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  1. StanicEnemy

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    Hello i am new here i saw that this website is useful and having people that has knowledge.

    I am currently running on a stock psu that came with pc chasis since 2014.
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    I want to upgrade my psu in order to protect my pc components.

    I live in Turkey,everything is overpriced here i am looking for 700w-750w psu 'cause I will be upgrading my system in the future so I wont need to buy another psu.

    The max money I have is 315TL (Turkish Lira) I have found some psu that I really loved.

    Is this psu good enough to carry me for years?
    https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=100-B1-0700-K1
    CABLE LENGTH
    ATX CABLE 1x 550mm
    EPS CABLE 1x 600mm
    PCIE CABLE 1x 550mm, 670mm
    SATA CABLE 3x 450mm, 570mm, 690mm
    FOUR-PIN PERIPHERAL CABLE 1x 450mm, 570mm, 690mm (f)
    FLOPPY ADAPTER 1x 120mm
    AC POWER 1x 1200mm (m)
    MODULAR CABLE TYPE No
    CONNECTOR QUANTITY
    24 PIN ATX 1x
    EPS (CPU) 1x 8pin (4+4)
    PCIE 2x 8pin (6+2)
    SATA 9x
    FOUR-PIN PERIPHERAL 3x
    FLOPPY 1x
    POWER SPECS
    AC Input 100 - 240 VAC, 10/6A, 50 - 60 Hz
    Rail +3.3V +5V +12V +5Vsb -12V
    Max Output 24A 20A 56A 3A 0.3A
    56A
    150W 672W 15W 3.6W
    Total 700W @ +40C
    ADDITIONAL DETAILS
    OPERATING TEMPERATURE 0° to 50° C
    JAPANESE CAPACITORS No
    ECO MODE No
    MTBF 100,000 Hours
    NET WEIGHT 5 lbs
    SIZE 85mm (H) x 150mm (W) x 140mm (L)
    APPROVALS TUV, CB, CE, FCC, RCM, cTUVus, BSMI, CCC, WEEE, RoHS
    Compliance with ErP Lot 6 2013 Requirement
    FAN SIZE / BEARING 120mm Sleeve Bearing



    My pc specs
    CPU:Intel i5 4440 3.1ghz 1150
    GPU:Nvidia GTX 1050ti MSI Gaming X
    PSU:400watt
    HDD:WD Blue ezex 2017 edition 7200rpm 1tb 64mb cache
    HDD:Seagate 500gb 5900 rpm 6mb cache
    SSD:Corsair Force Le 200 120gb 500 write/read speed
    Mobo:Asus H81M-C
    Ram:8GB (4gb Corsair 4gb kingston)
    Soundcard:SteelSeries 7.1
    Xbox 360 Pc controller
    Asus Cerberus Gaming Headset
    X7 G800V Gaming Keyboard
    X7 XL 750-BH Gaming Keyboard
    X7 Gaming Mousepad

    Thank you in advice best regards.

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    Have you got any links to the shops in your region? I would suggest looking for a modular or a semi-modular power supply, judging by the pic of your case, there's not much space for all the cables to be tucked into.
     
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    Sure thing here is a few most famous companies that sell pc stuffs.

    http://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/guc-kaynaklari-power/
    http://www.nanokatalog.com/Guc-Kaynagi,LA_572-2.html#labels=572-2
    https://www.itopya.com/bilgisayar-parcalari/ana-parcalar/power-supply-psu/
    http://www.sanalmarketim.com/Power-Supply
     
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    A reputable psumaker that may be available in europe/asia more cheaply than some better recognized names (ie Seasonic) is Superflower. Run the model by us first, but that's a name to watch out for.
     
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    wow, that current psu is concerning me

    i'd say more important than the total wattage is that 12v wattage, which is what most of the demanding components use... on yours it says 260w, which would mean that if you had a 90w cpu with a 190w gpu, i dont think you'd have enough to power them both during load even though they are together under the final 400w total

    for a new psu, 700-750 seems like extra, not that it's a problem, just might mean extra money spent on something you might not fully use

    the main thing i'd look for is one with 2x8pin pcie cables, these might even go down to 550w, but as long as it's a good brand & the 12v is at or near 550, it should be fine, then i'd aim for 80+ bronze certification at minimum

    modular is probably a good idea so you dont have extra cables taking up space

    some first brands i'd consider: seasonic, corsair, maybe enermax

    some secondary brands: cooler master, antec, thermaltake, evga

    sometimes a brand makes a bad model, sometimes it makes a great model, this is why it's important to check web reviews & the amount of customer reviews on places like newegg or amazon

    i wish your country peace along with free & open internet, i also wish peace to your neighbors especially syria, i visit bulgaria for vacations, sometimes have listened to turkish music on the radio (edit: i also saw a really cool documentary about vestel's factory where they make televisions & appliances)
     
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    Thank you for giving me such info but I want 700-750 w for the future upgrade,could you please give me psu's that I can afford to buy?
    I have visited several forums and asked them which psu is the best for me and they all gave me different answers.
    I am pretty confused now.
    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3523922/psu-suggestion-600w.html
    www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/784705-New-pc-chasis-and-psu
     
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    No one too blame but yourself for shopping around forums.
     
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    Yes, unfortunately ask 10 different forums and you will likely get 10 different answers.

    I'd like to think we know what we're talking about... usually. :laugh:
     
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    there is no best, this is the mistake many people assume (or if there is a best, it costs $2,000 & is designed for extreme usage)

    there are multiple competing products that give about the same result, as long as you choose one of the good ones, make sure it has good detailed reviews by multiple sites, & make sure that there are hundreds of user reviews on american stores or pcpartpicker, then the choice should be fine

    everything has variance, even within the same model, sometimes one out of a thousand fails, consider if you bought that failing one, would you never buy this brand again even though you see hundreds of positive reviews? consider how you're using a crap psu right now without it exploding (yet, haha), even i have used a crappy unknown chinese 420w many years ago with some overclocked parts, i didnt stop using it until it gave such bad voltage that one of my hard drives was shutting off during use

    so yes you plan for the future, but does this future contain two powerful gfx cards at once with a powerful or overclocked cpu? all this costs money, but also creates heat, annoying during the summer

    most people say it's best to get the fastest single gpu you can afford (because multiple gpus have performance or flickering issues), so that also means almost every gfx card available will use less than 300watts on their own (these are the worst/hottest cards, a gtx1080 is more like 200watts)

    then you got regular 4 to 8 core cpus that are 90-200w (normal to simple overclocked)

    the total so far is only 500w worst case, then budget some more watts for the rest of the computer, plus some more so that the psu isnt maxed out, now that results in an estimate of a good brand/model 600-650w psu being fine, this is my thought process

    EDIT: if a price, without sales, is the same across models/brands, in multiple countries, but the wattage is very different, then that would make the high wattage ones very suspicious in quality, because the compromise that the company has to make is either to use better parts at lower wattage or worse parts at higher wattage to fit within a fixed price limit

    since you have a price limit, you probably shouldnt hurry to buy, you should make sure to find sales on normally higher price models that you can catch at a temporary lower price, or avoid thinking about watts entirely, only look at price+brand+model+2x8pin (i really think 2x8pin will make choosing much easier, it lets you use 'all' normal high end gfx cards, while 1x6pin+1x8pin is 'most' or 'some' high end gfx cards, 2x6pin would be 'a few' high end & 'most' midrange gfx cards)
     
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    Thank you for enlightening i've had a research about psus over the internet there was not such information that you gave me,now i understand how it works how brands work.

    Would you suggest me this psu? https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=100-B1-0700-K1 this is the best psu i can buy here i found cooler master and corsair psus too but i think its the best so far?
     
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    (i made a second edit at the bottom of the last post)

    i am unsure about the evga, they specifically say no japanese capacitors, two pcie connectors, 672w available on 12v rail, 3 year warranty, it seems to compromise quality to get a wattage goal

    if we compare to corsair http://www.corsair.com/en-us/power-supply-units they say the CX series has four pcie connectors on the 750w & two connectors on the 650/550w, available 12v rail watts equal to total watts, 5 year warranty

    it's getting late here (8am), i better go to sleep, maybe i should check your store links tomorrow, but i am still guessing on the choice, i only easily spot the warning signs of a bad product, but hard to decide when there are the eventual good ones... sometimes if there is no choice at a price point, i'd rather not buy, i'd rather get more money first, or simply not plan for too high end
     
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    for most builds i have done / upgrade and built have used PSU's from 550W to 700W max, ando the perfect size PSU for most rigs is 550 or 650W, also, for your listed sys specs any 550W PSU will be enough, but if you plan to add better processor / video card a 600W 80+ PSU will fit perfectly,


    Aye, that PSU will provide decent power to all your PC hardware,

    complete this! will be appreciated and helpful 4 U
     
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    The 600 watt version of that received an 8.3 score, which is not very good, when it was reviewed here on TPU: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/600B/
    What do you hope to upgrade to? As @kn00tcn has tried to point out, most PC's today, even an i7 with a GTX 1080, can run just fine on a (decent) 500 watt PSU. I'd rather see you get a better quality 500 watt PSU than a lesser quality 700 watt unit.

    A little info. Your current PSU is a very old design, from the Pentium 4 days. Today's computers run almost exclusively on 12 volts, so that's all that really matters. That means you're running your current system on basically a 260 watt PSU!

    Where can you find good information about PSU's and not just a bunch of people's opinions? This site lists virtually all PSU's out there and the reviews that they have received from professional reviewers, like jonnyguru. Also, be careful with CoolerMaster. Although they make some good PSU's, some of their lower end units are just junk.

    If I were to recommend one PSU from the links you gave, it would be: http://www.nanokatalog.com/SEASONIC...-ATX-siyah-Guc-Kaynagi-unitesi,PR-156158.html

    Edit: Power supply prices outside of the USA are not fair.
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    I am hoping to upgrade my system to i7 7xxx and gtx 1070 etc but not any soon.

    I also really appreciate your help so you think that seasonic is way better than 700w psu?(dont get me wrong i have no idea about psus) but 700w has more watt on 12v?
    1$=3.5 Turkish Lira dollar is really expensive in Turkey and I am on very budget.

    i like to get more information from different people im a paranoid person about pcs.
     
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    As we said there, a 1070 and I7 CU will be fine on a quality 500W PSU.
     
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    Have a fun shipping to Turkey!!! That is a great deal though for sure!

    And I never understood this 'price + shipping' garbage. Raise the price and include shipping. Prevents so much back and forth.... :)
     
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    oh shit no kidding didn't see that coming lol
     
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    see if you can find the Seasonic Focus Gold Plus. They are really nice, and priced under $90 (here in the US) hopefully they are also cheaper than other similar quality PSU's in Your region.

    newegg turkey sells them for the equivalent of $90 usd. 319 lira . just navigate to the Newegg.com main page ,and at the top, select Your country from the drop down, its there i just looked / the 550 Watt unit would cost the equivalent of $78 usd.

    https://www.newegg.com/global/tr/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151186
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    Holy smokes! That's an awesome deal, and a better PSU than what I recommended.
     
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    10 year warranty to boot as well. Check the Specs out, i bought one myself a week ago, not only is it Top notch, but its smaller by a decent bit too....Still ATX, but smaller ATX like the size of a 140mm Fan ...iirc superflower (seasonic IS the OEM , what was i thinking o_O) OEM
     
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    There is none selling it in turkey and such a shame im missing this psu... seriously i havent order that one you guys linked before.
    And with Tax it costs 416 TL
     
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    Maybe it is best to just give us a link to where you are ordering from. ;)
     
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