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Recommend a phone for my 85 yo grandpa, he is frustrated and so am I

Space Lynx

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So my Grandpa gets frustrated easily, as he is aging so much he is starting to lose his ability on stuff.

He can still use google maps though I have to show him a reminder sometimes. He can make phone calls send phone calls, he loves AMOLED screens nice and bright and I usually set the icons to large for him. He likes to use microphone to ask google questions...

His budget is $150 max. (he dropped his old samsung J7 that he loved and it no longer works)

his carrier is consumer cellular? i think that is what he said. i helped him look, I was leaning towards the A20 galaxy by samsung... but its not OLED and he wants OLED... bleh any ideas?

I am frustrated because I can't seem to find anything in his price range...
 
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A20 is OLED but it might not even be available right now since it's three gen old. Yea Samsung started copying Chinese tactic. A20 was og. A20s was mid-year refresh. A21 was successor. Upcoming A21s is mid-year refresh.

Try M21. Though Idk your location and it might not even be available where you live.

And if not partial to Samsung, look at chinese brands like Realme, Xiaomi, Poco etc.
 

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Might be the lame answer, but I see his old phone at like $80. Replace with what he knows?
 

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@Khonjel A21s is not upcoming. It has been released since May & it's LCD.

If you're looking for OLED, it gotta be at least A31.
 
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Motorola makes the best cheap phones. I bought an Samsung A50 after owning a Motorola G. Sent it back, it sucked. Back using Motorola G7 love it. Easy to use. Samsung does not make great cheap phones. They put the money in graphics and screen and cut corners on the CPU.

Also my carrier is Replubic. No contract and $32 a month for 3 Gb data. They have a Moto G for $200

Consumer Cellular has the Moto G for $150, You're welcome
Another thing, the Moto G has a safety feature. If you need a flash light you just shake the phone. Great if your are older and need some light
 
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Might be the lame answer, but I see his old phone at like $80. Replace with what he knows?

Just what i was thinking, no brainer same phone as he loved it so much.
 

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jitterbug 2 ?
 

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A20 is the way to go. It's SuperAMOLED, fits the spec, fits the budget, and also available at Consumer Cellular.
Fixing J7 is out of question, because the replacement OLED module costs upwards of $80 (original modules are super-hard to come by and are even more expensive), and that does not include whatever you have to pay for labor in your nearest workshop. Used J7 is also out of question, 'cause burn-in and potential age-related battery issues.
Other than that, M21 or A30s are your only other options. OLED phones from other manufacturers will always be more expensive, because they also buy screens from Samsung.

jitterbug 2 ?
That's a rebranded $30 chinese smartphone. I highly doubt Alcatel even does the packaging.
It's bare minimum required to run Android 7, with specs akin to entry-level smartphone from 2015.
 
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Get him a 7" Tablet with Sim capability, bigger screen will make it easier with poor vision.
 
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I would say, look for another Samsung j7. My mom is 68, she dropped her samsung s8+, she loves the bigger screen, also has poor vision. She dropped it in January(?), I simply got her another s8+. She knows how it works and happy with it. She said, "son, its like my old phone, even the same color". She said in Spanish.
Why change something that isnt broken. If grandpa loves his older phone, keep it the same.
 

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Motorola makes the best cheap phones. I bought an Samsung A50 after owning a Motorola G. Sent it back, it sucked. Back using Motorola G7 love it. Easy to use. Samsung does not make great cheap phones. They put the money in graphics and screen and cut corners on the CPU.

Also my carrier is Replubic. No contract and $32 a month for 3 Gb data. They have a Moto G for $200

Consumer Cellular has the Moto G for $150, You're welcome
Another thing, the Moto G has a safety feature. If you need a flash light you just shake the phone. Great if your are older and need some light


I tried talking him into the Moto G Power actually, has all the bands, best battery, above average screen even if not OLED. He wouldn't go for it though, he just got frustrated. For some reason his brain is stuck on galaxy is the only phone he can operate... /shrug I might sell him my A30 for cheap, I kind of what that Moto G Power for all the bands since I plan to travel a lot someday, hopefully next summer covid will be sort of fixed enough.
 
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Even with a so-called "senior" mobile, as soon as only one regular WRONG MANIPULATION appears, it quickly leads to complicated use:
"I lower the sound in conversation or ringing "
"I can no longer unlock the keyboard"
"I get lost in the directory"
"I forget to charge it"
"I get lost in the settings and I block something "
"I call numbers that I should not"
"I turn off the phone by hanging up"
"I need a free hand but how do I do it , etc .."

END OF FALSE OPERATIONS:
HIDE FUNCTIONS and SETTINGS, all with a password
REMOVE ALL KEYPAD LOCK, even manual
LOW BATTERY ALERT: send an SMS to 3 numbers
HANDFREE, AUTOMATIC speaker
Lock or no the central key shortcuts
Double confirmation to stop the device
Activate the all-key response (not only the green one)
One touch Volume settings
Silence mode disabled
END OF FALSE HANDLING related to CALLS: block access to the directory
Incoming and outgoing call screening: list the authorized numbers, which inter alia blocks any unauthorized dialing
PHOTOS CONTACTS: scroll 1 to 1 press the green key to call
In the end, only leave what the user can do.

THE CLASSIC INITIAL, a SENIOR telephone with multiple solutions:
ONE SOS KEY (sending an SMS to 5 contacts + 1st number call)
a VERY LOUD SOUND ringing, listening, and hands-free,
a LARGE 2.4-inch SCREEN,
a very good menu contrast (black / white),
a LARGE KEYBOARD,
a CHARGING BASE provided
A DRUG ALERT: voice reminder with name of the drug, daily or other with repetition as long as no valid
FUNCTIONS: you can leave or not the use of the functions: MAGNIFIER, CAMERA (0.3Mpixel), SMS (not MMS), CALCULATOR, SOS, MEDICATION RECALL (even hidden, it works, avoids errors), ALARM ALARM, FM RADIO , LAMP (cannot be removed)

SUPPLIED WITH:USER GUIDES TUTOS VIDEOS (on website), support by phone if necessary.

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Doro maybe? Expect they only seem to sell one phone in US :(
 

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For some reason his brain is stuck on galaxy is the only phone he can operate...
Well, that's not just "old people" problem, it's normal for most non-enthusiast adult people. One of my friends still rocks J5 2015, even though I had to replace the screen 4 times on it (and every time he paid $100 for an original OLED module). And just 2 weeks ago I rebuilt a "vintage" Nokia 6300 out of two donors for my boss. :D
 
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