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I dont know much about ram, but I have Gskill Ripjaws (ddr3-1600 cl9-9-9-24) in my system right now 4sticks at 4gigs a piece. I came up on a brand new set of Ballistix Sports 2 sticks at 8gigs a piece (ddr 3-1600 cl9) now witch set up would be better to run? or are they both basically the same?
 

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Not likely to notice any difference, but you should opt for the 2x8gb kit so upgrading to 32GB down the road is easy.
 

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2 sticks is good. but 4 sticks looks better :D
 
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two is easier on the memory controller
 
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^ I read that somewhere, thus the reason i wanna put the ballistix in, but the ripjaws are damn sexy...im torn. function over form?
 
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iirc the only cpu's that had an issue with 4 sticks of ram was the AMD Phenom's and the first stepping Phenom II and all it did was lower the latencies...all you had to do was ad .1v to the NB...I don't remember Intel ever having this issue....

So like theonedub said it would only likely be a future upgrade issue....even then the likely hood of matching memory for future isn't good as the chips used get changed all the time...even on the same models if you can even find em.
 

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iirc the only cpu's that had an issue with 4 sticks of ram was the amd phenom's and the first stepping phenom ii and all it did was lower the latencies...all you had to do was ad .1v to the nb...i don't remember intel ever having this issue....

So like theonedub said it would only likely be a future upgrade issue....even then the likely hood of matching memory for future isn't good as the chips used get changed all the time...even on the same models if you can even find em.
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I do absolutely no type of editing, and these ballistix were practically given to me.So you guys put yourselves in my shoes, what would you do? throw in the brand new ballistix or just keep my ripjaws in there?
 

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Do you overclock?
I really don't see where you would benefit from switching to the ballistix...
 

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I do absolutely no type of editing, and these ballistix were practically given to me.So you guys put yourselves in my shoes, what would you do? throw in the brand new ballistix or just keep my ripjaws in there?
i prefer form.
 
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^lol these ballistix are damn sexy thoooooo. ahhhhh but the red of these g skills just catches the eye through the window of my hafx..
 

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i think you heart has already made the choice.
 
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Not likely to notice any difference, but you should opt for the 2x8gb kit so upgrading to 32GB down the road is easy.
i agree but you are more likely to do a complete rebuild with new spec stuff before you need 32GB
 
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i think you heart has already made the choice.
lol modding a pc is like modding a car, I was at a point where i didnt know what coilovers i wanted.

what company is better? Crucial or Gskill?
 

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So you already have both sets? Use the Ballistix. They're identical in speed, timings, and altogether size. Having two sticks of memory instead of four should reduce the load on your memory controller and you will be drawing slightly less power. Certain things may run slightly cooler because of the decreased load—both electrical load and computational load. Because of these benefits, overclocking should be easier, and you should be able to hit a higher max clock.
 

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The problem with 8GB sticks (basically the bigger the GB the bigger the problem) is that its harder to get low CAS values with high Mhz. Since you are aiming for a 1600Mhz CAS9 model, and both the 4GB and 8GB sticks u mention have same speed and timings, there is absolutely no difference in performance. In addition 2 sticks is better than 4 for the controller, as others said.
 
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So you already have both sets? Use the Ballistix. They're identical in speed, timings, and altogether size. Having two sticks of memory instead of four should reduce the load on your memory controller and you will be drawing slightly less power. Certain things may run slightly cooler because of the decreased load—both electrical load and computational load. Because of these benefits, overclocking should be easier, and you should be able to hit a higher max clock.
yes i have both sets

i have these in my computer
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3...

and I came up on these yesterday
Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR...

i have yet to learn how to OC ram -_-
 
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I have the sports, no flashing lights or twirly bits but they do the job, I think 2x8Gb will last you a good few years, you will probably upgrade to faster RAM rather than more RAM before you go to 32Gb

This is off techradar about them,

Clock-happy

Just like the Tactical LP modules these wee Sport VLP modules are fairly sprightly at their stock settings, but also remarkably compliant when it comes to overclocking. Keeping the default timings and voltage and just changing the speed in the motherboard BIOS options to 1,866MHz resulted in a non-booting board, but a slacking off of the latency settings to 11-11-11-28 1T (still at the stock 1.35v) got the memory running rock solid at 1,866MHz.

Keeping the same CAS11 settings but altering the speed to 2,133MHz caused the motherboard, again, not to boot, but increasing the voltage to 1.6V got us to a rock solid (even when being pushed hard in the benchmark tests) 2,133MHz.

No matter what we tried to get a bit more out of our review modules, 2,133MHz remained the fastest stable speed we could achieve, but as with all things memory related, you might get lucky and find modules that turn out to be a bit more obliging.

Benchmarks

Memory bandwidth performance
Sisoft Sandra: Gigabytes per second: Higher is better
SPORT VLP @ 1,600MHZ (1.35V): 21
TACTICAL LP @ 1,600MHZ (1.35V): 21
SPORT VLP @ 2,133MHZ (1.60V): 26
TACTICAL LP @ 2,133MHZ (1.5V): 28

Video encoding performance
x264: Frames per second: Higher is better
SPORT VLP @ 1,600MHZ (1.35V): 40.44
TACTICAL LP @ 1,600MHZ (1.35V): 40.34
SPORT VLP @ 2,133MHZ (1.60V): 40.50
TACTICAL LP @ 2,133MHZ (1.5V): 40.52

Gaming performance
Batman: AC: Frames per second: Higher is better
SPORT VLP @ 1,600MHZ (1.35V): 123
TACTICAL LP @ 1,600MHZ (1.35V): 123
SPORT VLP @ 2,133MHZ (1.60V): 125
TACTICAL LP @ 2,133MHZ (1.5V): 126

The fact these modules work so well with tiny heatsinks - even when being overclocked - confirms our general feelings that all those lower speed modules with their large flashy heatsinks, are more to do with catching the attention of your wallet rather than any real cooling function.

Still, the overclocking prowess of these sticks is not really the point. The low latency settings, decent performance and incredible size make this a rather desirable little set. Low-profile, low latency and low voltage - that's quite a combo, and the added versatility offered via the overclocking makes the Sport VLP a great prospect.
 
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If I recall, usually heatsinks are detrimental to RAM, or at least that used to be the case. So the size of the Sports heatsinks has minimal effect. I would say they probably just take the cream of the crop for the tactical line and use the "lesser" sticks as the sport line.
 

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iirc the only cpu's that had an issue with 4 sticks of ram was the AMD Phenom's and the first stepping Phenom II and all it did was lower the latencies...all you had to do was ad .1v to the NB...I don't remember Intel ever having this issue....

So like theonedub said it would only likely be a future upgrade issue....even then the likely hood of matching memory for future isn't good as the chips used get changed all the time...even on the same models if you can even find em.
Socket 939 Athlons/Opterons would run DDR400 with two sticks and DDR333 with four sticks. You had to overclock it to squeeze DDR400 out of four sticks.

Always use the highest densities avilable unless the motherboard can't support it. It should be cheaper anyway.
 
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Keyboard Always Changing
Software Windows 10 Pro 64
#24
Thread purged of posts not pertaining to the OP. Next time, try taking the advice of the moderator comments instead of trying to fight the system all the time.
 

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Processor Intel i7 2700k @ 4.4GHZ | AMD 5350 @ 2500MHZ
Motherboard Asus P7Z77-V Pro | Asus AM1I-A
Cooling GeLID Tranquilo | Stock Air
Memory Crucial Ballistix 2x8GB CL8 1600MHZ | Corsair Vengence 2x4GB CL9 1600MHZ
Video Card(s) Gainward GTX 780 Phantom GLH | PNY GTX 750Ti
Storage Samsung 840 EVO 250GB + 4TB WD Red | 2x Seagate Barracuda 2TB
Display(s) Samsung S27D390H + Asus VE276Q | Headless
Case Fractal Design R5 | CM Elite 110
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar D1 w/Otone Stilo 5.1 and Creative Fatal1ty headset
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 850 G2| Corsair CX430M
Mouse Razer Imperator 2012
Keyboard Corsair K90
Software Windows 7 SP1 X64 | Ubuntu 16.04LTS
#25
Is corsair not the best ram around anymore?? god damnit! as soon as i jump on the trend seems to fade ¬.¬