Ryzen 3000 Leaks

[xkm1948]

AdoredTV is laughing all the way to the bank.

Step one: make shit up
Step two: hype the AMD community into hyper drive
Step three: watch the subscriber count goes up
Step four: profit

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/adoredtv/monthly

Watch his stats around the last few days.

AdoredTV, more like ConTV

 

[TheLostSwede]

I still think its going to be a most a 8core CPU with this Ryzen 3000 series just clocked higher, better IPC and a single CCX

Well, I can tell you for a fact that you're wrong there.

 

[Melvis]

Well, I can tell you for a fact that you're wrong there.

Which part? and please link me to your facts.

I do remember reading on this forum months ago that the new CCX units are going to be 8core each.

 

[GoldenX]

Which part? and please link me to your facts.

I do remember reading on this forum months ago that the new CCX units are going to be 8core each.

For Threadripper/EPYC, it's not confirmed for Ryzen.

 

[HTC]

For Threadripper/EPYC, it's not confirmed for Ryzen.

As far as we know, the same chiplet concept is going to be used for pretty much all of AMD's lineup, much like current current CCXs for Zen / Zen + chips: as such, if Threadripper's / Epyc's use them, so will AM4's. What is uncertain is the IO portion on AM4's platform: still unknown, @ this time.

According to Kyle Bennet from [H]ardOCP, regarding Adored's video:

There is a whole lot of reality in that video. A lot. There is a little wrong, but not a lot.

https://hardforum.com/threads/adore...on-3000-series-leaks.1973015/#post-1043970615

 

[TheLostSwede]

Which part? and please link me to your facts.

I do remember reading on this forum months ago that the new CCX units are going to be 8core each.

It's going to be impossible to link you to any facts, but I'm telling you, you're wrong and then you can chose to believe me or not, as I know for a fact that your first belief is wrong. What I don't know, is what will be announced when, but as I posted elsewhere, there's truth to all the rumours, but as to what is true and as to what is not... Time will tell. I think most people will be a bit surprised with what AMD has coming, I was. I have a feeling that a lot of people will be upgrading their motherboards, alongside getting a new CPU. I really wish I could spill the beans, but it's way too early.

 

[Final_Fighter]

given the fact that epyc rome is 8 core per ccx its easy to see amd make a 16 core part. also i think amd will cannibalize its tr4 socket because they are not exactly the best selling parts. something else that does not get to much attention is the potential refinement of the infinity fabric. then there is the possibility of running some sort of high speed edram like the i7-5775c did. using a high frequency module as a buffer for the infinity fabric could also bring overall latency down. tho making adjustments to this edram module may require a new board to simpy adjust its frequency but the new chips will work with existing am4 boards just they cant adjust the edram.

edit: this along with the ipc increase and frequency bump will make it a very appealing product as long as the price does not get out of control.

just some random thoughts on the matter. i always thought that running a edram would help with the high latency. maybe that big extra die in the middle of the rome proc has some sort of onboard ram for this very purpose.

 

[R0H1T]

Which part? and please link me to your facts.

I do remember reading on this forum months ago that the new CCX units are going to be 8core each.

That's kind of irrelevant because there's nearly 100% chance that (mainstream) desktop CPU & APU will not be monolithic dies. They will be MCM just like the current lineup & will have a separate I/O die with MC & possibly L4 cache. 16 cores makes sense because AMD is fighting the "moar core" wars & they're winning.

 

[Melvis]

It's going to be impossible to link you to any facts, but I'm telling you, you're wrong and then you can chose to believe me or not, as I know for a fact that your first belief is wrong. What I don't know, is what will be announced when, but as I posted elsewhere, there's truth to all the rumours, but as to what is true and as to what is not... Time will tell. I think most people will be a bit surprised with what AMD has coming, I was. I have a feeling that a lot of people will be upgrading their motherboards, alongside getting a new CPU. I really wish I could spill the beans, but it's way too early.

Well if you cant link me to any facts but your telling me im wrong and your saying it is fact what your saying but cant actually prove to any of us that it is then im sorry I dont buy what your selling. Its like me saying I know for a fact that im right and you just gotta believe me that I am, even if I cant prove that to you, see what Im getting at here? It cant be fact if you cant back it up with evidence.....

That's kind of irrelevant because there's nearly 100% chance that (mainstream) desktop CPU & APU will not be monolithic dies. They will be MCM just like the current lineup & will have a separate I/O die with MC & possibly L4 cache. 16 cores makes sense because AMD is fighting the "moar core" wars & they're winning.

You do realize that the current CCX for Zen 2 are 8core CCX's right? It doesnt make sense actually because they have threadripper to fight the "moar core" war and already led the way on the main stream desktop for cores till only just a month ago or so. I cant see them butchering there threadripper platform and making it a pointless platform for people to buy into when they can just get a AM4 socket and get the same amount of cores for less, it just doesnt add up. Yes its possible but I dont think they will do it.

 

[R0H1T]

Well if you cant link me to any facts but your telling me im wrong and your saying it is fact what your saying but cant actually prove to any of us that it is then im sorry I dont buy what your selling. Its like me saying I know for a fact that im right and you just gotta believe me that I am, even if I cant prove that to you, see what Im getting at here? It cant be fact if you cant back it up with evidence.....



You do realize that the current CCX for Zen 2 are 8core CCX's right? It doesnt make sense actually because they have threadripper to fight the "moar core" war and already led the way on the main stream desktop for cores till only just a month ago or so. I cant see them butchering there threadripper platform and making it a pointless platform for people to buy into when they can just get a AM4 socket and get the same amount of cores for less, it just doesnt add up. Yes its possible but I dont think they will do it.

No they're 8 core "chiplets" while CCX is different ~

This distinction is important because IMO AMD can't use an 8 core CCX for notebook or embedded chips, that's a huge market & having different CCX layouts could potentially be more expensive for AMD to work with, not to mention designing (entire) chips with them is more complicated. Do note that CCX layout isn't revealed for Zen2 but that might happen at CES.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Well if you cant link me to any facts but your telling me im wrong and your saying it is fact what your saying but cant actually prove to any of us that it is then im sorry I dont buy what your selling. Its like me saying I know for a fact that im right and you just gotta believe me that I am, even if I cant prove that to you, see what Im getting at here? It cant be fact if you cant back it up with evidence.....

You do realize that the current CCX for Zen 2 are 8core CCX's right? It doesnt make sense actually because they have threadripper to fight the "moar core" war and already led the way on the main stream desktop for cores till only just a month ago or so. I cant see them butchering there threadripper platform and making it a pointless platform for people to buy into when they can just get a AM4 socket and get the same amount of cores for less, it just doesnt add up. Yes its possible but I dont think they will do it.

Well, I guess you don't know who I am, so that's understandable. That said, you're still off the mark, hopefully you'll be happy with what is launched though.
You should look up where I live and that might give you a better understanding of what I'm saying actually means something.

I don't work for AMD and what may or may not make sense for them, is not for me to say. I took the video as pure BS to start with as well, but it turns out he's gotten some good info. Is it all correct? No. But it's far from all wrong as well. Keep in mind that cores isn't everything that matters, that said, PCIe 4.0 will make the AM4 platform a lot more attractive to consumers. I would go as far as to say that most of the wrongs with the platform have been righted. I really wish I could share more, but it could get people in trouble and I don't want, it's so awkward. I do hope you remember what I said when AMD launches their new products though, which is unlikely to be as soon as the vide suggests btw. AMD might even stretch things out until the end of 2019 to have some new things here and there to keep people excited/upset about...