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Hi Everyone.

I have never been into learning how to overclock Ram and that makes of me a Noob/ inexperienced:laugh:

let's go to the point

My Ram is 3000MHz 15-15-15-35 2T 1.35V stock, i have overclocked it and it is running at 3466MHz 16-16-16-36 2T 1.35V, today i tried 3500MHz but it wont post but because i am an inexperienced i feel lost and confused and i don't know where to start, what to think or what to do in order to overclock the Ram to 3500MHz or above, the only thing that came into my mind is if Ram overclock works like CPU/GPU overclock the more you increase the clock speed the more voltage you have to add?

Would anyone be kind enough to help me?

Screenshot: Summer Overclock:D

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I assume we are talking about the ripjaws? Also what ICs are on the PCB? ICs make a big difference in what is possible and what you need to do to achieve your goals. If you do not know what chips are used and don't want to pull the spreaders, download taiphoon burner and read the spd file.
 
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Timings first then fine tune stability with voltage. I've managed to get up to 3600 MHz from 3000 MHz but either the IMC or Infinity Fabric doesn't like the 1800 MHz. Had to drop the timings on these Team Group Team sticks too 20-22-22-22-38 and nudge the voltage up at 1.4. Sticks are populated with Samsung dies not sure which though.

Current clockspeed, timings and voltage 1.37
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Edit: Thanks @sneekypeet for the tip, I forgot about taiphoon burner.
 
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For me I 'm guessing the dies are B-die?
I guess so:confused:

As said before i dont know about Ram, the only thing i know is to buy it and install it and that is already too much:D
 
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You've got D-die @Knoxx29, it's in the screenshot you posted from thaiphoon burner.
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You've got D-die @Knoxx29, it's in the screenshot you posted from thaiphoon burner.
Now i see it, and that is good or bad? sorry for all the questions,:shadedshu:
 
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Good for me but I forgot your running Intel. At least Intel's IMC is more flexible with the three big names so your still likely to have more clockspeed headroom.
 

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@Knoxx29 Knowing it is Samsung, I can advise this.
1.45VDIMM is "safe" to try on air.
You can also add 0.10V to VCCSA and VCCIO to try to gain stability.

What I typically do it set all three to those parameters, clock the snot out of it, and see where it goes. You can always lower them later ;)
You can test with whatever you want for quick stability checks (IE SuperPi32M) and look for instability out of the gate. However, it is more fun to play games to test long term stability. Also on the note of testing, Memtest86+ will pass clocks and timings that Windows does not like! Maybe try W1zzard's Memtest64 for Windows.
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@Knoxx29 Knowing it is Samsung, I can advise this.
1.45VDIMM is "safe" to try on air.
You can also add 0.10V to VCCSA and VCCIO to try to gain stability
VCCIO is at 1.256V and VCCSA is at 1.208V, should i try the 16-16-16-38 or those posted above by @biffzinker?
 
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Also on the note of testing, Memtest86+ will pass clocks and timings that Windows does not like! Maybe try W1zzard's Memtest64 for Windows.
There's also Windows memory diagnostic tool under administrative tools. It's worked in the past as stability test for me.

Don't forget you can also try your luck with the command rate change from 2 to 1.

Knowing it is Samsung, I can advise this.
1.45VDIMM is "safe" to try on air.
Does that apply to all Samsung DDR4 ICs?

@Knoxx29 I went in steps towards 3533 MHz @ 18-19-19-19-37 then tried 3600 MHz. No luck getting any POST at 3733 MHz. Might try again though.
 

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@biffzinker I have no idea what AMD motherboard makers deem safe.

@Knoxx29 the vccio and vccsa are set pretty damn high for the speeds you are attempting already. I say leave them, add some vdimm, and try higher ram dividers.
 
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VCCIO is at 1.256V and VCCSA is at 1.208V, should i try the 16-16-16-38 or those posted above by @biffzinker?
For comparison purposes; I run XMP 3200/C16 at 1.00v VCCIO/VCCSA, yours seem to be at stock values still.
 

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For comparison purposes; I run XMP 3200/C16 at 1.00v VCCIO/VCCSA, yours seem to be at stock values still.
Honestly i didn't get the part about my been at stock, i run XMP but 3000, i don't know or i guess i should use manual instead XMP?
 
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Honestly i didn't get the part about my been at stock, i run XMP but 3000, i don't know or i guess i should use manual instead XMP?
No I mean your VCCIO/SA values seem to be stock values. Not the RAM. XMP = OC
 

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No I mean your VCCIO/SA values seem to be stock values. Not the RAM. XMP = OC
What voltages should be for XMP?

Maybe my problem is that i haven't found the right timings, i got it to boot at 3600 but sometimes it shut down it self.
 
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Moved the overclock up to 3533 MHz, and surprise latency improved but your mileage may vary.
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Moved the overclock up to 3533 MHz, and surprise latency improved but your mileage may vary.
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It didn't work for me:shadedshu:

I tried something.

Ram 3500MHz VRAM 1.40V and VCCIO/SA auto and it works but the VCCIO/SA auto voltages are way to high and i don't like that at all

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set them both to 1.25V and try more VDIMM. Typically I don't see those auto volts for VCCIO and SA until I am at or over 4000MHz.
 

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set them both to 1.25V and try more VDIMM. Typically I don't see those auto volts for VCCIO and SA until I am at or over 4000MHz.
I will try it later, however i think the problem is i don't find the right Timings.
 

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When I go for speed, I just up the voltage with xmp enabled. I dont mess around with higher timings as you are then negating the speed increase. To each their own though.
 
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Try with XMP, and adjust the divder/clock speed as @sneekypeet suggested. Posted the first time, and straight to booting Windows for me. Needed a bump to voltage of 1.4.
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Keyboard AZIO MRGB Kaith Blue
Software Win 10 Professional 64 bit
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#24
is it Thaiphoon Burner @ ( softnology.biz/files.html ) ? cuz that Download seems to be malicious...atleast according to my AV, and to Virustotal

showing a trojan. Figured even if its not the right DL site, id mention it, as it was the first result to pop up when i googled that program.
 

Knoxx29

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#25
XMP profile is 3000MHz, where should i adjust the clock speed?

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