Radeon HD 5870 Aggressively Priced: Report

kylew · Sep 3, 2009

tigger said:
Look kylew,i am a pessimist,we do get ripped off on hardware prices in the uk.Lets just wait and see the uk release prices eh,then we'll see whos right.As i have said over and over,if i am wrong i will admit i was wrong,but until they come out in the uk we are all speculating.So what if the 48xx were the us prices plus whatever.You dont know for sure the 58xx will follow suite.You are basing your opinion on the 48xx release prices,that does NOT mean the same is going to happen with the 58xx.You think i am wrong so just stfu telling me over and over i am wrong until you know for sure that i am.

'STFU'

Seriously, grow up, for some one who apparently doesn't care if they're wrong, you really do care.

I've already proven you wrong on more than one occasion. You tried to catch me out with that GTX295, that proved you wrong too.

Maybe you want to feel hard done by, but the 'rip-off Britain' is largely a myth that people peddle on and on about.

We do get ripped off in some circumstances, but it's clear when we aren't.

What you're stating is something that hasn't happened, so for me to use previous releases as evidence gives my claims a lot more weight than your claims.

erocker · Sep 3, 2009

Stop now. Post in a polite, respectful manner or don't post at all. Consider this an "official" warning for all.

Achilles1600 · Sep 3, 2009

i think nvidia siad that they are going to announce the GT300 in october.

JATownes · Sep 3, 2009

Achilles1600 said:
i think nvidia siad that they are going to announce the GT300 in october.

I think this will probably be a paper launch in October...Unfortunately, I do not expect to see GT300 cards at retailers until December/January...but I could be wrong...

Deleted member 24505 · Sep 4, 2009

Sorry erocker,it seems me and kylew have conflicting opinions.I wont post in this thread anymore.

Tatty_Two · Sep 4, 2009

JATownes said:
I think this will probably be a paper launch in October...Unfortunately, I do not expect to see GT300 cards at retailers until December/January...but I could be wrong...

Your right, Q1 2010 was always going to be the official release to retail date I think.

Bo_Fox · Sep 4, 2009

tigger said:
Sorry erocker,it seems me and kylew have conflicting opinions.I wont post in this thread anymore.

Nah, I agree with you about the UK prices.. everytime I visit a U.K. website, the prices seem ridiculous!!! :laugh:

You could just block him and not let him stop you from posting in this thread.

Well, I certainly do hope that Powercolor is right about the $299 price.. but then again, it could be for a 5850 and not a 5890! Heh heh.. :slap:

kylew · Sep 6, 2009

Bo_Fox said:
Nah, I agree with you about the UK prices.. everytime I visit a U.K. website, the prices seem ridiculous!!! You could just block him and not let him stop you from posting in this thread.

Well, I certainly do hope that Powercolor is right about the $299 price.. but then again, it could be for a 5850 and not a 5890! Heh heh..

It's not illegal to disagree you know...

The reason I was disagreeing though is that there's plenty of evidence to suggest what they're going to be priced at.

To suggest blocking some one who disagrees with you though? That's mental...

Also, there won't be a 5870 at release, it'll be a 5850 and 5870 according to the rumours.

HalfAHertz · Sep 7, 2009

It appears the HD5xxx are going to be a it of a rip-off compared to HD4xxx
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/9/2/ati-radeon-58502c-58702c-5870x2-pricing-revealed.aspx

We'll have to wait and see a few more days

jamesrt2004 · Sep 7, 2009

Obvious they have the whole "we want somethign bigger and better" market for a good few months, nvidia will be paper launching in september also to try take the thunder away...

its just common sense and we have sene it many times, the moment nvidia then release there cards (they wont have x2 on launch either) ati will have massive price cut, intoduce the X" either a few days before or same day and like last time it seems will be able to undercut (we shall see the performance soon though)

I dont see why everyones worrying just wait till jan :cool:

(liking the rumours about 30~w idle thats been spreading I think thats a bit over exagurated but yeah, I think it's a big hint to say that they have worked out the gddr5 stuff)

pantherx12 · Sep 7, 2009

HalfAHertz said:
It appears the HD5xxx are going to be a it of a rip-off compared to HD4xxx
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/9/2/ati-radeon-58502c-58702c-5870x2-pricing-revealed.aspx

We'll have to wait and see a few more days

Thanks to Powercolor leaking the price that's already been debunked : ]

Bo_Fox · Sep 8, 2009

kylew said:
It's not illegal to disagree you know...

The reason I was disagreeing though is that there's plenty of evidence to suggest what they're going to be priced at.

To suggest blocking some one who disagrees with you though? That's mental...

Also, there won't be a 5870 at release, it'll be a 5850 and 5870 according to the rumours.

All right, sorry about rubbing you the wrong way, bud. Just asking--are there UK websites that sell for as cheap as US sites like Newegg.com?

And you mean 5870X2, right?

HalfAHertz said:
It appears the HD5xxx are going to be a it of a rip-off compared to HD4xxx
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/9/2/ati-radeon-58502c-58702c-5870x2-pricing-revealed.aspx

We'll have to wait and see a few more days

The article that you linked to does not indicate anything about the 58xx being a rip-off. I just read it again... The rumors are that it will have around 2x the trannies, shaders, TMU's, ROP's, etc.. plus DX11 features.

jamesrt2004 said:
(liking the rumours about 30~w idle thats been spreading I think thats a bit over exagurated but yeah, I think it's a big hint to say that they have worked out the gddr5 stuff)

Could be.. but perhaps they are just talking about the lower-end Cypress parts (like the 4770, but with DX11 features).

Scrizz · Sep 8, 2009

HD 5850 ftw!

largon · Sep 8, 2009

Bo_Fox said:
jamesrt2004 said:

(liking the rumours about 30~w idle thats been spreading I think thats a bit over exagurated but yeah, I think it's a big hint to say that they have worked out the gddr5 stuff)

Click to expand...

Could be.. but perhaps they are just talking about the lower-end Cypress parts (like the 4770, but with DX11 features).

Considering it doesn't take anything more than underclocking a HD4890 to c200 and m300 to get the card to idle at ~30W then it shouldn't be a problem at all with the next gen parts...

a_ump · Sep 8, 2009

yea. well 2 more days

. i'm hoping that the paper launch and maybe reviews are thrown up at 12:01 AM tomorro nite. Just gotta know if i sold my Hd 4870 for a good reason. What i'd like to see is the HD 5850 outperforming the GTX 285 by 10-20% and the HD 5870 outperform the GTX 285 by 20-50%. but who knows could be wishful thinkin or could be spot on.

erocker · Sep 8, 2009

pantherx12 said:
Thanks to Powercolor leaking the price that's already been debunked : ]

Heh, unless Powercolors price was for the 5850.

TheQuestian · Sep 14, 2009

ArmoredCavalry said:
Thank you sir.

+1

Yeah, I don't get why the price point is so hard to understand. More advanced tech + similar or lower price = pressure. Isn't pressure the whole point in a competitive market? :ohwell:

And based on the few leaked benchmarks and the early response from reviewers I have seen, there's reason to believe that the 5870 will routinely outperform a GTX 295 with room to spare. The GTX 285 will not even be in the rear view.

For right now, Red Team: +1

TheQuestian · Sep 14, 2009

Heh, that said, I am hoping the GTX 285 drops below $200 so I can snag one for my new build! :toast:

Tatty_Two · Sep 15, 2009

TheQuestian said:
+1

Yeah, I don't get why the price point is so hard to understand. More advanced tech + similar or lower price = pressure. Isn't pressure the whole point in a competitive market?

And based on the few leaked benchmarks and the early response from reviewers I have seen, there's reason to believe that the 5870 will routinely outperform a GTX 295 with room to spare. The GTX 285 will not even be in the rear view.

For right now, Red Team: +1

I agree, however, the rumoured $299 price tag seems to be for the 5850, with $400+ for the 5870..... that said, if it does bring GTX295 beating performance then thats damn good value (however I remain skeptical about it being considerably faster than the 295).

Binge · Sep 15, 2009

Tatty_One said:
I agree, however, the rumoured $299 price tag seems to be for the 5850, with $400+ for the 5870..... that said, if it does bring GTX295 beating performance then thats damn good value (however I remain skeptical about it being considerably faster than the 295).

It seems to be faster in every game that nV hasn't made SLI profiles. In all of those games the FPS are already well over 60 even for a 4870. Just my .02

Melvis · Sep 15, 2009

tigger said:
It'll be £299 in the rip off uk.

Yea that sounds about right, it be priced around $500 here in the land down under, i so hope im wrong tho.

TheQuestian · Sep 15, 2009

Tatty_One said:
I agree, however, the rumoured $299 price tag seems to be for the 5850, with $400+ for the 5870..... that said, if it does bring GTX295 beating performance then thats damn good value (however I remain skeptical about it being considerably faster than the 295).

Well, given ATI's (and NVIDIA's) track record for accurately representing the performance of their hardware, I don't understand the hesitation.

Yeah, a healthy dose of "just-hold-on-a-second" is always safe in the face of a major product launch. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised if the 5870 and 5850 perform well enough to force prices down on all of NVIDIA's lineup, to include the GTX 295.

Tatty_Two · Sep 22, 2009

Seems like the HD5870 is gonna be $399 not $299 that many thought, $299 for the HD5850

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