimension (W / H / D) Intel Form Factor ATX 12V V2.3
Input Voltage 180~264 V
Input Current 10 A @ 115Vac / 6 A @ 230Vac
Input Frequency Range 47 ~ 63 Hz
PFC Passive PFC
Power Good Signal 100 ~ 500 ms
Hold Up Time > 17 ms
Efficiency >70% Typically
MTBF >100,000 hrs
Protection OVP / OCP / OPP / SCP
Max. Output Capacity 460 Watts
Operation Temperature 0~40 Nominal Input Voltage
 

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#2
Stick with the hyper, the Generic PSU's included in most case "Deals" are usually low quality. Why take a chance the Low Quality psu will blow taking other components(like the motherboard) with it.

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Replace it with the Hiper mate. I've got one and it's an awesome PSU.
 
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Just a quote from the guide:

"Hiper **very notorious eh?** ----bad quality
Known Manufacturers - Andyson
Specific Units

All units - Andyson E239028 ---bad

Hipro** not to be confused with hiper, hipro is very popular in europe, they are a small oem, and their brand is a mix of their own products and topower products.** --- mixed quality
Known Manufacturers - Hipro, Topower
Specific Units

Units with HP Prefix - Hipro E143709 --bad
Units with TOP Prefix - Topower" ---good


Coolermaster:
"Coolermaster -mixed quality
Known Manufacturers - Acbel Polytec, Enhance, Hipro, Seventeam
Specific Units:

Real Power 550W - Acbel Polytec E131875 -bad
eXtremePower 430W - Hipro E143709 -bad
eXtremePower 600W - Seventeam UL Not stated -good
eXtremePower 650W - Seventeam UL Not stated -good
Real Power Pro 750W - Acbel Polytec --bad
Real Power Pro 850/1000W - Enhance -good
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Just a quote from the guide:

"Hiper **very notorious eh?** ----bad quality
Known Manufacturers - Andyson
Specific Units

All units - Andyson E239028 ---bad

Hipro** not to be confused with hiper, hipro is very popular in europe, they are a small oem, and their brand is a mix of their own products and topower products.** --- mixed quality
Known Manufacturers - Hipro, Topower
Specific Units

Units with HP Prefix - Hipro E143709 --bad
Units with TOP Prefix - Topower" ---good
2 Hiper units. All still standing.

Every single person I know who has a Hiper is still working, granted they are all Type-Rs but they still stand. Not only that but Hiper is now producing new 80+ compliant PSUs, which does requires a certain degree of quality wouldn't you agree?
 
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2 Hiper units. All still standing.

Every single person I know who has a Hiper is still working, granted they are all Type-Rs but they still stand. Not only that but Hiper is now producing new 80+ compliant PSUs, which does requires a certain degree of quality wouldn't you agree?
Its not like they all will fail in 5 sec. and failure of PSu isn't the only think that goes into quality.
if you go and look at reviews of any PSU, they don't just test if PSU is working or not. there are plenty of other requirement for PSU to be a high quality
 
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Its not like they all will fail in 5 sec. and failure of PSu isn't the only think that goes into quality.
if you go and look at reviews of any PSU, they don't just test if PSU is working or not. there are plenty of other requirement for PSU to be a high quality
I know, but from my experience with Hiper they fit the catergory of "quality PSU". They may not be the best, but they are damn good.
 
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#9
Cheers for the replys! The PSU is a cooler master, is that not a good make?
coolermaster is ok, but your much better off with a better quality psu if you can afford one but you dont "need" to replace it since it will supply the power you need for your system.

there is absolutely nothing wrong with using lesser quality brand psu but they do have a higher % of failure rates (1 out of 1000 might fail vs say 1 out of 5000 for a better quality psu) and any time a psu fails it can take out any component in your system or it may not harm anything else at all, its all just pure luck as to what gets damaged. think of having a better quality psu as getting insurance against it going out, there is no way to say the better psu wont fail but having one can reduce the chance of having problems.
 
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hmmm it was just easier if i could have used that psu and case. well I'll take my current setup and put it in that case and install my new core2duo setup into the antec p180 and hiper psu. Cheers for the help. btw the modular hiper type r i am using dosen't fit into an antec p180 very well. Much better to buy one of the normal ones in my humble opinion! Cheers
 

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coolermaster is ok, but your much better off with a better quality psu if you can afford one but you dont "need" to replace it since it will supply the power you need for your system.

there is absolutely nothing wrong with using lesser quality brand psu but they do have a higher % of failure rates (1 out of 1000 might fail vs say 1 out of 5000 for a better quality psu) and any time a psu fails it can take out any component in your system or it may not harm anything else at all, its all just pure luck as to what gets damaged. think of having a better quality psu as getting insurance against it going out, there is no way to say the better psu wont fail but having one can reduce the chance of having problems.
+1

hipers (with the exclusion of type R's, which i believe are good) are very very notorious for using fugisitu(however the hell its spelled) caps. though i've been told that R series hipers are good. and cooler master psus are a mixed bag. btw the psu guide is a little outdated =/ gotta update it over christmas.
 
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+1

hipers (with the exclusion of type R's, which i believe are good) are very very notorious for using fugisitu(however the hell its spelled) caps. though i've been told that R series hipers are good. and cooler master psus are a mixed bag. btw the psu guide is a little outdated =/ gotta update it over christmas.
Fujitsu?
 

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thats the ticket, dont expect me to spell properly when im :ohwell: lol
 

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Some things to keep in mind;
Electronics are not "IDEAL". IF you get a PSU with the exact wattage you "need" then you will probably end up having to replace more than just the PSU, soon.
PSU's are the heart of your system, if your heart is always beating as fast as possable (to keep up with the demand) it won't last very long. The harder the PSU works the more heat it generates.

A PSU that supplies more power than you need works less hard and last longer.
Always pay attention to the power requirements of the GPU (in watts).

When Buying a NEW PSU, get the BEST, QUALITY PSU you can afford with MORE power than you "need". This allows room for future upgrades, and will give you better overclocks, smoother operation, and the PSU will last longer and run cooler because it's not working so hard to supply the draw of your system.

Power Supply Guide;http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=39758&highlight=PSU

The Quality list;http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=38983&highlight=PSU&page=3

Power Supply Calculator;http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

The Truth about GPU Requirements;http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=7&t=9354

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heehee i love the electronics are not ideal speech that you always make namslas, you gotta like copyright that lmao