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QNAP Introduces New 10GbE and Thunderbolt 3 NAS TVS-x72XT Series

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QNAP Systems, Inc. today released the new TVS-x72XT NAS series, powered by 8th Gen Intel Core processors with both 10GBASE-T and Thunderbolt 3 high-bandwidth connectivity for tackling heavy workloads and smoothly transferring, displaying and editing 4K videos in real-time. By supporting M.2 PCIe NVMe SSDs and graphics cards, the TVS-x72XT series provides the ability to boost performance and create a scalable working environment for high-speed file sharing and collaboration.

The TVS-x72XT series features quality hardware and excellent performance with multiple 10GBASE-T and Thunderbolt 3 ports to provide workstations with high-capacity and high-throughput storage," said David Tsao, Product Manager of QNAP, adding "the TVS-x72XT series is also an exceptional storage base for iMac Pro users as they can flexibly choose between Thunderbolt 3 and 10GbE connections to suit their application and device needs."



The TVS-x72XT series includes models with 4, 6, and 8 drive bays, and features powerful 8th Gen Intel Core processors with AES-NI encryption and Intel UHD Graphics 630 that enables triple-channel 4K H.264 hardware decoding and real-time transcoding. Flexible PCIe expandability allows users to install an entry-level graphics card to accelerate NAS video processing and GPU computing, or a QNAP QM2 card to add M.2 SSD caching or additional 10GbE (10GBASE-T) connectivity to the NAS.

Featuring a 5-speed 10GBASE-T Multi-Gig port (10G/5G/2.5G/1G/100M) and two Thunderbolt 3 ports, the TVS-x72XT series presents an ideal collaborative 4K media editing platform for both Mac and Windows users, allowing easy sharing of large media files to improve productivity. The TVS-x72XT series also provides HDMI 2.0 output, supporting 4K (3840 x 2160) at 60Hz, providing great benefits for applications that demand on-image resolution and color realism, and allowing the direct playback of NAS-based multimedia content.

The TVS-x72XT series supports SSD caching, and provides two M.2 SSD slots for installing PCIe (Gen 3 x2) NVMe SSDs with 2280 form factors (M.2 SSDs are sold separately) for boosting IOPS-demanding applications. Users can also take advantage of software-defined SSD extra over-provisioning (between 1% and 60%) to attain optimal SSD performance and maximized SSD lifespan. Coupled with QNAP's Qtier technology that empowers the NAS with auto tiering, storage efficiency is optimized constantly across M.2 SSDs, 2.5-inch SSDs, and high-capacity HDDs with improved overall system performance and cost effectiveness.

The reliable, scalable TVS-x72XT series is an all-in-one NAS solution for file storage, backup, sharing, synchronization and centralized management. It also provides block-based snapshot protection to help users effectively mitigate the impact of ransomware, the ability to host multiple virtual machines and containerized applications, and the QVR Pro app for deploying a professional yet affordable video surveillance system (with 8 free IP camera channels, and expandable up to 128 channels with optional licenses).

Key specifications
  • TVS-472XT-PT-4G: 4-bay, Intel Pentium Gold G5400T dual-core 3.1 GHz processor, 4 GB RAM (2 GB x2)
  • TVS-672XT-i3-8G: 6-bay, Intel Core i3 8100T quad-core 3.1. GHz processor, 8 GB RAM (4 GB x2)
  • TVS-872XT-i5-16G: 8-bay, Intel Core i5 8400T 6-core 1.7 GHz processor (burst up to 3.3 GHz), 16 GB RAM (8 GB x2)
Tower model; dual-channel SODIMM DDR4 RAM (upgradable to 32 GB); hot-swappable 3.5-inch SATA 6Gbps bays; 2x M.2 2280 PCIe (Gen 3 x2, 2 GB/s) NVMe SSD slots; 2x Thunderbolt 3 ports; 1x 10GBASE-T RJ45 (10G/5G/2.5G/1G/100M) LAN port, 2x Gigabit LAN ports; 2x PCle slots (Slot 1 is pre-installed with a Thunderbolt 3 adapter); 1x HDMI 2.0 (4K@60Hz) output; 1x Type-A USB 3.0 port, 2x Type-C USB 3.1 Gen2 10Gbps ports, 2 x Type-A USB 3.1 Gen2 10Gbps ports; 1x 3.5 mm dynamic microphone jack, 1x 3.5mm line-out audio jack; 1x built-in speaker.

Availability
The TVS-x72XT NAS series is now available. For more information, visit the product page.

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Will they ever release a NAS with 2 SSD bays and 10 Gig network?
Why do we have to wait for so long?
Motherboard vendors are using 10Gbe over RJ45 for few years now. Why is everybody (NAS, Router, Switch) so slacking with this?

Well, the switch space has changed a little with NetGear, but its an overpriced switch. There is Mikrotik switch with 4 SFP+ ports costing only 120eur (compared to 230 eur for netgear switch with 1 RJ45 10gig port if i remember it correct.)

So far we only have super overpriced enterprise NAS'es with SFP+ or RJ45 network.
 

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Will they ever release a NAS with 2 SSD bays and 10 Gig network?
Why do we have to wait for so long?
Motherboard vendors are using 10Gbe over RJ45 for few years now. Why is everybody (NAS, Router, Switch) so slacking with this?

Well, the switch space has changed a little with NetGear, but its an overpriced switch. There is Mikrotik switch with 4 SFP+ ports costing only 120eur (compared to 230 eur for netgear switch with 1 RJ45 10gig port if i remember it correct.)

So far we only have super overpriced enterprise NAS'es with SFP+ or RJ45 network.
I think you will need to build your own. Use FreeNAS. Cheaper and you can spec what you want.
 
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Will they ever release a NAS with 2 SSD bays and 10 Gig network?
Why do we have to wait for so long?
Motherboard vendors are using 10Gbe over RJ45 for few years now. Why is everybody (NAS, Router, Switch) so slacking with this?

Well, the switch space has changed a little with NetGear, but its an overpriced switch. There is Mikrotik switch with 4 SFP+ ports costing only 120eur (compared to 230 eur for netgear switch with 1 RJ45 10gig port if i remember it correct.)

So far we only have super overpriced enterprise NAS'es with SFP+ or RJ45 network.
When you say 2 SSD bays are you referring to 2.5" external bays or internal NVMe bays?

Either way, QNAP has been making such NAS units with 10GbE for years. The TVS-1282 / 1282T3 line has had 10GbE and four bay 2.5" SSD support with internal dual NVMe for quite some time.

Granted its not cheap but this TVS-x72XT likely won't be cheap either.

None of these NAS units tend to be cheap even though QNAP is typically a bit cheaper for what you get compared to Synology. Synology will charge you about ~$1000 USD for an 8 bay NAS with an Atom SoC and an internal slot that lets you choose between either a 10GbE NIC or an NVMe,.....and you have to provide the add in card that lets you do it (at extra cost to you).

The Synology DSM OS is really great compared to QNAP QTS OS but not so much so that it makes up for this kind of shenanigans.

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If I were to guess, this TVS-x72XT would probably cost between ~$1500 to ~$2100 USD.
 
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Will they ever release a NAS with 2 SSD bays and 10 Gig network?
Why do we have to wait for so long?
Motherboard vendors are using 10Gbe over RJ45 for few years now. Why is everybody (NAS, Router, Switch) so slacking with this?

Well, the switch space has changed a little with NetGear, but its an overpriced switch. There is Mikrotik switch with 4 SFP+ ports costing only 120eur (compared to 230 eur for netgear switch with 1 RJ45 10gig port if i remember it correct.)

So far we only have super overpriced enterprise NAS'es with SFP+ or RJ45 network.
This thing supports SSDs: M.2 SSD Slot2 x M.2 2280 PCIe (Gen3 x2) NVMe slots
Maybe not full speed, but hey.

Unfortunately another insanely priced product from QNAP at around £2,000 for the 16GB SKU...
 

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Unfortunately another insanely priced product from QNAP at around £2,000 for the 16GB SKU...
You are paying for the software and support. If you are a small business with some data storage needs unfortunately there really isnt much out there for you off the shelf.
 
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This thing supports SSDs: M.2 SSD Slot2 x M.2 2280 PCIe (Gen3 x2) NVMe slots
Maybe not full speed, but hey.

Unfortunately another insanely priced product from QNAP at around £2,000 for the 16GB SKU...
Wow I was guessing ~$2100 USD at most. If its £2,000 then that is closer to ~$2500 USD. At that price I would much rather have the TVS-1282 without Thunderbolt support which is about ~$1850 USD and has an additional 4x 2.5" bays.

You are paying for the software and support. If you are a small business with some data storage needs unfortunately there really isnt much out there for you off the shelf.
Perhaps but I question the support component somewhat.

These NAS units aren't cheap but I don't think these companies will fall over themselves to assist with issues.

Most people would probably be better served to build their own or buying some surplus server being decommissioned.
 
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You are paying for the software and support. If you are a small business with some data storage needs unfortunately there really isnt much out there for you off the shelf.
Sure, the problem is, all the NAS vendors are pretty crap at support, trust me, I used to work for one of them and I have friends that have worked for many of the others and they're all the same. I'm not going to share the horror stories of ignorance and uninterest here, but I can tell you that these companies gives zero F's about their customers when there's a real issue. Yes, they will hand hold you setting up the hardware, configuring their programs etc. but if someone actually find a real problem that needs to be addressed, expect them to do nothing. The problem might be solved in an update, six months down the road, if you're lucky.
 
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This is what i was talking about.

All of you mention prices like 1000-2000 USD

What im talking about is the mainstream consumer market, not enterprise warehouse or whatever.

These things should not cost more than 200 eur having 2 bays and 10 GbE. Because we know that aquantia asks around 40usd for their chip alone.
But there is nothing expensive inside that case besides this 10gig chip.

A crappy super low-end cpu with crappy low end 200-300W PSU for 1000 eur, no thanks?

And yes, until they start making NAS for homeusers for the homeuser price, the DIY system is the only way to go.
However 10 gig setup is still pretty expensive even if building PC.
So thats the main question, when are we going to see 10gigs enetring mainstream market.
 
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So thats the main question, when are we going to see 10gigs enetring mainstream market.
I believe 10Gb will enter the mainstream when carriers start using home gateways with multi-gig capabilities -- "the switch" used in the majority of homes.

The path to that has just started in Japan with a carrier offering the NEC BL1000HW with 10Gb WAN and a single 10Gb LAN port along with three 1Gb LAN ports. More equipment is needed to network more than one 10Gb device so that's why I don't see it as the actual start of mainstream 10Gb.

Broadly speaking, equipment manufacturers have only gone through one or two product cycles and they're still entering markets above SOHO. That's a place where it needs to get to before we start seeing prices that low.
 
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Sure, the problem is, all the NAS vendors are pretty crap at support, trust me, I used to work for one of them and I have friends that have worked for many of the others and they're all the same. I'm not going to share the horror stories of ignorance and uninterest here, but I can tell you that these companies gives zero F's about their customers when there's a real issue. Yes, they will hand hold you setting up the hardware, configuring their programs etc. but if someone actually find a real problem that needs to be addressed, expect them to do nothing. The problem might be solved in an update, six months down the road, if you're lucky.

Quite right,...

As an example, Synology simply extended their warranty another year as a so called adequate remedy to address the Intel Atom C2000 series SoC AVR54 errata that was bricking their units. Cisco on the other hand, initiated a recalled on their effected products.

You see, one company built up a name and is keenly interested in protecting its share of the market by taking no chances. They actually proactively attempted to protect their customers from failures before such failures could occur.

The other company wants to gamble and try to run out the clock on warranty responsibilities for a hardware flaw that will almost certainly manifest in due time.

These NAS companies don't care and you most certainly are NOT paying more for a NAS in order to get good support. The price of a NAS is the price because that is what they want to charge you. You aren't getting anything extra that you can't see.
 
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