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RX 470 and Q6700 or GTX 1050 Ti and Q6700

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I know that the RX 470 is infinitely better then the 1050 Ti, but the issue is that I don't want extreme bottlenecking. How much of a hit will the RX 470 take if I paired it with a Q6700. I can't overclock it with my motherboard as far as I know. Or should I go used and get something better but won't bottleneck anything. If so, what do you recommend. About my previous forum post, the 780 is rip.

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"infinitely"? o_O

20% more like it.

regardless of bottlenecking, i wouldnt recommend buying a cheaper GPU just to avoid it, what about buying the better GPU, then down the road upgrading CPU?that P.O.S. CPU needs to go anyway....upgrading that CPU to a modern CPU would be MUCH closer to an "infinitely" more powerful system
 
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Flip a coin... both will do the job for 1080p... depends on the price...

I am more concerned about your PSU kicking the bucket soon also... you should make an upgrade plan... starting with a new case PSU and new GPU. Then do the jump on a new platform.
 
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"infinitely"? o_O

20% more like it.

regardless of bottlenecking, i wouldnt recommend buying a cheaper GPU just to avoid it, what about buying the better GPU, then down the road upgrading CPU?that P.O.S. CPU needs to go anyway....upgrading that CPU to a modern CPU would be MUCH closer to an "infinitely" more powerful system
Eventually.

Flip a coin... both will do the job for 1080p... depends on the price...

I am more concerned about your PSU kicking the bucket soon also... you should make an upgrade plan... starting with a new case PSU and new GPU. Then do the jump on a new platform.
The RX 470 is $119.99 and so is the 1050 Ti. I want to buy the 470 but the Q6700 is an issue.
 
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The RX 470 is $119.99 and so is the 1050 Ti. I want to buy the 470 but the Q6700 is an issue.
Well then you have no reason not to buy the 470? I don't get your reasoning.
The 470 might not be much faster than the 1050 Ti in your current system, but it will be faster when you upgrade later on.

470 it is.

Don't worry about your PSU, the 470 uses half the power of a 780. But yeah, at some point down the line you might want a new PSU.

Edit: Now I realize how old that PSU must be, maybe time to swap after all.. and then there's the question if your system has Dell proprietary PSU - motherboard connectors.
 
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Q6700, you will be fine with the 470.

Before slaving in the new card ensure you have the most current motherboard bios, even if a beta bios is newer than that.

From what I am seeing, grab a 470 from Sapphire if not msi, or Asus for compatibility
 
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Q6700, you will be fine with the 470.

Before slaving in the new card ensure you have the most current motherboard bios, even if a beta bios is newer than that.

From what I am seeing, grab a 470 from Sapphire if not msi, or Asus for compatibility
I'll be buying a ASUS RX 470 from MicroCenter for $149.99 ($119.99 Rebate)

Well then you have no reason not to buy the 470? I don't get your reasoning.
The 470 might not be much faster than the 1050 Ti in your current system, but it will be faster when you upgrade later on.

470 it is.

Don't worry about your PSU, the 470 uses half the power of a 780. But yeah, at some point down the line you might want a new PSU.

Edit: Now I realize how old that PSU must be, maybe time to swap after all.. and then there's the question if your system has Dell proprietary PSU - motherboard connectors.
The PSU has both 6 pin connectors and I bought an Power SATA to 8 Pin (for the dead 780 :'( )
 
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I know that the RX 470 is infinitely better then the 1050 Ti,
I'm a bit confused

And i recommend Ryzen 5 when it will come out with GTX 1070. But w8 for the reviews. So far Ryzen 1800x is looking good.
 
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Buy the faster card and do a CPU+mobo+RAM upgrade later-on.
 
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Buy the faster card
Fast - er (by comparison to something else inferior) maybe. Fast? Never. There is nothing fast about about Rx 480.... i beg to differ the 470.
 
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If you plan to upgrade the CPU/platform soon grab the RX470 it's definitely faster , if not take to 1050ti , Nvidia's DX11 drivers are easier on the CPU. Although I should mention it might be a little bit of downgrade from the 780 if you go the Nvidia route.
 
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The RX470 for 119.99$ is a steal. Grab it and forget about the GTX1050Ti. I mean, if it were 20$ cheaper, there might be a point to it, but as it is? RX470 all the way.
 
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That phenom bottlenecks heavy gpu,for amd gpus u need power cpu,nvidia on the other side can play well with amd cpu
 
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That phenom bottlenecks heavy gpu,for amd gpus u need power cpu, nvidia on the other side can play well with amd cpu
Can't say I buy this...

If I put an AMD card and NVIDIA card that perform close to the same, they will both lose some FPS when using an older gen AMD CPU. There really isn't a significant enough resource difference between the cards/drivers to warrant much of a difference outside of margin of error.

Or.. maybe I'm wrong.. got any links to support you?
 
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If you plan to upgrade the CPU/platform soon grab the RX470 , if not take to 1050ti , Nvidia's DX11 drivers are easier on the CPU.
The RX470 for 119.99$ is a steal. Grab it and forget about the GTX1050Ti. I mean, if it were 20$ cheaper, there might be a point to it, but as it is? RX470 all the way.
The rebated price of the RX470 is 120$
The actual price is 150$
http://www.microcenter.com/product/468281/Radeon_RX_470_ROG_STRIX_Overclocked_4GB_GDDR5_Video_Card
 

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Q6700 still has some power, relevant to a modern i3. especially overclocked they're still better than an AMD FX*

*1: With DDR3 ram
*2 If games dont need SSE 4.2 or newer

Due to the relatively 'weak' CPU, i recommend the Nvidia card as they've got lower driver overheads.
 

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Q6700 still has some power, relevant to a modern i3. especially overclocked they're still better than an AMD FX*

*1: With DDR3 ram
*2 If games dont need SSE 4.2 or newer

Due to the relatively 'weak' CPU, i recommend the Nvidia card as they've got lower driver overheads.
Only Orochi they do, Vishera compete with Haswell.
 
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@EarthDog Due to the relatively 'weak' CPU, i recommend the Nvidia card as they've got lower driver overheads.

Mussels got yout answer.
My RX 480 performs way better with Skylake then with FX and GTX 1060 performs better with FX then with RX480.
 
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@EarthDog Due to the relatively 'weak' CPU, i recommend the Nvidia card as they've got lower driver overheads.

Mussels got yout answer.
My RX 480 performs way better with Skylake then with FX and GTX 1060 performs better with FX then with RX480.
As i said, I'd love to see a link of this happening more than a negligible amount...I haven't heard of that before.
 
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Storage 960 EVO Series 250GB/ST2000DM006 | Corsair 120GB/ST1000DM003| HyperX Fury 120GB/ST1000DM003
Display(s) Acer Gaming Predator XB1 XB271HB | AOC AG241QX/LG 22MP68VQ-P | BenQ GL2250HM
Case NZXT S340 Elite Matte Black | NZXT S340 Black | DeepCool Tesseract SW
Audio Device(s) Realtek® ALC1220/Z906 | Realtek® ALC892/Z533 | Realtek® ALC892/Z533
Power Supply RM650i 650W 80+ Gold | CX750M 80+ Bronze | Sirtec 80+ Bronze 500 W
Mouse Logitech G502 | ASUS ROG GX 1000 | Natec Genesis GX78
Keyboard Logitech G910 |Hama uRage Illuminated | SERIOUX Keriam
Software W10 Pro x64 | W10 Pro x64 | W10 Pro x64
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Then ask Intel and AMD to make some for u,Especially! :D

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