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Have a retro build I am working on. Athlon XP-M @ 2.2Ghz 400FSB 1GB DDR400 2-2-2-8, Abit NF7-S.

I am looking to replace the FX 5950 Ultra (really is terrible, but in good working condition). I orginally built it with a Radeon 9800 (which was much better especially DX9 games, but it died Several years ago. I like keeping this rig around for nastalgia reason, it was my first, so just looking a better card. Im torn between the X800 XL or a 6800 GT (mostly considering for SM3.0). I would like some thought of some users here. Thanks in advance.
 
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You could go nuts and get a GeForce 7950 GX2.
 
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Limited to AGP. nForce 2 motherboard,
 
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8800GT then , as my bud put it, king of the hill
 
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I suppose you're probably not it pursuit of the top-end AGP card which would be bottlenecked by your CPU (like Radeon HD3850, HD4670). I'm a fan of the GeForce 7 series cards, so I'd probably be looking for the GAINWARD GeForce 7800GS+ AGP with 24pixel/8vertex pipes for nostalgia reason. Still remember I loved this card as it was pretty much on par with a regular 7900GT and a 7800GTX 256MB which were PCI-E limited. As for myself, I had a regular GeForce 7800GS (16pixel/6vertex pipes) and it was the most overclockable card I've ever had. It would hit 530/1500Mhz from default 375/1200 without any modifications. I also really liked a regular GeForce 6800 Ultra for its spiffy cooler. There's also such an AGP beast like a GeForce 7950GT AGP from XFX, however you're gonna need some luck finding one.
 
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if we're talking retro gaming a 6600gt will do you just fine. Though personally getting my hands on a 6800 ultra would be pretty sweet, kinda like when I finally got a 9800 XT 256MB ( well after its time).
 
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From the two you mentioned, I would personally choose the Geforce 6800GT, because the driver support; the Geforce 6 series was supported much longer by nVidia than ATI (AMD now) supported their X800 series. Also nVidia did have better opengl driver support than ATI, unless you are making use of modified drivers (e.g. Omega drivers). I had an AGP Geforce 6800 vanilla and a PCI-E 6800GS.
 
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X850XT PE is the one to go for if you can find one.
 
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Nvidia 6800GT that's back when ATI had driver issues
 
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I have an Athlon XP 2500+ that I ran at 3200+ speed on an nForce2 board. I tried an X800 XL, 7800 GS, X850 Pro flashed to an XT and finally a 7600 GS with it. There's almost no difference between any of them with that CPU bottleneck.
 
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Yea my main concern is if I wanted PS3.0 capabilities.
 

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I have had an nvidia 6800 GS XXX, it was a beast for it's time, but ok that was PCI-e.
I was playing GTA San Andreas with it back then.
 
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X800XL is how I found this forum ages ago, trying to fix a bad bios that the prior owner flashed on it. It had a X800GTO bios with only 8 of the 16 pixel pipes working.
 
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X800XL is how I found this forum ages ago, trying to fix a bad bios that the prior owner flashed on it. It had a X800GTO bios with only 8 of the 16 pixel pipes working.
Flashing the X850 Pro Vivo to an XT was how I found this place. ;)
 
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Ah Vivo, back in the days when ATI was able to be a complete entertainment system. Still have an All-in-Wonder HD with Remote Wonder. Kinda makes you wonder what the AMD/ ATI merger could have been if it wasn't saddled with debt.

Not sure on the 2400m but I have a 2600m that will go to 2.4 on air 2.7 on water. So there should be more headroom to try and minimize the bottleneck. You guys are making me want to go up into the attic and drag that rig down. It it's heyday it was setup as a "Fire Place" complete with faux facade and a built in lcd. Man I miss those days. Everything's become all about bigger and better and forget modding because it'll make it harder to upgrade. Sigh
 
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Radeon had so many unlockable cards back then lol. Seemed like every low end card could be transformed into high end.
 

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For that rig to game properly or run properly youll need Windows Xp

P.S. I had a X1950 Pro in it. A 4670 will run in it too.
 
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I run a Hd2400 pro in mine which is between a 9800 pro and a 9800 xt.
 
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I am running it with windows xp. Just keep checking eBay for a good deal.
 
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I am running it with windows xp. Just keep checking eBay for a good deal.
I have a Chaintech Geforce 5900xt in box if you want it. Its AGP. Used it for a year back in 2004.
 

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Storage Seagate 600 240GB SSD (Boot) + 2xWD Caviar Blue WD10EZEX 1TB Data
Display(s) Asus PB258Q 2560x1440 + Asus VH242H 1920x1080
Case Lian Li PC A05 (Inverted Mobo)
Audio Device(s) Audiotechnica ATH M50X, Antlion Mod Mic 4, SYBA SD-CM-UAUD USB Audio Dongle
Power Supply Seasonic SS-660XP2 660 Watt Platinum
Mouse Zowie EC2A, Corsair MM600, inateck 900mm x 300mm Mat
Keyboard Filco Majestouch II Ninja TKL and Goldtouch GTC 0033 Ten Key (Cherry Browns)
Software Win7 64 Pro
Benchmark Scores Wprime 32 5.758 http://www.wprime.net/Scores/19988/View
#23

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
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Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
#24
64 bit video memory bus on the HD2400. I think a 9800 Pro (256) would be much faster, even if the 2400 is newer.
Performance wise in memory bandwidth and Pixel Rates the 9700 Pro and 9800 Pro are faster. The 2400 had some newer features despite being an inferior card
 
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Processor Phenom II 1100T @ 3.8Ghz / Pentium 4 3.4 EE Gallatin @ 3.825Ghz
Motherboard MSI 970 Gaming/ Abit IC7-MAX3
Cooling CM Hyper 212X / Scythe Andy Samurai Master (CPU) - Modded Ati Silencer 5 rev. 2 (GPU)
Memory 8GB GEIL GB38GB2133C10ADC + 8GB G.Skill F3-14900CL9-4GBXL / 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC4000
Video Card(s) Asus R9 Fury X Strix (4096 SP's/1050 Mhz)/ PowerColor X850XT PE @ (600/1230) AGP + (HD3850 AGP)
Storage Samsung 250 GB / WD Caviar 160GB
Display(s) Benq XL2411T
Audio Device(s) motherboard / Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro + Front panel
Power Supply Tagan BZ 900W / Corsair HX620w
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Software Windows 7 Pro 64Bit / Windows XP
Benchmark Scores 64CU Fury: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11269229 / X850XT PE http://www.3dmark.com/3dm05/5532432
#25
X850XT PE is the one to go for if you can find one.
I have one of those in my ic7-max3 rig! Best card i have ever had!