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Russia Develops First Domestic B450 Motherboard

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When governments need a hardware upgrade, they will usually take the route of exploring options with security in mind. However, if you happen to have some engineering talent to employ on a new project, why wouldn't you just build a custom motherboard for your own purposes. Today, GS Group Holding and Philax, have announced that they are starting the manufacturing of Russia's first motherboard based on a B450 chipset from AMD. Looking at the motherboard, which you can see below, you might find it very similar to those of ASRock. And that is because Philax has a licensing agreement with ASRock to use the design of the B450M Pro4 motherboard, with the addition of a TPM module which is often used by government agencies, to produce this board.

Producing around 40,000 pieces, these motherboards are expected to handle anything from 4000 series to 5000 series of AMD processors. As far as the specifications go, the board is coming in a standard Micro-ATX form factor. It is equipped with four DDR4 memory slots that can take a memory with up to 3200 MHz speed. There are two PCIe 3.0 x16 slots and one PCIe 2.0 x1 slot, which are of course limited by CPU choice. The motherboard enables four SATA III and two M.2 ports for storage expansion. When it comes to I/O, the board features HDMI, D-Sub, DVI-D, four USB 3.1 Gen1, two USB 2.0, one USB Type-C, and one USB 3.1 Gen2 Type-A port. GS Group Holding and Philax also have a partnership that goes beyond just motherboards. They also plan to produce about 50,000 custom monitors for government purposes as well.


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"GS Group Holding and Philax" don't sound very Russian. :wtf:
 
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"GS Group Holding and Philax" don't sound very Russian. :wtf:

They are a Russian company in Kaliningrad Russia. They make semiconductors of various kinds - processors for Set Top Boxes (and the devices overall), they make the boards for SSD's (looking to even make their own memory modules but don't know), they make logic boards for various machining equipment, and motherboards. They will be making for Russia's Elbrus and Baikal ARM/MIPS processors motherboards.

They were also planning to push for making processors to compete against Baikal electronics, MCST, Elvees, Komdiv, etc.
 
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This will be only for OEM builders most likely. Maybe they will leak some to the custom market. But more likely just on order by demand.

I mean, Kraftway also makes Intel Motherboards for their Intel machines. Rather simple motherboards but does the job for anyone buying an Intel machine from Kraftway. Cant find them on the market without getting one from a ripped out PC.
 
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I like the design. No RGB shitshow, no unnecessary plastic bullshit for 300$ extra, just a funcional board with functional semi-passive cooling.

Great!

Yeah, I love how they reintroduced the classic heatsinks that allow you to cut yourself anytime you're replacing something on the board, and the factory-included bend really seals the deal!

In Soviet Russia, you don't destroy motherboards, they destroy you :laugh:
 

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Wouldn't mind using one. Looks like a great no frills option. I hate RGB crap.
I was actually very surprised by the fact that my new MSI board didn't have any RGB or red paint on it. It did let me plug the light-up fans into it, but otherwise it's pretty conservative.
 
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I like the design. No RGB shitshow, no unnecessary plastic bullshit for 300$ extra, just a funcional board with functional semi-passive cooling.

Great!

It just an ASRock B450M Pro4/Pro4-F without the branding...

 
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Looks okay, if they made it in military grade and with typical RU army quality (indestructible and idiot proof) then it would be probably even great product.

Questions are..

1) how much spy chips is on that

2) will it be available outside RU?

IMHO, world could use more countries making PC hardware. Having everything more or less concentrated in one place isnt good and it also aint particularly safe either, considering that region is unstable even from natural disaster perspective.

It just an ASRock B450M Pro4/Pro4-F without the branding...

Licensed then probably?
 
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Licensed then probably?

Seems to be the case.

Got no solid info on the matter sadly, I just recognized the familiar heat-sinks over the VRM.
 
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Here are some details.

It is for barebone kits and monoblocks.
 
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Looks okay, if they made it in military grade and with typical RU army quality (indestructible and idiot proof) then it would be probably even great product.

Questions are..

1) how much spy chips is on that

2) will it be available outside RU?

IMHO, world could use more countries making PC hardware. Having everything more or less concentrated in one place isnt good and it also aint particularly safe either, considering that region is unstable even from natural disaster perspective.


Licensed then probably?
1) just as many spy chips as there are in boards destined for the US market. Most likely if there is spying involved, it would be done through the root backdoor known as the intel management engine, or AMD's PCP, which cannot be accessed by the end user and sits below the BIOS, rather then the chipset which can be freely tinkered with.

2) highly unlikely, although it would be nice if russia started building their own manufacturing system. I agree with others that some no nonsense boards made otuside of the chinese system would be a welcome change to an overly homoginized system.

Supermicro built it and shipped to Russia.
Huh? It says in the article:

"GS Group Holding and Philax, have announced that they are starting the manufacturing of Russia's first motherboard based on a B450 chipset from AMD"
 
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Domestic ???
it is like a copy of asrock B350\450m pro4.

Lets call it domestic license production...
 
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Supermicro? They can make good stuff when they want, sadly they mostly dont want. And especially dont like to update BIOS.
 
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Huh? It says in the article:

"GS Group Holding and Philax, have announced that they are starting the manufacturing of Russia's first motherboard based on a B450 chipset from AMD"
bad joke. (yes I do make them from time to time.)

Maybe if I said "they took lessons from Supermicro"?
 
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