• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Racing games increase likeliness of destructive driving decisions in the real world

RickyG512

New Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2005
Messages
477 (0.07/day)
Location
Croydon, England
Processor E6600 @ 3.4ghz 60 degree load stock HSF 1.5v
Motherboard P5B vanilla 0806
Cooling All stock
Memory 2x 1GB geil @ DDR-2 850 4-5-5-12(7100 sis mem bench)
Video Card(s) Powercolour X1900XT 512MB 681/792
Storage c:250gb 16mb 7k2 d:320gb 16mb 7k2 both WD and Sata-II
Display(s) Acer 19" 8ms widescreen 1440x900
Case Thermaltake skull
Audio Device(s) X-Fi eXtreme music
Power Supply Enermax 620 liberty
Software xp pro sp2
i heard u cant do a push-start or something-start with automatics coz u cant put it in 2nd gear or something like that
 
Joined
Sep 9, 2006
Messages
994 (0.16/day)
Location
SoCal
Processor Intel C2D E6420 (3.2 gHz @ 1.365v)
Motherboard Gigabyte 965P-DS3
Cooling Zalman CNPS9500 LED
Memory 4 x 512mb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 667
Video Card(s) Visiontek HD 4870 512mb
Storage 200gb Maxtor SATA, 400gb WD SATA
Audio Device(s) Audigy 2 ZS
Software Windows XP Pro SP2
These studies really annoy me. Like those other "studies" that have "proven" that playing games like GTA will lead to more violent behavior. It's true that games like GTA and racing simulators *might* increase the likelihood of behaving in a dangerous way, it usually does not. IMO, parents play the biggest role in both situations; if the parent does not allow the child to drive dangerously when he/she first starts to drive, then the child would be more likely to drive sanely. Likewise, if parents teach children that guns are not toys, and teach them to respect guns as well as other living things, they will be far less likely to go on a shooting rampage.

I don't know about anyone else but I know for sure that my kids will learn to respect guns (so they won't hurt themselves), respect others (so they'll get into conflicts less often), and to drive safely.
 

Completely Bonkers

New Member
Joined
Feb 6, 2007
Messages
2,576 (0.41/day)
Processor Mysterious Engineering Prototype
Motherboard Intel 865
Cooling Custom block made in workshop
Memory Corsair XMS 2GB
Video Card(s) FireGL X3-256
Display(s) 1600x1200 SyncMaster x 2 = 3200x1200
Software Windows 2003
@anticlutch,

while i do not disagree that GOOD PARENTING is the major factor in child development... take 90% of teenagers... and remove the parent influence... and you say these games have NO IMPACT on the kids? Nope. Cannot agree with you.

And, as we all know, in the modern family, parents and children spend ever less time together... and kids have less respect for adults (whether teachers, parents, or strangers)... which all adds up to the fact that the modern teenager (on average) is less likely to be WELL PARENTED (whatever that means!)
 

Solaris17

Super Dainty Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Aug 16, 2005
Messages
25,774 (3.79/day)
Location
Alabama
System Name Rocinante
Processor I9 14900KS
Motherboard EVGA z690 Dark KINGPIN (modded BIOS)
Cooling EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB
Memory 64GB Gskill Trident Z5 DDR5 6000 @6400
Video Card(s) MSI SUPRIM Liquid X 4090
Storage 1x 500GB 980 Pro | 1x 1TB 980 Pro | 1x 8TB Corsair MP400
Display(s) Odyssey OLED G9 G95SC
Case Lian Li o11 Evo Dynamic White
Audio Device(s) Moondrop S8's on Schiit Hel 2e
Power Supply Bequiet! Power Pro 12 1500w
Mouse Lamzu Atlantis mini (White)
Keyboard Monsgeek M3 Lavender, Akko Crystal Blues
VR HMD Quest 3
Software Windows 11
Benchmark Scores I dont have time for that.
lol i really disagree with the title but i own a 90 integra 5 speed stick with a b18 engine id lie if i said i didnt have fun in the snow or drifted my street in the summer just because i was 4 days away from buying new tires ;)

i mean im all for safe driving but seriously 3rd clutch e-brake riding riding e-brake 2nd clutch out gas....ya sooooo fun. tehe
 
Joined
Sep 9, 2006
Messages
994 (0.16/day)
Location
SoCal
Processor Intel C2D E6420 (3.2 gHz @ 1.365v)
Motherboard Gigabyte 965P-DS3
Cooling Zalman CNPS9500 LED
Memory 4 x 512mb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 667
Video Card(s) Visiontek HD 4870 512mb
Storage 200gb Maxtor SATA, 400gb WD SATA
Audio Device(s) Audigy 2 ZS
Software Windows XP Pro SP2
@Bonkers
That's too bad then. At 17, I play many racing/violent video games and I've been driving for about a year and a half and I haven't got into an accident nor have I recieved a ticket/citation of any kind. My parents taught me to drive safely, which I do for the most part (I do speed once in a while if someone gets on my nerves.. but who doesn't?). And I'm also fortunate to have a cousin who owns quite a few guns and taught me how to shoot them (which is great fun :D).

I don't mean to be racist or anything, but I think that the second part of your reply generally applies to Caucasian and black households; in Asian households (much like my own), as well as Hispanic, it tends to be very family-oriented. And although parents of all ethnicities teach their children to be respectful of adults, it, in my experience, is most visible in Asian household. Children from Korea, China, Japan, and Taiwan (there may be others as well) are taught from an early age to bow when greeting adults, to talk in a respectful manner, etc.

Do take note that my statements were generalized; they are in no way meant to be applicable to everyone. The statements are merely from what I've seen/experienced, as I am fortunate to have friends from a variety of different ethnicities.

As a side note: some of these games have an ESRB rating for a reason. I don't get why parents buy a M rated game (for those of you who do not live in the U.S., M rated games are for people 17 and above) and give it to a 9 year old. Games like Counter-Strike should not be given to younger children for both the well being of the child, as well as the other players who have to put up with the incessant screaming and whiny voice of the child. My guess is that these types of children are the only types included in the "studies" which makes the outcome seem horrible :shadedshu
 
Last edited:

Wile E

Power User
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Messages
24,318 (3.81/day)
System Name The ClusterF**k
Processor 980X @ 4Ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 BIOS F12
Cooling MCR-320, DDC-1 pump w/Bitspower res top (1/2" fittings), Koolance CPU-360
Memory 3x2GB Mushkin Redlines 1600Mhz 6-8-6-24 1T
Video Card(s) Evga GTX 580
Storage Corsair Neutron GTX 240GB, 2xSeagate 320GB RAID0; 2xSeagate 3TB; 2xSamsung 2TB; Samsung 1.5TB
Display(s) HP LP2475w 24" 1920x1200 IPS
Case Technofront Bench Station
Audio Device(s) Auzentech X-Fi Forte into Onkyo SR606 and Polk TSi200's + RM6750
Power Supply ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W
Software Win7 Ultimate N x64, OSX 10.8.4
lol i really disagree with the title but i own a 90 integra 5 speed stick with a b18 engine id lie if i said i didnt have fun in the snow or drifted my street in the summer just because i was 4 days away from buying new tires ;)

i mean im all for safe driving but seriously 3rd clutch e-brake riding riding e-brake 2nd clutch out gas....ya sooooo fun. tehe
FWD burnouts, ftw? lol
 

Completely Bonkers

New Member
Joined
Feb 6, 2007
Messages
2,576 (0.41/day)
Processor Mysterious Engineering Prototype
Motherboard Intel 865
Cooling Custom block made in workshop
Memory Corsair XMS 2GB
Video Card(s) FireGL X3-256
Display(s) 1600x1200 SyncMaster x 2 = 3200x1200
Software Windows 2003
@anticlutch,

I have to agree with your there... about cultural differences with family. I have spent a lot of time in asia and can say there is a WORLD difference between asian and "contemporary" european caucasian family behaviour. Also within Europe there are big differences, from country to country, from class to class, from family to family, from person to person.

But, remove the positive effects of good parenting, and imagine if it didnt exist. (Perhaps an extreme, but ever more common "to some degree" in some sectors of society). What then? Remember that these observations in the research study are not based on your family. Dont take things personally. Remember that this research is trying to identify issues that are relevant to general public policy. Not every family is like yours (or mine). Not everyone has an IQ > 100. In fact, more than 50% dont. LOL.
 

hat

Enthusiast
Joined
Nov 20, 2006
Messages
21,731 (3.43/day)
Location
Ohio
System Name Starlifter :: Dragonfly
Processor i7 2600k 4.4GHz :: i5 10400
Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Pro :: ASUS Prime H570-Plus
Cooling Cryorig M9 :: Stock
Memory 4x4GB DDR3 2133 :: 2x8GB DDR4 2400
Video Card(s) PNY GTX1070 :: Integrated UHD 630
Storage Crucial MX500 1TB, 2x1TB Seagate RAID 0 :: Mushkin Enhanced 60GB SSD, 3x4TB Seagate HDD RAID5
Display(s) Onn 165hz 1080p :: Acer 1080p
Case Antec SOHO 1030B :: Old White Full Tower
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro - Bose Companion 2 Series III :: None
Power Supply FSP Hydro GE 550w :: EVGA Supernova 550
Software Windows 10 Pro - Plex Server on Dragonfly
Benchmark Scores >9000
i dont play racing games :D
I do play twisted metal though
 
Joined
Sep 9, 2006
Messages
994 (0.16/day)
Location
SoCal
Processor Intel C2D E6420 (3.2 gHz @ 1.365v)
Motherboard Gigabyte 965P-DS3
Cooling Zalman CNPS9500 LED
Memory 4 x 512mb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 667
Video Card(s) Visiontek HD 4870 512mb
Storage 200gb Maxtor SATA, 400gb WD SATA
Audio Device(s) Audigy 2 ZS
Software Windows XP Pro SP2
That's the thing that ticks me off though. These "studies" are only used by the 'haters' in order to justify pulling great games off the shelves, or putting an absurd rating on them. Like that one case with Rockstar... a grandmother bought her grandson GTA:SA and later tried to sue Rockstar because she found out that he had applied the "Hot coffee patch" and saw animated sex scenes. If she had not given him a game that was not appropriate for his age ratings, he would not have been able to apply the patch. IMO, lawsuits where parents buy a game that is rated above what their child's age is should be thrown out immediately.
 

zekrahminator

McLovin
Joined
Jan 29, 2006
Messages
9,066 (1.37/day)
Location
My house.
Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane @ 2.8GHz (224x12.5, 1.425V)
Motherboard Gigabyte sumthin-or-another, it's got an nForce 430
Cooling Dual 120mm case fans front/rear, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro, Zalman VF-900 on GPU
Memory 2GB G.Skill DDR2 800
Video Card(s) Sapphire X850XT @ 580/600
Storage WD 160 GB SATA hard drive.
Display(s) Hanns G 19" widescreen, 5ms response time, 1440x900
Case Thermaltake Soprano (black with side window).
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Live! 24 bit (paired with X-530 speakers).
Power Supply ThermalTake 430W TR2
Software XP Home SP2, can't wait for Vista SP1.
Let's not get into an argument guys.

I improved my driving-in-the-crap-that-looks-like-snow skills...in a stick shift :).
And no you can't push-start an automatic, you need to rely on your friends to have jumper cables :p.
 
Joined
Sep 9, 2006
Messages
994 (0.16/day)
Location
SoCal
Processor Intel C2D E6420 (3.2 gHz @ 1.365v)
Motherboard Gigabyte 965P-DS3
Cooling Zalman CNPS9500 LED
Memory 4 x 512mb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 667
Video Card(s) Visiontek HD 4870 512mb
Storage 200gb Maxtor SATA, 400gb WD SATA
Audio Device(s) Audigy 2 ZS
Software Windows XP Pro SP2
Lol, there's no arguement here zek... Bonkers seems to be on my side :p

I was just ranting at the general stupidity of the population, as well as the stupidity of these so called "studies". :|
 

zekrahminator

McLovin
Joined
Jan 29, 2006
Messages
9,066 (1.37/day)
Location
My house.
Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane @ 2.8GHz (224x12.5, 1.425V)
Motherboard Gigabyte sumthin-or-another, it's got an nForce 430
Cooling Dual 120mm case fans front/rear, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro, Zalman VF-900 on GPU
Memory 2GB G.Skill DDR2 800
Video Card(s) Sapphire X850XT @ 580/600
Storage WD 160 GB SATA hard drive.
Display(s) Hanns G 19" widescreen, 5ms response time, 1440x900
Case Thermaltake Soprano (black with side window).
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Live! 24 bit (paired with X-530 speakers).
Power Supply ThermalTake 430W TR2
Software XP Home SP2, can't wait for Vista SP1.
Heh, I'm too lazy to read all that, I just see a bunch of @bonkers and @anticlutch, so I had to ask :).
 

hat

Enthusiast
Joined
Nov 20, 2006
Messages
21,731 (3.43/day)
Location
Ohio
System Name Starlifter :: Dragonfly
Processor i7 2600k 4.4GHz :: i5 10400
Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Pro :: ASUS Prime H570-Plus
Cooling Cryorig M9 :: Stock
Memory 4x4GB DDR3 2133 :: 2x8GB DDR4 2400
Video Card(s) PNY GTX1070 :: Integrated UHD 630
Storage Crucial MX500 1TB, 2x1TB Seagate RAID 0 :: Mushkin Enhanced 60GB SSD, 3x4TB Seagate HDD RAID5
Display(s) Onn 165hz 1080p :: Acer 1080p
Case Antec SOHO 1030B :: Old White Full Tower
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro - Bose Companion 2 Series III :: None
Power Supply FSP Hydro GE 550w :: EVGA Supernova 550
Software Windows 10 Pro - Plex Server on Dragonfly
Benchmark Scores >9000
Im going to solder guns and rocket launchers on my dads truck and go blow shit up cause I play twisted metal
 
Joined
Sep 9, 2006
Messages
994 (0.16/day)
Location
SoCal
Processor Intel C2D E6420 (3.2 gHz @ 1.365v)
Motherboard Gigabyte 965P-DS3
Cooling Zalman CNPS9500 LED
Memory 4 x 512mb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 667
Video Card(s) Visiontek HD 4870 512mb
Storage 200gb Maxtor SATA, 400gb WD SATA
Audio Device(s) Audigy 2 ZS
Software Windows XP Pro SP2

Completely Bonkers

New Member
Joined
Feb 6, 2007
Messages
2,576 (0.41/day)
Processor Mysterious Engineering Prototype
Motherboard Intel 865
Cooling Custom block made in workshop
Memory Corsair XMS 2GB
Video Card(s) FireGL X3-256
Display(s) 1600x1200 SyncMaster x 2 = 3200x1200
Software Windows 2003
@zak. Don't be lazy :roll: @anti and @bonkers are debating, not arguing. :roll: P.S. Two cultures meeting in the middle and agreeing. Pretty good stuff.
 
Joined
May 14, 2006
Messages
996 (0.15/day)
Location
Kentucky
System Name Sony Vaio - VGNFW390-CTO
Processor Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T9550 (2.66GHz)
Cooling Stock
Memory 4GB DDR2-SDRAM (DDR2-800, 2GBx2)
Video Card(s) ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3650 with 512MB vRAM (pitiful card)
Storage 320GB SATA Hard Disk Drive [7200 rpm]
Display(s) LCD 16.4" (XBRITE-FullHD™)
Audio Device(s) SupremeFX
Software Windows 7
Hahaha I loved twisted metal when I had the playstation 1. Oh my friends and I would always co-op. Good times...
 

ktr

Joined
Apr 7, 2006
Messages
7,404 (1.13/day)
anybody remember the games interstate 76 for the pc or vigilante for the console (ps1/n64)? Those were the bomb!
 

Juntao

New Member
Joined
Oct 11, 2006
Messages
29 (0.00/day)
System Name Fauntleroy
Processor Athlon XP 3200 slowmo
Motherboard Asus A7n8x-x ancient
Cooling ocz fan and some cheap 80mm's, blowhards
Memory 2x512MB OCZ performance gold
Video Card(s) ATI X850
Storage Seagate 160, Maxtor 80
Display(s) samsung 22" lcd
Case Weird lighted cheap thing with neon and cathodes
Audio Device(s) Creative Audigy 2 Plat. Pro
Power Supply Thermaltake 430 as my other one died
Software Win xp usually, spare machine win 2000 and one for linux
I have an automatic now with a clutchless shift. It is good in winter cause you can still start in second. The automatic is great in heavy stop start traffic. Plus the clutchless does ok when need to downshift if want to fly around someone with higher revs. I miss my manual cause it keeps me more awake mostly. That and torque is generally better. Gas mileage as well. The both have positives and negatives. The worst part of either is the monstrous payments. And as far as games influencing people yea sometimes I would like to ram in to the next person like a game but most people have enough sense to note that you can't push the reset button after. America needs an autobahn. And I also think they could do it and make everyone who wants to use it pay about 5% more for their license. Maybe add some driver training. If anything it would be a good way to release some steam. I usually exercise for that but getting over the triple digits on the highway would do the job. I mean whats the use in having a few hundred horsepower if can't let it out to play. And as far as parenting is concerned. I think the US has gotten lazy in that department. We do not want to impose iron will on our kids like our parents but at the same time we are too lax in the discipline dept. Just an opinion. No need to get worked up about it. :) :)
 
Joined
May 14, 2006
Messages
996 (0.15/day)
Location
Kentucky
System Name Sony Vaio - VGNFW390-CTO
Processor Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T9550 (2.66GHz)
Cooling Stock
Memory 4GB DDR2-SDRAM (DDR2-800, 2GBx2)
Video Card(s) ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3650 with 512MB vRAM (pitiful card)
Storage 320GB SATA Hard Disk Drive [7200 rpm]
Display(s) LCD 16.4" (XBRITE-FullHD™)
Audio Device(s) SupremeFX
Software Windows 7
Ah, I remember Vigilante. I didn't like it as much as Twisted Metal, though.
 

Azn Tr14dZ

New Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2006
Messages
5,288 (0.80/day)
Processor AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Motherboard DFI LanParty nf4 Ultra-D
Cooling Thermaltake Big Typhoon
Memory 2x512MB GeIL
Video Card(s) ATI Radeon X800XL
Storage 2x80GB Western Digital
Display(s) HP vs17
Case SuperTalent
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster
Power Supply Ultra X-Finity 500 Watt
to totaly disagree, im a good racing gamer but when it comes to real driving i drive realy safe and calm

but i think this is because my car has a MPG meter and it kills me when it drops when i drive it fast

i drive safe coz it saves money and its more greener

everytime a car over takes mee i always meet it at the next traffic lights, if i drive fast i will only be like 3 meters in front compared to if i was driving econicaly

But cars get more MPG when in the highway/freeway (driving faster), so how does it kill MPG?

A Nissan Pathfinder gets 16 City and 23 Highway...
 
Joined
Sep 9, 2006
Messages
994 (0.16/day)
Location
SoCal
Processor Intel C2D E6420 (3.2 gHz @ 1.365v)
Motherboard Gigabyte 965P-DS3
Cooling Zalman CNPS9500 LED
Memory 4 x 512mb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 667
Video Card(s) Visiontek HD 4870 512mb
Storage 200gb Maxtor SATA, 400gb WD SATA
Audio Device(s) Audigy 2 ZS
Software Windows XP Pro SP2
But cars get more MPG when in the highway/freeway (driving faster), so how does it kill MPG?

A Nissan Pathfinder gets 16 City and 23 Highway...

A car's engine is only efficient up to 55-60 mph... any more than that and you're wasting fuel.
 

ktr

Joined
Apr 7, 2006
Messages
7,404 (1.13/day)
Ah, I remember Vigilante. I didn't like it as much as Twisted Metal, though.

i loved V8: second offense...great game. I need to find it in my collection of ps1 games, and play it on a ps1 emulator....
 

Azn Tr14dZ

New Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2006
Messages
5,288 (0.80/day)
Processor AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Motherboard DFI LanParty nf4 Ultra-D
Cooling Thermaltake Big Typhoon
Memory 2x512MB GeIL
Video Card(s) ATI Radeon X800XL
Storage 2x80GB Western Digital
Display(s) HP vs17
Case SuperTalent
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster
Power Supply Ultra X-Finity 500 Watt
A car's engine is only efficient up to 55-60 mph... any more than that and you're wasting fuel.

Guess your right...I keep forgetting that when they do those MPG tests on the highway it's only ~60 Mph. But when driving from on state to another and no (cops) in sight...80...90...100...;)
 
Top