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Hello!

I'm currently debating with myself whether to get the RX580 and a 27" Freesync monitor or wait for a price drop on the 1070 or just grab a 60 with a regular 1080p monitor. Reason I'm going for these options is because I'm doing a build for the wife (surprise) and I want to put my current 970 in her build and upgrade to one of these options. Normally I would opt for the most fps in my price range but the fact that I need a new monitor is going to set me back at least another $200. Plus, I can't afford a gsync monitor, which makes me less bullish on a 1070. What are the peanut gallery's thoughts?
 
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Save money and buy flower,take wife dinner outside,keep the 970 it will make wife more happy and good relationship :)
 
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lol what an answer:) but there is a lot of sense to this :)
 
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My wife is gamer too! She likes Rocket League, Diablo 3 and World of Warships. I have an old Radeon 6950 to throw in the build but that thing is beyond dated and I know she would get a ton out of the 970.
 
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My opinion - Fastsync. Maxwell plus do this amazing thing. So just buy the nicest screen in your budget, sit back/forward and enjoy.
 

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If you really want to upgrade, definitily go for a GTX1070 hands down, later-on you can buy a 1440p monitor or upgrade to 1080 / 1440 g-sync later-on.
A RX580 is a 1080p card, no real need for a freesync monitor here if you play your games with eye-candy settings (AA much and such) because you won't see your fps going much over 60fps anyway.(unless you lower the ingame settings). Ok it helps with fps below 60 as well ofcourse...

Anyway, I would go with a GTX1070.
 
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Difficult decision...I would go for a 580 and a 27inch Freesync monitor if it is a 1080p and not 1440p as the 580 is struggling at 1440p.
 
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If you really want to upgrade, definitily go for a GTX1070 hands down, later-on you can buy a 1440p monitor or upgrade to 1080 / 1440 g-sync later-on.
A RX580 is a 1080p card, no real need for a freesync monitor here if you play your games with eye-candy settings (AA much and such) because you won't see your fps going much over 60fps anyway.(unless you lower the ingame settings). Ok it helps with fps below 60 as well ofcourse...

Anyway, I would go with a GTX1070.
Is there somewhere near me i Can get whatever crack your on, a 580 is a 1080p card ,stop chatting shit.
I half see your 1070 opinion but nah mate I don't agree.
If you're updating monitor dont get 1080p.
Why get last 6 years tech for next five ,thats pure ass.
Get a 1440p monitor , i have freesync and like it ,it works well but isn't an issue at 1440p for one 580 it will do 60fps+ in all but a very few games at very high settings ,ive tried i get low fps from one at 4k but 1440p it does well, the few being the likes of prey and mankind divided which is due to the games and the same result for one 1070.
If it were me id get a pretty decent 1440p monitor even if without freesync though its marginally worth it(there are other avenues to smooth frames obv) and either card would do fine , a 1070 is not that far ahead of a 580 at 1440p so it is a personal choice and wallet thing.
Be sure im not saying don't get a 1070 just that a 580 would do fine and not as bad as he's saying.
But for the love of your eye's don't sidegrade to another 1080p , ive two 4 ks n im never going back ,i think few do , you just lust for more gpu.
 

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Simply said: Just buy the fastest graphics card you can afford, you can always upgrade your monitor later-on.
 
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Is there somewhere near me i Can get whatever crack your on, a 580 is a 1080p card ,stop chatting shit.
I half see your 1070 opinion but nah mate I don't agree.
If you're updating monitor dont get 1080p.
Why get last 6 years tech for next five ,thats pure ass.
Get a 1440p monitor , i have freesync and like it ,it works well but isn't an issue at 1440p for one 580 it will do 60fps+ in all but a very few games at very high settings ,ive tried i get low fps from one at 4k but 1440p it does well, the few being the likes of prey and mankind divided which is due to the games and the same result for one 1070.
If it were me id get a pretty decent 1440p monitor even if without freesync though its marginally worth it(there are other avenues to smooth frames obv) and either card would do fine , a 1070 is not that far ahead of a 580 at 1440p so it is a personal choice and wallet thing.
Be sure im not saying don't get a 1070 just that a 580 would do fine and not as bad as he's saying.
But for the love of your eye's don't sidegrade to another 1080p , ive two 4 ks n im never going back ,i think few do , you just lust for more gpu.
Bloody hell mate that was a rant. However I agree with every word of it. Tasty screen first. That's the thing.
 
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@P4-630 Says the man stuck at 1080p looking to buy a 1440p soon lolz
Trust me your gpu is wasting time shifting high res textures to a 1080p screen. It will look better ,but you can't see what its supposed to look like i assure you.
 
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Simply said: Just buy the fastest graphics card you can afford, you can always upgrade your monitor later-on.
Disagree entirely. Nicest screen first because cards are changing fast and our eyes are not.
 

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In fact I get it tomorrow HA!! 1440p G-Sync. :rolleyes:
You will see tomorrow, stop passing out opinion as experience for now then eh.
 

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You will see tomorrow, stop passing out opinion as experience for now then eh.
I already had the 1440p gaming experience as well, it was really good. :)

Anyways, I have updated my system specs.
 
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1440p isn't a priority for me now mostly because of budget. More or less with the money I'm looking to spend it's either a $500 monitor or gfx card and I would rather invest in the card because I feel a little silly paying that much for a sub 30" monitor when I bought a 65" Samsung 4k TV for $1200 last year.

Does anyone have extensive use of a gsync or Freesync monitor to say how good it is to have that feature or not?
 

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G-Sync certainly makes games feel smoother, you can especially feel it in the camera movements. It also eliminates tearing without the downsides that comes with traditional v-sync. Though you'll still want to aim for high frame-rates because low frame-rates will steel feel sluggish, even with G-Sync.

You'll also want to cap your in-game frame-rate below your monitor's refresh rate (138 Hz for my XL2420G) so G-Sync will stay on.
 
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http://www.pcgamer.com/amds-freesync-2-displays-will-require-low-latency-and-hdr-in-2017/

This article makes me hesitant to splurge on a high end monitor. How many displays support HDR? I know my TV does but can't say I've seen many monitors do especially in my price range.
As i said i have a freesync monitor and a 4k hdr tv , hdr is shit tbh , its great in comparison to a normal telly but there's not much to play on it yet , worse than 4k so don't sweat it , my freesync monitor is not hdr but like many, supports full and studio Rgb which in the end is useable by everything and to my eyes looks as good as hdr atm if not better.
If you can get enough fps freesync and gsync are less important and negated to a degree , a good 1440p with vsync on driven at 60fps by enough gpu and your not missing out.
 
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As i said i have a freesync monitor and a 4k hdr tv , hdr is shit tbh , its great in comparison to a normal telly but there's not much to play on it yet , worse than 4k so don't sweat it , my freesync monitor is not hdr but like many, supports full and studio Rgb which in the end is useable by everything and to my eyes looks as good as hdr atm if not better.
If you can get enough fps freesync and gsync are less important and negated to a degree , a good 1440p with vsync on driven at 60fps by enough gpu and your not missing out.
TBH, I'm attracted to Freesync because of the lower cost. From what I see I'm only paying at most about $50 to get a Freesync monitor vs a comparable monitor without it. Whereas a gsync will easily be double...

A Freesync monitor and RX580 will run me about $500, be a slight upgrade to the GTX 970 and I'll be about to enjoy the new feature. A 1070 and gsync will run maybe $900-1000 and while it will be better I can't say it will be worth it in the end especially for 1080p gaming. I suppose 1440p could justify the cost somewhat but I wonder how well the 1070 will hold up down the road at that resolution. Makes me think to wait for the Pascal refresh down the road.
 
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want Freesync? wait for vega card

want Gsync? get 1070 for fastsync
 
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I am currently in a similar position where I want to get a cheaper 27" 1440p Freesync monitor, but more of the problem is the upcoming Freesync 2 that is rarely talked about. The only panel makers that expressed explicit interest was for TV's and it was Samsung and LG, because Project Scorpio was going to support FS2.

I am wondering if all GCN GPU's made after Tonga will support both FS and FS2. And is there any other major improvents worth waiting for other than HDR.
 
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I am currently in a similar position where I want to get a cheaper 27" 1440p Freesync monitor, but more of the problem is the upcoming Freesync 2 that is rarely talked about. The only panel makers that expressed explicit interest was for TV's and it was Samsung and LG, because Project Scorpio was going to support FS2.

I am wondering if all GCN GPU's made after Tonga will support both FS and FS2. And is there any other major improvents worth waiting for other than HDR.
Same here. If I wasn't in the position of using my current setup in putting together my wife's I wouldn't consider an upgrade at this point. I'm trying to keep her rig respectable too instead of dishing out on lower end components.
 
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