Riding the Crypto wave

[phill]

Is that showing each card Trog or is that a total? At the moment my total is 4.550kH/s for the 6 cards I have running... Global Rate of a bit over 1.70.... Whatever that means... lol

 

[trog100]

the pic is for both cards in my desktop machine.. it does compare as it should with my 8 card mining machine.. the miner reads 4 x what the desktop shows.. not always exactly but close enough..

its a shame that nicehash has to buy bitcoin with whatever its mining.. as the bitcoin price goes up you get less and less of it.. the figure that interests me is the daily bitcoin return.. mine has gone down from .004 something to .0025 -ish.. a hefty drop..

trog

 

[verycharbroiled]

If you look at the bottom left hand side of NiceHash screen, you'll see something called 'Global rate' there and I'm wondering what it means as I'm seeing it change from anything from 1 to 2+ but my hashrate seems to be staying the same.. I'm a little confused as to what it's doing or meaning!! For example at the moment, it's up to 2.3 which is great since I'm earning more this morning

Thanks. I don't use the nicehash miner, I use claymore and ewbf directly and point them at nicehash.

 

[cdawall]

What do you run your 470/480's at cdawall?? It seems I'm hitting about the 750 h/s ish mark with mine currently...

They are setup to run 27-28mh/s for the 470's in eth and 30-31 in eth for the 580 so it varies by card. They are not tweaked for etn at all just the old settings for eth

 

[phill]

the pic is for both cards in my desktop machine.. it does compare as it should with my 8 card mining machine.. the miner reads 4 x what the desktop shows.. not always exactly but close enough..

its a shame that nicehash has to buy bitcoin with whatever its mining.. as the bitcoin price goes up you get less and less of it.. the figure that interests me is the daily bitcoin return.. mine has gone down from .004 something to .0025 -ish.. a hefty drop..

trog

The Bitcoin return does seem all over the place, I'm not sure how much I'm making but it's more than not doing it at all

Thanks. I don't use the nicehash miner, I use claymore and ewbf directly and point them at nicehash.

Is that difficult to set up at all?

They are setup to run 27-28mh/s for the 470's in eth and 30-31 in eth for the 580 so it varies by card. They are not tweaked for etn at all just the old settings for eth

Mine aren't anywhere close to that for ETH sadly, about 23mh/s at best I think.. DAG files and all have really slowed it down.. Probably down to the bios I have loaded into my Strix cards

 

[cdawall]

Mine aren't anywhere close to that for ETH sadly, about 23mh/s at best I think.. DAG files and all have really slowed it down.. Probably down to the bios I have loaded into my Strix cards

The DAG file really shouldn't could be the BIOS or drivers.

 

[phill]

The bios of the cards I hope I attached a few posts back now.. The drivers I use are 17.5.1 I believe... They seem to be the only ones that worked with the modified bios I have Anything newer doesn't work with the cards or doesn't give me any control on the core voltage or power limits... Frustrating

 

[cdawall]

Run the atikpatcher and install the block chain drivers

 

[verycharbroiled]

[using claymore/ewbf miners for nicehash]

Is that difficult to set up at all?

not really.

here is a list of the various algo pool addys at nicehash, you just point your miner at them:
https://www.nicehash.com/help/which-stratum-servers-are-available

the command line varies with the miner software. here are my command lines as examples (some of the parameters i have are optional/redundant). claymore has a ton of options to control temps, fanspeed, memory and core clocks etc, but i dont use them; i use afterburner. links are to the bitcointalk forum official treads by the miner author, which have the official download links (hope these links do not break any rules).

claymore ethereum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.0

EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool stratum+tcp://daggerhashimoto.usa.nicehash.com:3353 -ewal [BTC ADDY.RIGNAME] -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -wd 1 -r 1 -mport 3333 -mode 1

claymore cryptonight: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=638915.0

NsGpuCNMiner.exe -xpool stratum+tcp://cryptonight.usa.nicehash.com:3355 -xwal [BTC ADDY.RIGNAME] -xpsw xxx -dmem 1 -r 1 -dbg -1

EWBF: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1707546.0

miner --server equihash.usa.nicehash.com --user [BTC ADDY.RIGNAME] --pass x --port 3357 --pec

claymore also has a cool monitoring tool that allows you to monitor and control all your claymore rigs and gives pretty detailed statistics as well as decent control of the miners. monitor/control them from one computer. it is included with his miners.

EDIT: ewbf is zcash

 

[phill]

Run the atikpatcher and install the block chain drivers

Is that very easy to find? Many apologises for asking daft questions, but if I don't things tend to go wrong!! lol I hope that this will work! Was it the latest and greatest drivers I'd need to update to on top of running that piece of software?

not really.

here is a list of the various algo pool addys at nicehash, you just point your miner at them:
https://www.nicehash.com/help/which-stratum-servers-are-available

the command line varies with the miner software. here are my command lines as examples (some of the parameters i have are optional/redundant). claymore has a ton of options to control temps, fanspeed, memory and core clocks etc, but i dont use them; i use afterburner. links are to the bitcointalk forum official treads by the miner author, which have the official download links (hope these links do not break any rules).

claymore ethereum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.0

EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool stratum+tcp://daggerhashimoto.usa.nicehash.com:3353 -ewal [BTC ADDY.RIGNAME] -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -wd 1 -r 1 -mport 3333 -mode 1

claymore cryptonight: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=638915.0

NsGpuCNMiner.exe -xpool stratum+tcp://cryptonight.usa.nicehash.com:3355 -xwal [BTC ADDY.RIGNAME] -xpsw xxx -dmem 1 -r 1 -dbg -1

EWBF: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1707546.0

miner --server equihash.usa.nicehash.com --user [BTC ADDY.RIGNAME] --pass x --port 3357 --pec

claymore also has a cool monitoring tool that allows you to monitor and control all your claymore rigs and gives pretty detailed statistics as well as decent control of the miners. monitor/control them from one computer. it is included with his miners.

Many thanks for that! I'll see how I get on with the update above and then see what happens afterwards!! I'm hoping for a performance boost!!

 

[verycharbroiled]

Many thanks for that! I'll see how I get on with the update above and then see what happens afterwards!! I'm hoping for a performance boost!!

not sure about a performance boost (maybe maybe not), there are a couple reasons i use direct mining vs the nicehash miner.

one is that different algos like different tweaks. eth likes high mem clocks and you can undervolt/underclock the core quite a bit. other like high core clocks (and cant undervolt as well) and dont really care about mem clocks. depends on the card and algo. so to get best power to hash ratio you need to pretty much stick to one algo. modding the bios for best hash/watt on eth say may make other algos inefficient.

i also noticed that when using nicehash (a while ago, like 6 months maybe) switching algos occasionally caused instability/lockups. maybe because of my card settings though. nicehash seemed to get stuck on an algo on occasion, when it should of changed. maybe new versions have fixed this.

this part is just a theory of mine but i wonder if when a large percentage of folks (ie nicehash miners) switch to the most profitable algo at the same time, it very quickly becomes unprofitable. kinda defeats the purpose. tons of hash just goes back and forth. and i would rather have a fairly well tuned miner on one algo rather than a "lowest common denominator" tuning that is less power efficient. i do check every once and a while and will switch algos if it seems prudent to do so (i have a couple different afterburner profiles) but aside from the occasional big profitable order with a particular algo on nicehash where the nicehash miner would switch to it on its own it just seems a wash to me. maybe a mistake on my part but i like to just leave my rigs alone for weeks at a time.

 

[phill]

I completely agree with what your saying, although what I've done is setup for ETC/ETH and nothing much else if I'm honest.. cdawall has suggested a program for me to try for different setup, so I'm rather interested in seeing what that does for me later on when I get home from work and I've my sorted my chores!!

I know with NiceHash this morning was a massively good example.. It was mining away on Cryptonite and then all of a sudden changed to something else and my profit was cut in half at the time.. Plus when I looked at the watt meter, it was getting on for nearly double the power draw, something I wasn't very impressed with! Before leaving for work this morning, I've set it to mine only using Cryptonite and I've left it carry on. Today has seemed to be rather profitable and I remember from the watt meter, it's kept it pretty low as I don't see the point in running something 110% which is putting more stress on the cards, using more power, creating more heat when backing it back to say 80% to 90% will give you pretty much everything that you get at the 110% mark, but at a lower power consumption and so on.

I know setting the clocks on my cards running 1145/2140 takes 620w without my other fans on (the cards barely get warm and hit 38C...) but when I set it to run 1215/2140 the power consumption goes up 100w and I can't really see what that extra 100w gives me each hour from the hash rate I see NiceHash reporting.. Makes me feel like I'm wasting energy and electric trying to get it to run that bit faster as the 1145/2140 setting seems to be the best of both worlds...

When mining ETC and ETH before, my best mate and I just used to leave the rigs running for certainly weeks on end pulling 800w very second and we never even got close to any issues. The Asus Strix cards I use, have been bloody fantastic for that stability and most definitely temps for which they where definitely a better buy than my friend having the Gigabyte G1's I think they where..

 

[cdawall]

Is that very easy to find? Many apologises for asking daft questions, but if I don't things tend to go wrong!! lol I hope that this will work! Was it the latest and greatest drivers I'd need to update to on top of running that piece of software?

The link to it is in my mining BIOS thread. The drivers are whatever ones pop up when you google AMD block chain drivers. I don't even know what version they are anymore I just google it each time In theory I should probably save those or something.

 

[phill]

Run the atikpatcher and install the block chain drivers

Are these the two pieces of software I need?

https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-AMD-ATI-Pixel-Clock-Patcher
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-art...ta-for-Blockchain-Compute-Release-Notes.aspx#

I'm sorry for the questions, but I just want to make sure as I don't want to damage any of the cards I've got as they've been working so well for so long!!

 

[phill]

The link to it is in my mining BIOS thread. The drivers are whatever ones pop up when you google AMD block chain drivers. I don't even know what version they are anymore I just google it each time In theory I should probably save those or something.

I did have a look at your thread ( https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/mining-bios-repository.237382/ ) but my card is not listed I seem to be doing ok today, 0.002 approx to mine Much better than what I was getting which was about half that!!

 

[trog100]

i tend to find equihash (zcash) is the most profitable to mine on my nvidia cards.. daggerhash and decred dont seem to produce as much..

bitcoin has took a nosedive today.. down about 600 dollars..

trog

 

[phill]

I've managed to grab a screen shot of what I was hoping to get some clarification on and I'm hoping everyone here might be able to help..

I've uploaded my 'stats' from NiceHash GUI, could anyone tell me how the Global Rate is calculated or what it's meant to represent at all?? It's been changing throughout the day, the highest I've seen is about the 2.3 mark but then the lowest I've seen is around is 1.8 or so I think? I'm just curious what it means!!
I've included a screenshot of the hashrate I think, could someone, anyone, help?? lol Many thanks in advance!!

I've only AMD cards Trog so I just go with whatever I can as I have really no idea what to do lol I saw Bitcoin dropped a bit, I hope that it works out for later on!!

 

[cdawall]

I did have a look at your thread ( https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/mining-bios-repository.237382/ ) but my card is not listed I seem to be doing ok today, 0.002 approx to mine Much better than what I was getting which was about half that!!

I just meant the atikpatcher was in it lol

i tend to find equihash (zcash) is the most profitable to mine on my nvidia cards.. daggerhash and decred dont seem to produce as much..

bitcoin has took a nosedive today.. down about 600 dollars..

trog

No its most profitable on 1080's the 1060/1070/1070ti are all better on other algorithms

 

[trog100]

i just go on what i see.. running on my desktop machine i get to see whats going on quite often.. when i see low dollar figures and have a look at what algo is running more often than not its dagger..

but the whole thing isnt very consistent.. he he

currently my dollar return is as low as it ever is.. kinda sh-t.. and yep its running dagger decred..

trog

 

[phill]

I just meant the atikpatcher was in it lol

Ah ha!! So sorry... Being very dumb at that point!! I'll try it out tonight and see how I get on... Here's hoping that I don't break it...!!

i just go on what i see.. running on my desktop machine i get to see whats going on quite often.. when i see low dollar figures and have a look at what algo is running more often than not its dagger..

but the whole thing isnt very consistent.. he he

currently my dollar return is as low as it ever is.. kinda sh-t.. and yep its running dagger decred..

trog

I've just left it running CryptoNight.. I think its just the best out there at the moment as dual mining doesn't/didn't seem to give me the turn around that Cryptonight did.. The power usage for the turn around is brilliant!

 

[trog100]

my money return varies by around 30 % up and down for no reason i can figure.. i just leave nicehash to it..

my power usage stays roughly the same..

trog

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

So what needs changing for the cards to work better with a higher hash rate than what they are doing at the moment? I'm not sure which or what bios my mate flashed all of my cards to, but I can and will find out for you I have uploaded both of the roms I believe I'm using, one flashes to a 580 and the other 1750 strap for the ram timings I believe

At present I think I'm averaging about the 22 to 23MH a card depending on what I'm mining (ETC seems to be lower than ETH for example) but the temps etc seem to be very good, under 40C under full load. I've not noticed today any drops in core or ram speed either... What will your bios mod allow the cards to do?

sorry for the delay the 1750 bios is a modded bios the 580 one is not , is the 580 one in use because it would give lower hash rate I have modded it and attached it. i think you will need the pixel patcher to install drivers

 

[phill]

my money return varies by around 30 % up and down for no reason i can figure.. i just leave nicehash to it..

my power usage stays roughly the same..

trog

When Nicehash with Cryptonight runs it runs at the same sort of power consumption, only the dual mining etc goes nuts with the power usage etc, sometimes over 1000w, which is no good if I'm not getting double the performance from the cards I feel... I'm much the same Trog, I'll just leave it run and carry on!

sorry for the delay the 1750 bios is a modded bios the 580 one is not , is the 580 one in use because it would give lower hash rate I have modded it and attached it. i think you will need the pixel patcher to install drivers

I'm very grateful of the help, so I wasn't even close to worrying about the time!! I am very very grateful for you making me a bios at all!! I believe the bios in use is the 1750.. I believe my best mate flashed the card to a 580 (as originally they are 480's) and then put the strap on to it that way? Should I install Pixel Patcher first and then mod one card and test and go from there?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

When Nicehash with Cryptonight runs it runs at the same sort of power consumption, only the dual mining etc goes nuts with the power usage etc, sometimes over 1000w, which is no good if I'm not getting double the performance from the cards I feel... I'm much the same Trog, I'll just leave it run and carry on!



I'm very grateful of the help, so I wasn't even close to worrying about the time!! I am very very grateful for you making me a bios at all!! I believe the bios in use is the 1750.. I believe my best mate flashed the card to a 580 (as originally they are 480's) and then put the strap on to it that way? Should I install Pixel Patcher first and then mod one card and test and go from there?

Well if he modded the 580 bios into the 1750 bios your already set up right since your saying a friend has done this for you , your hashrate seams low at 23-24 so if it were me I would individually dump each cards bios then read them using Polaris bios editor v1.4 off github.

Check the last section of the 1750 memory strap ,copy and paste it to a notepad then compare it to the 2000 setting alsopasted to the notepad if they're the same its ok ,move onto the next card.

This is how i make sure.

In bios making i only changed you're memory strap but on mine I would also permanently set a lower core clock and higher memory clock.

I settled on one for 3 and a slightly different one for my pulses.

If you settle on some let me know ill do this for you.

 

[phill]

Many thanks again I might leave this till the weekend as I'm away tomorrow and back late Thursday night for work so I'd rather be able to leave it as it is for the minute, then I can hopefully give myself plenty of time over the weekend to have a look at it

It did lock up earlier today whilst I was at work, a few dots over the screen so I've lowered the core and ram speeds down a little and I'll see how things go from there... First time I've noticed it was this morning with a few pixels getting corrupt so I'm guessing that the memory clock might be a little on the high side.. If I need to lower it back, then that's not a problem...