Russia successfully tests 'unstoppable' 4,600mph hypersonic weapon

[AsRock]

I wouldn't underestimate this news guys. Russia isn't China. They build good stuff. If this was leaked to the press you can bet your bottom dollar they have something better already developed. The darpa stuff we are developing is just that, developing. How many carriers do you see with a working anti-missile laser cannon. AFAIK they just got the first rail gun deployed and its not even designed for this. "ADAM" is still in development.

Personally I wouldn't want to gamble with the Russians.

Should not underestimate China either, even more so with all the crap were buying from them.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

Considering the stuff we do know about can vaporize the planet, any other weapons are pretty much meaningless to me. It's nothing more than the bloodthirsty playing with tax dollars.

I agree our focus on weapons of mass destruction is pretty ridiculous. However a lot of that technology is now in our everyday lives. The Internet, RADAR, GPS, Microwaves, Encryption, Cell Networks, Jet Engines, and most important Duct Tape!!

 

[dont whant to set it"']

Agreed. Anything less than FTL is so meh.

And the mobile fusion reactor could be visible from orbit perhaps further(size).

for now yes.
there is a long road to be walked till hypersonic becomes everyday.
tech that teoreticaly can do it has been developed and tested ww2 by germans. however setting everything up in just one device that can do hypersonic will take some more time.

Actually ,quite the contrary ,it could take way less time for a one off .

 

[laszlo]

i don't think is possible to keep a laser focused on a target with this speed... a focused emp will damage it but don't know if is possible to do it...

time to show the trb...

 

[agent_x007]

1) I say the biggest problem of this missile is USSR build ships that carry it.
If you can detect a sub/ship before it launches, that sub/ship is DEAD.
2) I'm gussing here, but going over 3,5 Mach can't be fuel efficient thing to do (especially on low altitudes, if they planned to hide from radars that way).
So range of that thing can't be that big and if you can't get close enough to a target - that weapon is useless.
3) How to shoot down a missile : LINK

 

[Vayra86]

USA is Already Deploying
Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD), formerly Theater High Altitude Area Defense,

If it can target and hit a Re entering Ballistic missile ( which its Supposed to have this Capability )
Then there is a Very Good Chance it will take Down a Hyper sonic missile

Only the USA Defense Department can confirm this Speculation
So Sleep Easier people Team America World Police are already on the Job

THAAD so far is more of a problematic project than anything else. They deploy it, but its usefulness is highly questionable.

Just like the US' mighty rocket shield to bring Kim Yung'un to his knees - all they have there today is the capability to take down one missile. Maybe. If lucky. Project is over 20 years old now. Main issue is that rockets versus rockets is by design super ineffective and hard to achieve. Its like throwing rocks at flying rocks.

So Russia successfully testing this kind of system, is the same as North Korea telling the world they've now got nuclear missiles that can actually fly and guns that are actually loaded - Propaganda. Mostly for internal use, we are just the bystanders here, upholding the status quo.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Reminds me of Star wars defense program arguments from the Reagan era.

 

[Vayra86]

Reminds me of Star wars defense program arguments from the Reagan era.

That's the one I mentioned too, the missile shield is basically the implementation of it because satellite was never gonna work out 10 missile tests, 9 fails, 1 successful - so if anyone launches two nukes simultaneously, its 100% useless. If they fire one, it's 90% useless.

 

[r9]

It's ridiculous how much money are been spend for developing weapons.
Everybody is talking about peace while we spend money that can definitely be put to better use.
And developing weapons for peace is like fucking for virginity.

 

[dozenfury]

That's the one I mentioned too, the missile shield is basically the implementation of it because satellite was never gonna work out 10 missile tests, 9 fails, 1 successful - so if anyone launches two nukes simultaneously, its 100% useless. If they fire one, it's 90% useless.

It's not really designed for a large scale attack, more for rogue (Iran, NK) states launching a few. The numbers you are saying don't really apply since these were tests that happened over many years and gradually improved. That doesn't mean that 9 of 10 will miss. In a large scale world war with China or Russia the northern hemisphere would look like Mars regardless of missile or anti-missile tech just by sheer volume. The US from what I've read only has 36 interceptors and the big powers have thousands of warheads (China fewer, but larger ones).

As far as tech, post-breakup Russia has been pretty open about bragging about their tech, vs. the USSR which was super-secretive. I think that's due to their desire to export. The US is always quite a few years beyond anything even leaked, on top of the DARPA projects that leak. The SR-71 and stealth fighters were in use years before ever being made public, just for a couple of examples. It seems like the status quo right now is that, Russia bragging and being open about their latest military tech, and the US publically looking behind while quietly being ahead. In the cat and mouse game I'd rather be in that situation if war broke out. There isn't much advantage to having better tech if being open about it, since if the US announced they had anti-hypersonic missile defenses in use, it would just cause Russia to develop another generation to counter that. and so on.

 

[Vayra86]

It's not really designed for a large scale attack, more for rogue (Iran, NK) states launching a few. The numbers you are saying don't really apply since these were tests that happened over many years and gradually improved. That doesn't mean that 9 of 10 will miss. In a large scale world war with China or Russia the northern hemisphere would look like Mars regardless of missile or anti-missile tech just by sheer volume. The US from what I've read only has 36 interceptors and the big powers have thousands of warheads (China fewer, but larger ones).

That's the whole thing though - deterrence strategies only work if you can launch enough nukes to create a total wasteland. If you do not have the capability to do that you simply don't launch ever period, nor is any threat of doing so going to have any weight. That in itself makes any missile shield that can't stop EVERYTHING, inherently strategically useless.

If NK or Iran ever launched something they would launch many many warheads because it'll be the last thing they'll ever do - either last resort, response or first strike to achieve world domination. There aren't any other flavours.

Also keep in mind the possibility of launching many warheads of which the vast majority is a fake warhead - useless missile shield 101.

 

[dont whant to set it"']

It's ridiculous how much money are been spend for developing weapons.
Everybody is talking about peace while we spend money that can definitely be put to better use.
And developing weapons for peace is like fucking for virginity.

Yes it is ridiculous but sad story bro , I can't say much how more etc a one weapon costs but, because the money it's just a " how much did it cost if we put it in money(I'd like to come think of it as a fun fact).
Le: autospellcorctejjtfjdjsjwieiih-6-^_°^

 

[Vayra86]

It's ridiculous how much money are been spend for developing weapons.
Everybody is talking about peace while we spend money that can definitely be put to better use.
And developing weapons for peace is like fucking for virginity.

You only need one fool to pull the trigger, and this planet has many fools that would love to, this is the paradox of peace.

The moment the US dropped a couple of actual nukes, was the push the world needed to not ever engage into a world war until today.

Blame human nature, I guess

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

That's the one I mentioned too, the missile shield is basically the implementation of it because satellite was never gonna work out 10 missile tests, 9 fails, 1 successful - so if anyone launches two nukes simultaneously, its 100% useless. If they fire one, it's 90% useless.

The negative propaganda surrounding that is all pure fiction, you know the old misleading news route. From what i remember the tests were "mostly successful" according to live news, but paper news told a different story.

 

[jboydgolfer]

THAAD wont protect against this weapon.

 

[RejZoR]

I wish they'd spend all the money they spend now to fight each other, to deflect space objects that could potentially impact Earth...

 

[revin]

To your point - The information released to the public by DARPA or our Armed Forces is no where near current. What little they do release is exactly what they want the public to know.

This is so true. I worked on many projects from back in the 80's that led up to the newest mag launch and rail gun systems that we were working on when I retired in 2012.
Only after the "public" release of information was I able to even speak about a few years ago here at TPU in another thread.
The main unit I worked on was for the huge control system for the mag launch. Was the size of 3 7ft. refrigerators, all aluminum.
There is a LOT more in the works for the us security systems that is really advanced into the star wars future.

 

[medi01]

Cause S400 in Siria was so effective against US Tomahawks. (1983).
/grin

1966
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird

PS
Couldn't help...

 

[Sasqui]

This system at those speeds would likely require an extremely straight trajectory... Making it's path predictable thus making it easily tagged by a laser.

Not to mention that shifting the trajectory of an object moving that fast would be quite hard... it's called momentum.

 

[revin]

I remembered back in the '90's we were making "replacement parts" for the shuttle's.
Couldn't figure out why some had changed especially in size.
Turn's out it was the X37.
Some times you just never know what's what even right under your nose.
Remember that the DoD gave NASA 2 very high resolution satellites, it's not that they didn't need them, it's just a lot has advanced in the last decade or so.
I do know there's a lot more in the pipeline...................................................