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I wish I could block you, cdawall


Seriously ton's of people are nice enough to answer your repetitive and ridiculous questions try some google mixed with a little common sense.
 

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From what I have ready, Ivy Bridge runs hotter, and you should not even consider overclocking without some serious cooling. Like, spend at very least a couple hundred of dollars on cooling.

So in this case, say you had a 3770K and you wanted to overclock. You would need to spend another say $300 on cooling or risk permanently damaging the card from overheating.

In the alternative scenario, consider Sandy Bridge. Since it runs cooler, you could safely overclock quite a bit with at most a $40 fan cooler like this: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Contin...

Now let's look at overall costs:

2600K: $320 (new) + $35 cooler
= $355 total

3770K: $320 (new) + $300 to $600 in cooling
= $620 to $920 total

Benchmarks rate the 3770K to perform somewhere around 3% to 7% better than the 2600K. But if these prices and analysis are correct, then by overclocking, the 2600K could way surpass the 3770K at the same cost, considering cooling.

So, for you experts, what do you think about this? Do you have anything to add or clarify?
Perhaps you can shed some light on this issue?
You won't get any serious overclocking with a 212+ on a 2600K
 
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The most expensive(powerful) cards require the most bandwidth, for slower cards the difference would smaller or there would be no difference between 8x to 16x at all.


There is very little difference if any at 8x or 16x even in PCIE 3.0 even with high end cards BTW.
 

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From what I have ready, Ivy Bridge runs hotter, and you should not even consider overclocking without some serious cooling. Like, spend at very least a couple hundred of dollars on cooling.
http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g30/c83/s137/list/p1/Liquid_Cooling-Water_Cooling_Kits_Cases-Water_Cooling_Kits-Page1.html

Choose a good kit. I did I have had liquid cooling for 5 years now and love it. Just remember it is fun and takes time. There are tons of threads on this hereon how to setup and test and I suggest you read them.

Please take a chill pill too. cdawall is a very smart person and has helped me more times than I can count so please be respectful to every one here or you will end up not getting any one to help you ever again.
 

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There is an ignore list in your userCP, go in and make it happen!
I have two names I made happen today :D Most informative post in this thread.
 
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http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g30/c83/s137/list/p1/Liquid_Cooling-Water_Cooling_Kits_Cases-Water_Cooling_Kits-Page1.html

Choose a good kit. I did I have had liquid cooling for 5 years now and love it. Just remember it is fun and takes time. There are tons of threads on this hereon how to setup and test and I suggest you read them.

Please take a chill pill too. cdawall is a very smart person and has helped me more times than I can count so please be respectful to every one here or you will end up not getting any one to help you ever again.
Thanks. Expensive, but can I buy that $220 water cooler and then remove all my fans and have a silent PC? Curious. If so then I will most likely do this in the near future.
 

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hey, vawrvawerawe, wasnt your stuff supposed to have arrived by now? where is the build thread ?
 

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Thanks. Expensive, but can I buy that $220 water cooler and then remove all my fans and have a silent PC? Curious. If so then I will most likely do this in the near future.
removing fans from a liquid cooled setup costing $220 is silly D:
for 3770k i think most people are running a H80/H100 or something near identical for their cpu, and achieve wonderful clocks with such a cooler, and it really isnt that expensive. You'll probably find overclocking isnt that hard when it comes to temperature nowadays for 24/7 pc use, as the high end aftermarket coolers look after the cpu quite well. More of it is down to your skill on a well made OC'ing motherboard, and getting lucky with a golden chip.
Take for example my setup, I cannot get to 5Ghz like a fair few others can, and my cpu runs 10 degrees below the recommended top temperature.
 
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I'm so confused. He has such a nice computer yet knows little to nothing about computers. Little to nothing in the sense of comparison to tpu members of course.

Since when did it cost 600-900$ to cool a 3770k.
 

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I'm so confused. He has such a nice computer yet knows little to nothing about computers. Little to nothing in the sense of comparison to tpu members of course.

Since when did it cost 600-900$ to cool a 3770k.
i dont think he has it yet, just ordered the part? :confused:
 

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na he ordered it a week ago, he said he would receive the case tomorrow. and he said that a week ago :p
 

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na he ordered it a week ago, he said he would receive the case tomorrow. and he said that a week ago :p
when i order parts i pay for next day delivery and regardless of how many different warehouses they have to source from, they all come together next day! maybe his postal service/supplier sucks? :rolleyes:
 

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na he ordered it a week ago, he said he would receive the case tomorrow. and he said that a week ago :p
:shadedshu
I share our mutual dissatisfaction.

Let's sing a song! (I made an adaptation or two.)

Ohhhhhhhh.....

These threads just never end.
They go on and on my friends.
vawrvawerawe started posting it not knowing what it was,
And he will continue posting it forever just because.....

-- Repeat --
when i order parts i pay for next day delivery and regardless of how many different warehouses they have to source from, they all come together next day! maybe his postal service/supplier sucks? :rolleyes:
I only do when the cost of overnight is significantly less than what I am paying already. My last upgraded costed 1720 USD and I got overnight for 80 USD. 80 USD isn't worth it if you only spent 300 USD but if I'm already spending over a thousand, it's a drop in the pool.
 
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when i order parts i pay for next day delivery and regardless of how many different warehouses they have to source from, they all come together next day! maybe his postal service/supplier sucks? :rolleyes:
or maybe he is a fake. :p :roll:
i bet he is some 12 year old who just got himself a pc and a net connection. and before this he used to be a console kid.
 
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Ok, back to the question of overclocking.

Last week, my sparkly new 3570k got to 4.7 Ghz on a $39 cooler, running Prime95 overnight with no problems. Here's the dramatic thread :) :

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175725
right ,as long as you don't try extreme OC with IB a good air cooled HS like 212 evo should give good 4.5-4.7 w/o going over 80c or so, of course will depend on chip and how good IHS was installed .

Something like H100 will give tiny bit more head room and maybe slightly less voltage needed but it won't be earth shattering .
 
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I'm just wondering (or hoping) there is enough common sense from you regular TPU guys to leave this thread alone and help more needing and deserving people with their posts as I'm sure they need assistance more than this guy needs to troll for stuff Google can answer(and mainly ignore advice given when he gets it, insisting he can prove it wrong), taking both your time and teh LULZ in the process.

He got his question answered to the fullest of the ability of any one here (a question he could of asked in one of his other 3829747392 threads) and at this point its just backwards and forwards "brown noise" chat, to be honest.


Nothing to see here...

Let it die and help someone else, TPU regulars?? :toast:





And yes, a 3x70k will overclock just fine on mid-end air cooling.... and yes, the better the cooling the better the overclocking headroom you'll have.
No, you don't need to spend $489 on liquid to overclock to high 4's and no, I don't have anything more to add than thread other than what has already been stated by the fine people here.... 383 times since you joined.


Be gone now.

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Cdwall is not a bad guy but at times goes overboard...;)
I agree. He gave some good info before posting uselessness.

Just unsubscribe if you don't want to continue posting here. Best of luck.
Personally I am enjoying the thread and how many people are giving good information.

right ,as long as you don't try extreme OC with IB a good air cooled HS like 212 evo should give good 4.5-4.7 w/o going over 80c or so, of course will depend on chip and how good IHS was installed .

Something like H100 will give tiny bit more head room and maybe slightly less voltage needed but it won't be earth shattering .
Will H100 be much more (significantly) quieter though?
 

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You won't get any serious overclocking with a 212+ on a 2600K
No you won't but you don't need to OC a 2600k/3770k either. They are plenty fast enough at stock.

@vaw

cdawall is really a great guy, you just gotta take some criticism, It's his normal joking. I've come accustomed to it. :p @ cdawall
 

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cdawall is really a great guy, you just gotta take some criticism, It's his normal joking. I've come accustomed to it. @ cdawall
Are you sure it isn't more basic than that?
 

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I feel like half this guys questions that he makes threads about can be asked and researched on google(What my co workers at microsoft always say. GOOGLE IT). I also find his threads to last way longer then they should, either by people commenting about his nonscense or him asking the same question that was answered number of times before.
 
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