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Hi! So I have a WRT54GL that is using tomato. Pretty much, is this still a damn good option in terms of performance compared to some of the newer routers available now looking at the (Portal and the WRT32X)? Wondering if it's time to retire it and go with something else. Thanks!
 

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That's an old router.

Before we answer those questions, mind answering a few of mine?

  • What do you do on your LAN?
  • Do you rely on this device for WiFi?
  • Do you have speed complaints or network performance issues?
  • Is Tomato keeping up-to-date and are you updating?
I'd go with a newer setup for a variety of reasons...but those might not pertain to your needs. I still see a lot of those units alive in the field...mostly with the OEM firmware (*cringes*).

But let's find out what you do on and need from your network.

Odds are you should consider replacing it...a device that old is a ticking time bomb reliability wise.
 
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That's an old router.

Before we answer those questions, mind answering a few of mine?

  • What do you do on your LAN?
  • Do you rely on this device for WiFi?
  • Do you have speed complaints or network performance issues?
  • Is Tomato keeping up-to-date and are you updating?
I'd go with a newer setup for a variety of reasons...but those might not pertain to your needs. I still see a lot of those units alive in the field...mostly with the OEM firmware (*cringes*).

But let's find out what you do on and need from your network.

Odds are you should consider replacing it...a device that old is a ticking time bomb reliability wise.
mostly just gaming and streaming, but I'm by myself. i do rely on it for wifi on some devices, console gaming, streaming movies and cell phone. yeah sometimes the speed seems slow or doesn't seem much better than i feel it should be. i keep it up to date.
 
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check this
https://mikrotik.com/products/group/wireless-for-home-and-office

maybe hAP ac, less attractive aesthetically, but very well made
fully configurable, rock stable, use any power supply, above regular desktop/"gaming" transmitter power and high sensitivity (you will never lose signal in noisy environment and through walls)

me currently running RB951G-2HnD, since i don't have and not planning to use AC mode next 2-3 years, waiting for 10GE wired setup first
 
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Questions:

Sq Ftage of house:
Budget:
Can run cabling:
Need for advanced services like VoIP,VPN,VLAN,etc:
PoE:

Fill in those for some better recommendations.

But in short I can recommend if you have a smaller place and can't run cables = WRTACS1900 w DDWRT firmware
If you can run cables = Ubiquiti ERL/ER, UniFi Switch 8 60W/Ubiquiti Unifi AP-AC(Lite or LR) x how many others you'll need.

Notes on a few routers mentioned: WRT32X wasn't a very good performer. Unstable radios and the default firmware is the 3rd worst I've ever tried and I have tested hundreds of routers and even beta tested some. ACS1900 performed a hell of a lot better, and it's cheaper.
 

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What is your WAN speed you are paying for?

Since you are already using and used to Tomato, I'd recommend another router that can run it. My personal favorite right now is the ASUS RT-AC3200. It is a little pricey, but a damn solid router and you can run Tomato on it.
 
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Wondering if it's time to retire it and go with something else.
Yes.

First, the integrated 4-port Ethernet switch only supports 10/100Mbps networking. That is not likely a problem with Internet access (unless you have fiber) but since you said you do local streaming, that could be a bottleneck.

Second, it only supports 802.11b/g wireless networking. 11g tops out at 54 Mbps (in theory but not really) and only supports the crowded 2.4GHz band. 11ac tops out at 1000Mbps (1Gbps) and can utilize the less crowded 5GHz band.
 
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So what you expect?
If the current one is running pretty good and meet your need you dont need to change them
 
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What is your WAN speed you are paying for?

Since you are already using and used to Tomato, I'd recommend another router that can run it. My personal favorite right now is the ASUS RT-AC3200. It is a little pricey, but a damn solid router and you can run Tomato on it.
100mbps, I will check that out. I wanted to see if anyone had any opinions on the Razer Portal.
Questions:

Sq Ftage of house:
Budget:
Can run cabling:
Need for advanced services like VoIP,VPN,VLAN,etc:
PoE:

Fill in those for some better recommendations.

But in short I can recommend if you have a smaller place and can't run cables = WRTACS1900 w DDWRT firmware
If you can run cables = Ubiquiti ERL/ER, UniFi Switch 8 60W/Ubiquiti Unifi AP-AC(Lite or LR) x how many others you'll need.

Notes on a few routers mentioned: WRT32X wasn't a very good performer. Unstable radios and the default firmware is the 3rd worst I've ever tried and I have tested hundreds of routers and even beta tested some. ACS1900 performed a hell of a lot better, and it's cheaper.
It's a Small studio so 570 sqft I believe, budget is nothing ridiculous so I hope to spend at most of 150, I was gonna keep it next to my PC and everything else will be wireless but if I can't then I wouldn't mind running a ethernet cable to the PC (I have the cable for it!), don't think I need any of the extra stuff like that, I just want something simple and fast, Don't think I would need PoE but I am interested in knowing which ones will be able to do that.
 

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100mbps, I will check that out.
I can almost guarantee you that you aren't actually getting the 100Mbps through your current WRT54GL. The processor in those is not fast enough to do much more than 30-40Mbps between the LAN and WAN.
 
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wouldnt several tin cans and sting work as well as this router?:D:p

New routers are cheap, used ones even cheaper. When it comes to network security, being sentimental doesnt work out so well.

Plus new router have better features you can understand and control easier. I think. :pimp:

Used computer shops might even better than Ebay
 
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100mbps, I will check that out. I wanted to see if anyone had any opinions on the Razer Portal.

It's a Small studio so 570 sqft I believe, budget is nothing ridiculous so I hope to spend at most of 150, I was gonna keep it next to my PC and everything else will be wireless but if I can't then I wouldn't mind running a ethernet cable to the PC (I have the cable for it!), don't think I need any of the extra stuff like that, I just want something simple and fast, Don't think I would need PoE but I am interested in knowing which ones will be able to do that.

Either one of the 2 I recommended would work then. Might have to go refurb, but that's not too bad as long as you make sure they are reset. Another good pick is the Netgear nighthawk AC1900 R7000 and put DDWRT or Tomato on it. It's got a semi passable default firmware, but that's it. I would avoid some of the newer netgear's because they are switching over to annapurnia labs for their SoCs and amazon owns that company, and you know their fav number is 1984.. LOL.
 
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Either one of the 2 I recommended would work then. Might have to go refurb, but that's not too bad as long as you make sure they are reset. Another good pick is the Netgear nighthawk AC1900 R7000 and put DDWRT or Tomato on it. It's got a semi passable default firmware, but that's it. I would avoid some of the newer netgear's because they are switching over to annapurnia labs for their SoCs and amazon owns that company, and you know their fav number is 1984.. LOL.
I'm unknowledgeable about those items. Do they have wifi capabilities? I am always down for trying something I haven't heard of. Would THIS and THIS be the best bang here?

Edit: I lied! I love their amplifi routers! they look really awesome
 
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ER PoE is probably the easier option. the edgerouter X needs other stuff to get the PoE out to work right.
 
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ER PoE is probably the easier option. the edgerouter X needs other stuff to get the PoE out to work right.
Eh, I may pass. I like the idea of it and everything it has to offer but I like to use Wifi for a couple of my devices as I don't want cables everywhere
 
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That was only for the router part. The rest of my wireless recommendations are still there ;)
 
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I'm unknowledgeable about those items. Do they have wifi capabilities? I am always down for trying something I haven't heard of. Would THIS and THIS be the best bang here?

Edit: I lied! I love their amplifi routers! they look really awesome
I'm sitting here not fully awake, drinking coffee, eyes still pried open with toothpicks, and I read the underlined as : I lover their armpit routers. Took me 3 times to understand what I read was goofy, I mean who walks around is routers in their armpits?
 
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Maybe. Do you feel you need more network performance? Any cheap router you can find at walmart would outperform it.
 
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Maybe. Do you feel you need more network performance? Any cheap router you can find at walmart would outperform it.
Well I just want something that isnt going to drop connection. Since I am by myself and only using 30mbps I just want something thats fast reliable, the extra features are for guests like, mu mi mo etc. but I game alot and I dont want any sort of interruptions while playing etc.

edit: i recently came across this https://flash.newegg.com/product/9SIAFJW7EP9027 wasn't sure if it would be worth it or anything. I am kind of lost here, don't really wanna spend too much either
 
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Well I just want something that isnt going to drop connection. Since I am by myself and only using 30mbps I just want something thats fast reliable, the extra features are for guests like, mu mi mo etc. but I game alot and I dont want any sort of interruptions while playing etc.

edit: i recently came across this https://flash.newegg.com/product/9SIAFJW7EP9027 wasn't sure if it would be worth it or anything. I am kind of lost here, don't really wanna spend too much either
I think about $75-100 for a router will get you just about everything you need with good speeds. Just remember, you get what you pay for, so look for features you want or need carefully.
 
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#23
Updating this cause I didn’t wanna make another thread. I purchased a TP-Link P5 for waaaaay less than it was going for, 40 bucks! I haven’t seen or heard any reviews on it, could anyone help? Yes, I kind of just purchased something without doing research, but it’s a damn good price couldn’t help myself
 
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#24
Touch P5? That won't support custom firmware and a quick google will give you bad news. You're pretty much screwed when it comes to custom firmware. Highly restrictive BCM chip and it stems from the display as well as other factors. TP link is also locking down a lot as well.
 
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#25
Touch P5? That won't support custom firmware and a quick google will give you bad news. You're pretty much screwed when it comes to custom firmware. Highly restrictive BCM chip and it stems from the display as well as other factors. TP link is also locking down a lot as well.
And what if I’m not too concerned with doing any custom firmware this time around, is it still a bad router?
 
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