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Why do people almost always buy 850 evo and 970 evo for the same computer?
 
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nvme for OS,sata for games.
doesn't matter much tbh,you'd get the same perceptible performance running both off the same sata ssd.nvme is placebo for home users only thing it really does faster is moving files.it saves physical space in your pc too.
 
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some mobo doesn't support NVMe? like some cheaper laptops.
 
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nvme for OS,sata for games.
doesn't matter much tbh,you'd get the same perceptible performance running both off the same sata ssd.nvme is placebo for home users only thing it really does faster is moving files.it saves physical space in your pc too.
Gotcha, ty for the info, as far as I know, sata is slower than NVMe, so why would nvme be for OS and sata for games :-?
 
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Gotcha, ty for the info, as far as I know, sata is slower than NVMe, so why would nvme be for OS and sata for games :-?
Because NVMe drives are actually faster and it's noticeable for the OS and for certain programs. I have a second NVMe drive for games, as well as an older SATA drive for games.
 
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Gotcha, ty for the info, as far as I know, sata is slower than NVMe, so why would nvme be for OS and sata for games :-?
m.2/sata is cheaper and nmve doesn't increase FPS only load time

for me i use nvme for the games i usually play frequently and sata for game archived.
 
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Thx for the answers, may I ask, what's a good pc software to check the speed and health of a storage drive?
 
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I personally have two NVME drives and a SATA SSD. One NVME is for the OS, the other is for my games. The SATA SSD is where I offload my Documents, Pictures, Video, and Download folders to. This way if my OS were to crash, I wouldnt lose anything in those folders as they are stored on a separate drive.

Thx for the answers, may I ask, what's a good pc software to check the speed and health of a storage drive?
CrystalDiskInfo for health and CrystalDiskMark for speed.
 
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Gotcha, ty for the info, as far as I know, sata is slower than NVMe, so why would nvme be for OS and sata for games :-?
look up youtube videos,take the crappiest sata ssd and the best nvme and the differences in load times are within a couple percent.
nvme can handle more iops so it's better for system theoretically,but like I said,a home user will find it hard to notice any difference.
 
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Thx for the answers, may I ask, what's a good pc software to check the speed and health of a storage drive?
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Tested it, I have 3, two at 100% and on is at 67% health, this is the sata ssd.
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mx500 250 should be at 86% after 14tb (it's a made up number anyway)
did you set up overprovisioning ?
 
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What is overprovisioning?
unused space

SSD overprovisioning can increase the endurance of a solid state drive by distributing the total number of writes and erases across a larger population of NAND flash blocks and pages over time. It can also improve performance by giving the flash controller additional buffer space for managing program/erase (P/E) cycles and improving the probability that a write operation will have immediate access to a pre-erased block. The extra capacity is not visible to the host as available storage.
 
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I have no clue on how to do any of the things you mentioned.
 
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samsung has a utility for that,but you can do the same in disk management.

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I'm sitting in disk management but I do not know how to distribute the total number of writes and erases across a larger population of NAND flash blocks and pages over time. i don't even know what nand, blocks and pages are.
 
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to set up overprovisioning just use shrink volume,10% is the recommended value.
it's not mandatory but it is recommended.
 
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Like this ?
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so why would nvme be for OS and sata for games :-?
if you are running a newer Motherboard, its thought running the OS on a NvMe allows the system to perform as fast as technology (or your wallet) will allow.
i recently switched my OS from a 850Evo to a 970Evo, i havent noticed any significant changes outside of file transfers. im certain there IS a difference, just not noticeable in most applications.


on the same topic, but separate from this matter, i have always wondered, why are 850 EVO's more expensive than the newer variants? its weird. its been like that for years

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i recently switched my OS from a 850Evo to a 970Evo, i havent noticed any significant changes outside of file transfers. im certain there IS a difference, just not noticeable in most applications.
exactly.
depends on your testing methodology.
nvme has perks such as saving space and blazing fast sequential speeds,on the other hand it costs more,doesn't really show any noticeable benefit for a home user and tends to run way hotter than sata ssds.

I'd much,much rather replace my spinners with sata ssds than chase pcie 4.0 speeds on nvme.And it's what every home user should do as well.

on the same topic, but separate from this matter, i have always wondered, why are 850 EVO's more expensive than the newer variants? its weird. its been like that for years

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qvo is qlc man,those drives drop into hdd zone when their cache is full
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I have 860 evo 500 and it's still able to maintain 300mb/s when almost full.not the best,but still way more than qlc.m9pey on pci-e with 64l bics is actually about the same,850 pro's do about 240mb/s,adata's drives are pure shit when it comes to nand speed alone,both tlc and mlc can drop below 100mb/s cause they're using micron's tlc (avoid).they do,however,feature very efficient caching.if you don't fill them up to the max they'll be as fast as samsungs at lower price.
 
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qvo is qlc man,those drives drop into hdd zone when their cache is full
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Recently i replaced my hdds to new ones with 256MB cache and while copying data onto them they were writing at 180MB/s sometimes topping at 200+ MB/s so QLC is worse than decent hdd.
 
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