Quest 2 who's buying it?

[Mindweaver]

no i'll never buy a VR Headset again.
it's a huge waste of money for what you acutally get with the current games.

I don't know buddy. I think there is a lot of really cool stuff coming soon.

Completely off topic here, but WTH.

From a simple experience point of view yeah I agree with you. If you are just there to experience a narrative passively, then yes there is currently very limited story driven VR content available. Cost of development, relatively small market and etc.

From a content creation / productivity tool point of view I cannot agree with you. I was by no means a 3D / VR artist. But I like creating and taking my work for illustration in VR. Sure I love myself a well constructed passive VR experience. However I find creating VR content yourself is way more satisfying then just sit back and have content feed to you. For me, VR is another machine-human interface just like a monitor, a keyboard, a mouse and a pair of headphone all rolled into one. Heck not just me, my 5yrs old daughter does her doodling in VR on a daily basis and her spatial drawing skills is already way better than mine. Here is one of her drawings in tilt brush

Different people have different mentality and expectations. Some likes passively being entertained, some likes actively entertain themselves. Maybe try observing things in a different perspective.

Yeah, Tilt brush is amazing. I still think there is a huge market for stuff like Henry. I like all of the Google Spotlight stuff as well. I think VR theme parks could be big. I'd love to have a Disney VR theme park to visit. Of course, I don't think it would replace the current theme parks but it would be great for people that may never get the chance to go. I live somewhat close to Disney World.

Yeah, Assassin's Creed VR, Splinter Cell VR, Population One, Warhammer 40K, and more,....

Have you seen Star Wars Tales from the Galaxy's Edge? This looks really good.

 

[Octavean]

I don't know buddy. I think there is a lot of really cool stuff coming soon.


Yeah, Tilt brush is amazing. I still think there is a huge market for stuff like Henry. I like all of the Google Spotlight stuff as well. I think VR theme parks could be big. I'd love to have a Disney VR theme park to visit. Of course, I don't think it would replace the current theme parks but it would be great for people that may never get the chance to go. I live somewhat close to Disney World.


Have you seen Star Wars Tales from the Galaxy's Edge? This looks really good.

Yeah, I did see the SW: Tails From The Galaxy's Edge trailer and it does look good IMO, although, I suspect it will be short just like the other three Oculus SW experiences. Still fun though.

 

[Mindweaver]

Yeah, I did see the SW: Tails From The Galaxy's Edge trailer and it does look good IMO, although, I suspect it will be short just like the other three Oculus SW experiences. Still fun though.

Yea, the Vader Immortal series was great and I hope this has more in terms of replayability. I'm looking forward to it. I'm ready for any new content.. lol I have noticed a drop in users in Big Screen probably due to people trying to sell their Go's and Quests before Quest 2. Hopefully, there will be a big jump in users. I don't know FB is really pushing Horizons and have already told the Big Screen dev's to join them or be swallowed up by them. I don't remember the word for word but that's pretty close.

 

[Octavean]

Yea, the Vader Immortal series was great and I hope this has more in terms of replayability. I'm looking forward to it. I'm ready for any new content.. lol I have noticed a drop in users in Big Screen probably due to people trying to sell their Go's and Quests before Quest 2. Hopefully, there will be a big jump in users. I don't know FB is really pushing Horizons and have already told the Big Screen dev's to join them or be swallowed up by them. I don't remember the word for word but that's pretty close.

I still have my original Oculus Rift CV1 and Touch controllers, decommissioned in its original packaging. I don't much see the point in trying to resell such things. It's a bit of a collectors item to me and has some sentimental value just like my old Sega genesis, Atari 2600, Colecovision and more.

I can see how some people might have sold their Oculus Quest v1 units when stock was poor and before the Oculus Quest 2 announcement but not sure how they could sell anywhere near what they paid for it now. Still I am happy to hold onto my current Oculus Quest now for the same reasons I held onto the Rift.

Not really interested in FB Horizons but that is just me.

 

[xkm1948]

Are we 100% sure there will be a wireless way to link PC to Oculus Quest 2? Or at least 90Hz for PCLinked Oculus Quest 2? This is my major concern now. I dont want a downgrade in refresh rate.

 

[Octavean]

Are we 100% sure there will be a wireless way to link PC to Oculus Quest 2? Or at least 90Hz for PCLinked Oculus Quest 2? This is my major concern now. I dont want a downgrade in refresh rate.

I think they already announced incoming 90Hz support and that Oculus Link is coing out of beta. Wireless has been talked about but has been said to be not ready.

Since there is no official Wireless support one shouldn't allow it to influence their buying decision. If I hear a go on Wireless I'll probably jump on it but I still want to buy a PS5 (with optical drive) and perhaps a new 10GbE switch and WiFi 6 Router so I'm in no rush to buy the Quest 2 currently,...

Edit:

People can still use Virtual Desktop for the time being though,....

 

[xkm1948]

Hmm. I do have a WiFi6 router ASUS AX11000, also just upgraded my NIC to Intel WIFi6 AX200. Man I just wish there is a more elegant way of enabling full on wireless PCVR.

Interersted to buy, but for now the Oculus tech is still not mature enough for me to justify a new headset. Also there is a very good chance that my daughter will ends up hogging it

 

[Mindweaver]

I still have my original Oculus Rift CV1 and Touch controllers, decommissioned in its original packaging. I don't much see the point in trying to resell such things. It's a bit of a collectors item to me and has some sentimental value just like my old Sega genesis, Atari 2600, Colecovision and more.

I can see how some people might have sold their Oculus Quest v1 units when stock was poor and before the Oculus Quest 2 announcement but not sure how they could sell anywhere near what they paid for it now. Still I am happy to hold onto my current Oculus Quest now for the same reasons I held onto the Rift.

Not really interested in FB Horizons but that is just me.

I still have my Dk1, Vive, Rift S, Gear VR and soon Quest 2.

Are we 100% sure there will be a wireless way to link PC to Oculus Quest 2? Or at least 90Hz for PCLinked Oculus Quest 2? This is my major concern now. I dont want a downgrade in refresh rate.

Yeah, Virtual Reality Oasis Mike has already said that wireless using Virtual Desktop with 90hz is better than Rift S. Check out the Video.

 

[xkm1948]

The PCVR is like choose 2 out of 3 :

1. High resolution
2. High refresh rate + low latency
3. Wireless

Quest 2: 1 +3
Index: 1+2
HP Reverb G2: 1+2

I thought Valve was working on some Index Wireless adapters? After viewing the text clarity comparison of Reverb G2 versus Index and Quest 2, I cant say for sure I still likes Quest 2.

 

[Mindweaver]

The PCVR is like choose 2 out of 3 :

1. High resolution
2. High refresh rate + low latency
3. Wireless

Quest 2: 1 +3
Index: 1+2
HP Reverb G2: 1+2

I thought Valve was working on some Index Wireless adapters? After viewing the text clarity comparison of Reverb G2 versus Index and Quest 2, I cant say for sure I still likes Quest 2.

You have to remember that it's not using the new wifi 6 and even link is still in beta. It's still the old method used with the og Quest. It doesn't look as good due to the compression method. It's only going to get better. I'd put high refresh rate on Quest 2 as well. It's only 72hz right now using link but it will be 90hz soon. Virtual Desktop has it working 90hz wirelessly. Plus, John Carmack has already confirmed that it can do 120hz.

EDIT: Yeah Gabe has said they are working on wireless.

 

[Mindweaver]

I keep hearing a lot of great things about using Quest 2 wirelessly with Virtual Desktop. A lot of people are reporting that it's better than using Link tethered. It's pretty crazy a 3rd party dev has got wireless working with 90hz better than Oculus with it's on cable. Oculus still has Link running 72hz.. Some dev's are hinting at a dedicated wireless dongle is what Oculus is working on which would be awesome, but let us use our wireless network until it's ready.

 

[xkm1948]

I keep hearing a lot of great things about using Quest 2 wirelessly with Virtual Desktop. A lot of people are reporting that it's better than using Link tethered. It's pretty crazy a 3rd party dev has got wireless working with 90hz better than Oculus with it's on cable. Oculus still has Link running 72hz.. Some dev's are hinting at a dedicated wireless dongle is what Oculus is working on which would be awesome, but let us use our wireless network until it's ready.

Latency is a big problem though using virtual desktop. You need a good WiFi6 router and your PC better connect to the router using Ethernet

Dedicated wireless interface would be amazing

 

[Mindweaver]

Latency is a big problem though using virtual desktop. You need a good WiFi6 router and your PC better connect to the router using Ethernet

Dedicated wireless interface would be amazing

That's the thing though they are not even taking advantage of Wifi 6. Guy Godin has confirmed that Virtual Desktop is only using 150 Mbps. I've been wondering about how well my mesh system would work and someone reported this morning that they are using a wireless mesh system where the router is 2 rooms away from their computer and it works great. I have a Netgear Orbi ac2200 system router and satellite combo. I need to upgrade my wireless adapter. I am thinking of getting a PCIe adapter. Just not sure which one I want to get that will work the best and be future proof. I do agree that a dedicated wireless interface would be amazing!

Guy Godin's link to tweet

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1310710266301042688

 

[INSTG8R]

I was curious until I saw the price...the Pimax 5K is actually the cheapest one available to me. I would still probably spend my money on the Vive Pro for slightly more.

 

[xtreemchaos]

im sticking with the rift for now.

100 Hours of Gameplay i

bro you must be playing in sissy mode ive more hours on one game but with plenty of mods applyed.

 

[Mindweaver]

im sticking with the rift for now.

bro you must be playing in sissy mode ive more hours on one game but with plenty of mods applyed.
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FO4VR is amazing with mods! I need to start back playing it. I can't wait to try it out on the Quest 2 with Virtual Desktop and Sidequest. Sidequest has a pretty big library of games like Half-Life, Wolfenstein, Quake, and soon Doom 3.

 

[xtreemchaos]

yes agreed, ive got the mod which if you look at something the wrong way it kills ya in fo4vr. halflife-Alyx has some good mod maps to look out for, im nearly got 500 hours in skyrim VR too, ive loads of time on my hands since retiring.
let me know if you would like a list of my fallout4vr mods im using buddy.