Q9650 Overclocking And Feedback Thread

[Tatty_Two]

hello Tatty!

i cant get stable on the 4.2ghz can you help?

best
voxhel

Sounds like you need more VCore, drop it back to 4.1ghz first, that will also reduce ram speed, try it on about 1.40v and Orthos it.

 

[voxhel]

Sounds like you need more VCore, drop it back to 4.1ghz first, that will also reduce ram speed, try it on about 1.40v and Orthos it.

ok 483x8.5

othos first run ram stops after 52 secs secund run cpu stops after 18 secs.

 

[DaMulta]

hi..i heard that you know a lot of stuff about overclocking on this mobo..in about a week i'm getting my intel q9650 and asus striker II extreme..so with your experience?can i overclock it up to 4 ghz without getting hot and high voltages on the cpu?btw my ram is:4gb geil utlra (4*1GB)800mhz 4-4-4-12 2.1v..thx

I know with the QX it depends on the chip for voltage.

But yea it can be done.


install real temp for temps for that chip

[URL="http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/385/.html"]Install prime[/URL] to test your overclock
This will tell you if it's working correctly
CPU-Ztells you your speed in windows.


Now run the OC in unlinked mode. Set your ram where you want it.

Go down and turn off all the CPU temp control, throttle control everything like that.

Now under power

voltages

You will find the current voltages that you are working with.

and you can check your speed before you boot into windows in the cpu configuration window.


Now you don't have a unlocked chip. So your max FSB is going to be 450 or so.

to get the speed by knowing the math

it's fsb x the multiplier / 4

I forget the one for FSB I just woke up lol

Now clocking your cpu.

Slowly turn the fsb up. I like to do it by 1000 at a time. You can try 1455 which should set you right at 4.0Ghz and see if it will boot on all auto voltages. If it does not go read the current votages and just slowly bump them up(just the cpu)till it becomes stable with prime. Then let prime run for a couple of hours to make sure that it's 100% stable.

and real temp to mark where it is at. Try to keep the temp under 60c for the cpu other wise it will fry.

hi..i heard that you know a lot of stuff about overclocking on this mobo..in about a week i'm getting my intel q9650 and asus striker II extreme..so with your experience?can i overclock it up to 4 ghz without getting hot and high voltages on the cpu?btw my ram is:4gb geil utlra (4*1GB)800mhz 4-4-4-12 2.1v..thx

Remembered it, the math to find your fsb speed.

Also remember your max(buss speed) is going to be around 450


fsb(this is your clock speed in bios) x Multi / 4 = cpu speed / Multi = buss speed that u will see in cpu-z

Buss speed max(sometimes called fsb) max for your chip is around 450

happy ocing

I sent a PM of this to him but other people might want to see it.

 

[voxhel]

Sounds like you need more VCore, drop it back to 4.1ghz first, that will also reduce ram speed, try it on about 1.40v and Orthos it.

how can i had more vcore without freezzz?

 

[Tatty_Two]

how can i had more vcore without freezzz?

OK, give me your last STABLE (as in Orthos stable, meaning at least 1 hour stressing CPU and RAM) speed and settings and we will go from there.....I dont think those previous speeds we acheived were Orthos tested????

 

[kiddyoverclocker93]

Guys help!!x48 chipset or 790i?in other words...asus rampage extreme or asus striker ii extreme?

 

[Tatty_Two]

Guys help!!x48 chipset or 790i?in other words...asus rampage extreme or asus striker ii extreme?

You can answer that yourself by thinking Graphics card and what is your likely upgrade route in the future....they are both very good boards, they will both overclock well, what prices are we talking about with you and whats your gfx setup?

 

[kiddyoverclocker93]

i have a gtx 280 card...and in the future i'll do sli...maybe....so i think the 790i chipset is the best option for me..but i heard that the x48 chipset o/cing better

 

[Tatty_Two]

i have a gtx 280 card...and in the future i'll do sli...maybe....so i think the 790i chipset is the best option for me..but i heard that the x48 chipset o/cing better

Not so sure about that, as I said they are both good and TBH even if the X48 was better, it would be marginal, DaMulta has some excellent overclocks on his quad, if you really want SLI then there is only one answer, otherwise go for the Rampage, stick with the single 280 and maybe upgarde to a x2 later.

 

[kiddyoverclocker93]

i think i'll go to the striker ii

 

[voxhel]

OK, give me your last STABLE (as in Orthos stable, meaning at least 1 hour stressing CPU and RAM) speed and settings and we will go from there.....I dont think those previous speeds we acheived were Orthos tested????

ok 1h15mts 3995Mhz Orthos Stable

Overclocker Tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency: 470
PCIE Frequency: 100
FSB Strap To North Bridge: AUTO
DRAM Frequency: ~Auto 1556
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: auto

CAS Latency: 7
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 7
DRAM RAS Precharge: 7
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS TO RAS Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read To Precharge Time: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
DRAM Write Training: Disabled
MEM OC Charger: ENABLE
Ai Clock Twister: auto
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: 1.4
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.34
DRAM Voltage: 1.92
NB Voltage: 1.3
NB GTL Voltage: Auto
SB Voltage: auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: auto
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: AUTO
NB Clock Skew: AUTO

and no. with the previous speed i can Only log on and open a window or 2 but on Orthos it allways fails.

thks
vox

 

[DaMulta]

i have a gtx 280 card...and in the future i'll do sli...maybe....so i think the 790i chipset is the best option for me..but i heard that the x48 chipset o/cing better

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131274

My board is still 449.99



and with x58 just around the door......

 

[Tatty_Two]

OK, we need to take it in small steps from now on, please bare in mind that with a C1 stepping Q9550 you have already acheived what the majority have not on air, if during these small steps you get instability.....because they are small steps, it will probably be your memory that needs tweaking, the 3 things to try with your memory tweaking is to change DRAM timings to manual....... change the FSB strap from auto and change the voltage or the opposite to these if you already have an unstable setting using one of them....if that makes sense, so we will firstly try for 4.05gig.............changes in bold, as it's such a small step I am not changing memory settings apart from what I have mentioned above, I may adjust voltage, but I am working on you keeping the divider as it currently is..........

ok 1h15mts 3995Mhz Orthos Stable

Overclocker Tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency: 477
PCIE Frequency: 100
FSB Strap To North Bridge: tRY 333 FIRST, IF NOT REVERT TO AUTO
DRAM Frequency: ~PICK A DIVIDER BETWEEN 1200-1500MHZ INITIALLY, if less than 1450mhz, increase voltage to 1.94V and tighten timings to 6-6-6-18
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: auto

CAS Latency: 7
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 7
DRAM RAS Precharge: 7
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS TO RAS Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read To Precharge Time: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
DRAM Write Training: Disabled
MEM OC Charger: DISABLE
Ai Clock Twister: auto
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: 1.425
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Voltage: 1.92
NB Voltage: 1.34
NB GTL Voltage: Auto
SB Voltage: auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: auto
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: AUTO
NB Clock Skew: AUTO

Let me know how you get on!

 

[Tatty_Two]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131274

My board is still 449.99



and with x58 just around the door......

I can highly recommend my old 790 board, it did over 600FSB and is considerably cheaper.....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813141009

 

[voxhel]

OK, we need to take it in small steps from now on, please bare in mind that with a C1 stepping Q9550 you have already acheived what the majority have not on air, if during these small steps you get instability.....because they are small steps, it will probably be your memory that needs tweaking, the 3 things to try with your memory tweaking is to change DRAM timings to manual....... change the FSB strap from auto and change the voltage or the opposite to these if you already have an unstable setting using one of them....if that makes sense, so we will firstly try for 4.05gig.............changes in bold, as it's such a small step I am not changing memory settings apart from what I have mentioned above, I may adjust voltage, but I am working on you keeping the divider as it currently is..........

ok 1h15mts 3995Mhz Orthos Stable

Overclocker Tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency: 477
PCIE Frequency: 100
FSB Strap To North Bridge: tRY 333 FIRST, IF NOT REVERT TO AUTO Only Auto on 333mhz wend windows start boot crash
DRAM Frequency: ~PICK A DIVIDER BETWEEN 1200-1500MHZ INITIALLY, if less than 1450mhz, increase voltage to 1.94V and tighten timings to 6-6-6-18 i pickup the 2nd highest 1590mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto Manual ( with the timings as in the next line)

CAS Latency: 7
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 7
DRAM RAS Precharge: 7
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS TO RAS Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read To Precharge Time: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
DRAM Write Training: Disabled
MEM OC Charger: DISABLE
Ai Clock Twister: auto
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: 1.425
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Voltage: 1.92
NB Voltage: 1.34
NB GTL Voltage: Auto
SB Voltage: auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: auto
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: AUTO
NB Clock Skew: AUTO

Let me know how you get on!

Can boot to Vista. Run Orthos, first Ram after 18 secs fails, second CPU after 20mts still running!


UPDATE:

FSB Strap: auto
Dram Freq: 1431mhz FSB : DRAM = 2:3 ?? What does it meen? what do we whant to get 1:1?
Timings 6-6-6-18 at 1.94volts !
everythings the same

Othos Ram Teste Stable, runing for 30mts for now....

next step?

 

[Tatty_Two]

Can boot to Vista. Run Orthos, first Ram after 18 secs fails, second CPU after 20mts still running!


UPDATE:

FSB Strap: auto
Dram Freq: 1431mhz FSB : DRAM = 2:3 ?? What does it meen? what do we whant to get 1:1?
Timings 6-6-6-18 at 1.94volts !
everythings the same

Othos Ram Teste Stable, runing for 30mts for now....

next step?

Well done! 1:1 means that you are running your memory at the FSB speed (x4) so you can select that speed from the drop down if your set to "auto"....that is always the desired speed to run if your memory can take it......next step, be patient!

Have a play yourself now to see if you can get 4.1gig stable....you must have got the idea now.... with both CPU and memory for at least 1 hour.

 

[voxhel]

Well done! 1:1 means that you are running your memory at the FSB speed (x4) so you can select that speed from the drop down if your set to "auto"....that is always the desired speed to run if your memory can take it......next step, be patient!

Have a play yourself now to see if you can get 4.1gig stable....you must have got the idea now.... with both CPU and memory for at least 1 hour.

the only thing that comes to mind is to raise

vcore
vpll
vtt
vdimm
vnb

but i´m starting to think that i can have this speed 4054.68Mhz but with much less vcore, vpll, but at the cost of GTLs, the prob is that i have no idea how they work with this cpu, like increasse cpu gtl to decrease vcore??? increase nb gtl to decrease vnb??? in what %? 5% nb gtl = 1% vnb?

 

[DaMulta]

i have one last question..is striker II extreme supports ddr2 800?

no it's DDR3, but DDR3 is way down in price from what it was.

tf it's handing on IDE it could be just another bad board or cpu/ It's off that he has had 2 boards do that to him. I have not heard this one before.

thx man..he's mobo now working fine..he just installed a corshair ddr3 ram and his mobo it's ok...

did he try ram because of me lol

hi mann.today arrived striker ii extreme and q9650 and 4 gigs of corshair ddr3 ram 7-7-7-20 1600 1.8v..
the mobo was fine untili did a restart and then nothing..the mobo can't start..but if i remove the 8 pin(the cable connecting the psu with the mobo)the pc opens normally(without booting ofcourse)..any ideas?

You have to have the 8pin installed, it could work with the 4 pin also.(make sure your not pluging in a 8pin PCIE plug they are different)

Did you reset the cmos?

Have you tried just 1,2,3 sticks of ram?

Always run a couple of memory test with a new machine
Dos before you install windows
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
this makes a bootable CD to test memory

Always run memtest in windows on a new machine.
http://hcidesign.com/memtest/
This test will find bad ram better than the other program from MS.


pc opens normally you say? You can see the start up screen?


You really need to tell me what error codes it's sending you when it does not start. Also you can try placing the video card in different slots.


You need to update the bios ASAP, and depending on which ver you have installed you might want to reinstall windows after up update the bios(if you do it inside windows)you can do it in bios also.

I have found that auto does not also work the best with memory settings.Even the voltage sometimes it gives it to much. For 4 sticks you want to be in t2 mode(t1 could work but highly unlikely)Always run unlinked!!!

Also crucial told me that the white slots are for 2Ghz ram. I have ran it in the blue but that is what they told me. You may want to back down the speed to 1700-1900. When you do that you need to do mem test and you can also tighten up your timings for better bandwidth and speed than you can at 2ghz.

Everest will show you your bandwidth speeds that you have going on with your system.

I'm going to post this PM in the forums I would like to do it there. My PM box fills up fast, and others might need this help.

 

[kiddyoverclocker93]

the pc can't open...i reset the cmos three times and cleared the rtc ram...nothing yet..and i'm using the 8pin...any recommendations?

 

[Tatty_Two]

the only thing that comes to mind is to raise

vcore
vpll
vtt
vdimm
vnb

but i´m starting to think that i can have this speed 4054.68Mhz but with much less vcore, vpll, but at the cost of GTLs, the prob is that i have no idea how they work with this cpu, like increasse cpu gtl to decrease vcore??? increase nb gtl to decrease vnb??? in what %? 5% nb gtl = 1% vnb?

The GTL ref divider is simply your Vcore multiplied by the divider, I do not need to set the GTL references for my 4.5gig so TBH I dont think you need to, I just think that your CPU is/has reached it's max, what temps are you getting on the cores under orthos after say 10 minutes and open two instances or orthos at the same time, one purely cpu, one purely ram.

 

[DaMulta]

the pc can't open...i reset the cmos three times and cleared the rtc ram...nothing yet..and i'm using the 8pin...any recommendations?

Install one memory chip at a time, again install your asus error code LCD screen, and tell us were it is hanging.

 

[SystemViper]

HI, i just got a Q9650 and poped it in my Maximus Extreme, Made some setting changes and walla I got 4.06Ghz @ 1.312v and that is not tweaking it very much. WoW what a sweet chip I can weait to get it on a X48 with some good ram and water.


CPUz


also a screenie...

 

[Tatty_Two]

HI, i just got a Q9650 and poped it in my Maximus Extreme, Made some setting changes and walla I got 4.06Ghz @ 1.312v and that is not tweaking it very much. WoW what a sweet chip I can weait to get it on a X48 with some good ram and water.


CPUz


also a screenie...

Try and drop that Vcore if you can, I appreciate you have not tweaked yet, I run 24/7 at 4gig on just 1.26V....yes they are sweeeettt! Welcome to the world of the quad E0's.......it would seem however, surprisingly (from XS) that these babies actually overclock better on a decent P45 board than any other, either way you have some decent boards there!

 

[voxhel]

The GTL ref divider is simply your Vcore multiplied by the divider, I do not need to set the GTL references for my 4.5gig so TBH I dont think you need to, I just think that your CPU is/has reached it's max, what temps are you getting on the cores under orthos after say 10 minutes and open to instances or orthos at the same time, one purely cpu, one purely ram.

I have set FSB freq to 483 = 4105.5Mhz with Dram freq to 1453Mhz but i have Down with VCore to 1.4v. but maked gtl 0= 0.680 gtl 1=0.700.

Orthos runs CPU only for 15 mts and stoped.

temps 64-60-57-57

GTL ref ( 1.40*8.5=11.9 ???) what´s it used for? how?

 

[SystemViper]

Try and drop that Vcore if you can, I appreciate you have not tweaked yet, I run 24/7 at 4gig on just 1.26V....yes they are sweeeettt! Welcome to the world of the quad E0's.......it would seem however, surprisingly (from XS) that these babies actually overclock better on a decent P45 board than any other, either way you have some decent boards there!

I have been waiting for the Foxconn avenger to come out, a P45 that has 2 pci x16 2.0 slots so you don't loose that good crossfire, they say is should be out soon.