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Well you bought the 16 core...

a nearly $400 mobo..

Have a 2080 ti...

pairing it with budget ram seems kinda like a disservice lol.

I would still get back to 3600 16-19-19-39 at a min.
Hoping, is 1800 MHz IF considered an OverClock and that potentially some 3950Xs might not be able to achieve it?

if i can't get the G.Skill kits to work, it seems i'm going to look toward Corsair
 
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Hoping, is 1800 MHz IF considered an OverClock and that potentially some 3950Xs might not be able to achieve it?

if i can't get the G.Skill kits to work, it seems i'm going to look toward Corsair
I don't have the buildzoid video link on hand but I don't think I've ever seen any considerations with IF speed and the word overclock. Overclock is more associated with with DRAM frequency and CPU frequency.
 
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Hoping, is 1800 MHz IF considered an OverClock and that potentially some 3950Xs might not be able to achieve it?

if i can't get the G.Skill kits to work, it seems i'm going to look toward Corsair

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Also you need to OC that 2080 ti.... you should be able to get within 500 points of my 16000 Graphics score.....
 
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For gaming specifically there isn't a difference at 1440P going from 3200 14-14-14-28 to 3800 16-16-16-32 in any game I've tested you'd need to drop to 720p with your 2080 ti to get gains..... Higher latency ram i cannot speak for but the looser your timings the more a higher FCLK will help you I would imagine.

You seem to game at 60hz not sure what else you do but even the 3000 corsair kit you have will be more than enough for that.
As discussed at length in a different thread, it depends on the game. Some games love fast memory/low latency whereas most games don't seem to care too much.
In all fairness, the difference at 1080p is something like 15-20fps in worst case/extreme ends of the scale scenarios and if the OP has a 2080 Ti, he's not going to suffer...

Have a look see here.

Hoping, is 1800 MHz IF considered an OverClock and that potentially some 3950Xs might not be able to achieve it?

if i can't get the G.Skill kits to work, it seems i'm going to look toward Corsair
I would not go with Corsair, as a lot of people, myself partially included, have had big issues with their RAM paired with Ryzen CPUs.
It might be fine if it's a current revision memory kit, but if you buy online, you don't know what you're getting.
Safe bet would be Hynix CJR modules, like the Patriot Viper Steel modules I have or something from Kingston.
Why aren't you RMAing the kit you have?
 
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As discussed at length in a different thread, it depends on the game. Some games love fast memory/low latency whereas most games don't seem to care too much.
In all fairness, the difference at 1080p is something like 15-20fps in worst case/extreme ends of the scale scenarios and if the OP has a 2080 Ti, he's not going to suffer...

Have a look see here.


I would not go with Corsair, as a lot of people, myself partially included, have had big issues with their RAM paired with Ryzen CPUs.
It might be fine if it's a current revision memory kit, but if you buy online, you don't know what you're getting.
Safe bet would be Hynix CJR modules, like the Patriot Viper Steel modules I have or something from Kingston.
Why aren't you RMAing the kit you have?
RMA process is started, submitted request earlier today, waiting for their response now
 
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As discussed at length in a different thread, it depends on the game. Some games love fast memory/low latency whereas most games don't seem to care too much.
In all fairness, the difference at 1080p is something like 15-20fps in worst case/extreme ends of the scale scenarios and if the OP has a 2080 Ti, he's not going to suffer...

Have a look see here.


I would not go with Corsair, as a lot of people, myself partially included, have had big issues with their RAM paired with Ryzen CPUs.
It might be fine if it's a current revision memory kit, but if you buy online, you don't know what you're getting.
Safe bet would be Hynix CJR modules, like the Patriot Viper Steel modules I have or something from Kingston.
Why aren't you RMAing the kit you have?

The testing was done at 1080p and they only tweaked 3800mhz ram same issue with hardware unboxed ram comparison they should be tweaking each speed to its lowest latency to get a good picture. Also the OP games at 4k meaning he will get zero benefit even coming from 2400mhz. The kit they used for 3800 is significantly better as far as timing vs what the majority of people have on this forum even slightly better than what mine can achieve with 4 dimms.

I loose nearly 30fps just doing XMP 3200 vs 3200 manually timings for example in some games... BfV/Gears 5

I wish someone who does this professionally would do a real comparison with the Same Bdie stick and tweak everything from 2400-3800 with the lowest timings at each speed to compare. I'm guessing the reason they don't is even if you bought 10 different kits of Bdie some could end up significantly worse than others... I suspect one of my bdie kits is slightly worse for example or it could be the 4 dimms hard to say.



https://www.techspot.com/review/1891-ryzen-memory-performance-scaling/

This is still the best one I've Read it shows a 3000 manual tuned kit beating a 3800 XMP kit.
 
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The testing was done at 1080p and they only tweaked 3800mhz ram same issue with hardware unboxed ram comparison they should be tweaking each speed to its lowest latency to get a good picture. Also the OP games at 4k meaning he will get zero benefit even coming from 2400mhz. The kit they used for 3800 is significantly better as far as timing vs what the majority of people have on this forum even slightly better than what mine can achieve with 4 dimms.

I loose nearly 30fps just doing XMP 3200 vs 3200 manually timings for example in some games... BfV/Gears 5

I wish someone who does this professionally would do a real comparison with the Same Bdie stick and tweak everything from 2400-3800 with the lowest timings at each speed to compare. I'm guessing the reason they don't is even if you bought 10 different kits of Bdie some could end up significantly worse than others... I suspect one of my bdie kits is slightly worse for example or it could be the 4 dimms hard to say.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1891-ryzen-memory-performance-scaling/

This is still the best one I've Read it shows a 3000 manual tuned kit beating a 3800 XMP kit.
Not saying it was a perfect test, but it's at least an indication of what people can expect...
Other tests like this only use limited sets of RAM or limited synthetic benchmarks.

Even the test you link to is far from complete, as they don't give enough details, like the DRAM chips used and they only provide details of the manual settings...
Admittedly this is a PITA thing to test, but if you're going to do it, at least document all the settings properly.
All the test are at 1080p again so...

Too many variables and obviously a lot of the module makers have minor revisions that often aren't even public...
XMP is once again for Intel and it seems that on AMD systems, it's possible to get superior results setting things up manually.
 
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Not saying it was a perfect test, but it's at least an indication of what people can expect...
Other tests like this only use limited sets of RAM or limited synthetic benchmarks.

Even the test you link to is far from complete, as they don't give enough details, like the DRAM chips used and they only provide details of the manual settings...
Admittedly this is a PITA thing to test, but if you're going to do it, at least document all the settings properly.
All the test are at 1080p again so...

Too many variables and obviously a lot of the module makers have minor revisions that often aren't even public...
XMP is once again for Intel and it seems that on AMD systems, it's possible to get superior results setting things up manually.
I agree the only reason the article is even remotely useful is it shows manually tuned 3000 vs just setting the XMP profile in bios and how bad it really is.
 
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see before with my X99 build i didn't buy higher end performance ram and honestly didn't even use XMP, so i was literally running 2133 MHz, so with this build i went out of my way to buy higher end memory with good timings

interesting thing is even at 2133 MHz I was pretty much a happy camper and none the wiser... didn't even know what XMP was to be honest, if i'm being honest... i'm not really into overclocking so i left those settings alone until now
As a relatively newcomer to Ryzen and ram overclocking myself (1yr) here are some thoughts based on my experiences over the year and what you have shared with us...

- If your not really into OC then when you get your replacement kit retry XMP, test it for stability using varying means (as you now have a grasp on it), and if no issues simply enjoy using your PC.
- If your not having any performance issues with your games, and your not really into chasing performance numbers, then simply enjoy using your PC - it's beefy - enjoy the beef.
- Beware of BIOS/UEFI updates as they can potentially bork your memory OC (this includes with XMP too) My advice here is if you do BIOS/UEFI update (reflash) for some reason then retest ram and for stability. I'm willing to bet AMD might push out at least one more AGESA update after 3950x settles a bit now that it is out in the wild and vendors begin to deal with compatibility and performance issues.

Genral Ryzen Tips

- Do not install with Windows 10 version 17.xx it may be unstable as hell even if you manage to get it to update. Instead use the newest Windows 10 USB stick image installation. Minimally version 18.09.
- Ryzen CPU all-core OC is generally not worth it. (there will be differences of public opinion on this for sure)
- Ryzen CPU CCX overclocking however is an interesting subject with the potential to run fewer cores at higher clocks while others run a lower clocks. If your a gamer and you need a bit higher frequency but not so many cores this may be an interesting subject for you.
- It's a good idea retest your memory OC if you do OC your CPU. The stability of CPU OC may effect the stability of the RAM OC.
- PBO is kind of useless don't bother with it.
- Update Windows to more recent version 19.xx so it works better with your CPU. One of these days MS will figure out how to optimize for the CPU properly.
- Update chipset drivers and keep an eye out for chipset driver updates that may improve your CPU usage.
- Window Power plan. There are two for Ryzen (balanced and high performance) when you install the chipset drivers. I believe there is also one out there for installation separately by the guy that brought us Dram Calculator for Ryzen that may be more optimized. Haven't had a chance to try it yet.
- Programs like iCue and Steam (probably some others too) have some not-so-optimal behavior that may stop your CPU cores from boosting to their peak values. You can force them to run on specific cores with software, simple OS commands, or even via task manager, so they won't interfere with the cores you want to use for gaming.
- Prior to the AGESA ABBA update I found turning off the preferred cores option in bios had improved clock boosting on all cores. This situation may have changed now AGESA 1.0.0.4 patch B is being rolled out to vendors. Also I don't have much corroboration or feedback on the effect of turning off preferred cores but you can observe the effect in HWiNFO64 and make the determination yourself if it looks like turning off this option improves your boosting frequencies for all your cores overall. Cinebench R15 and R20 may also show improved scores as it did in my case.
 
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As a relatively newcomer to Ryzen and ram overclocking myself (1yr) here are some thoughts based on my experiences over the year and what you have shared with us...

- If your not really into OC then when you get your replacement kit retry XMP, test it for stability using varying means (as you now have a grasp on it), and if no issues simply enjoy using your PC.
- If your not having any performance issues with your games, and your not really into chasing performance numbers, then simply enjoy using your PC - it's beefy - enjoy the beef.
- Beware of BIOS/UEFI updates as they can potentially bork your memory OC (this includes with XMP too) My advice here is if you do BIOS/UEFI update (reflash) for some reason then retest ram and for stability. I'm willing to bet AMD might push out at least one more AGESA update after 3950x settles a bit now that it is out in the wild and vendors begin to deal with compatibility and performance issues.

Genral Ryzen Tips

- Do not install with Windows 10 version 17.xx it may be unstable as hell even if you manage to get it to update. Instead use the newest Windows 10 USB stick image installation. Minimally version 18.09.
- Ryzen CPU all-core OC is generally not worth it. (there will be differences of public opinion on this for sure)
- Ryzen CPU CCX overclocking however is an interesting subject with the potential to run fewer cores at higher clocks while others run a lower clocks. If your a gamer and you need a bit higher frequency but not so many cores this may be an interesting subject for you.
- It's a good idea retest your memory OC if you do OC your CPU. The stability of CPU OC may effect the stability of the RAM OC.
- PBO is kind of useless don't bother with it.
- Update Windows to more recent version 19.xx so it works better with your CPU. One of these days MS will figure out how to optimize for the CPU properly.
- Update chipset drivers and keep an eye out for chipset driver updates that may improve your CPU usage.
- Window Power plan. There are two for Ryzen (balanced and high performance) when you install the chipset drivers. I believe there is also one out there for installation separately by the guy that brought us Dram Calculator for Ryzen that may be more optimized. Haven't had a chance to try it yet.
- Programs like iCue and Steam (probably some others too) have some not-so-optimal behavior that may stop your CPU cores from boosting to their peak values. You can force them to run on specific cores with software, simple OS commands, or even via task manager, so they won't interfere with the cores you want to use for gaming.
- Prior to the AGESA ABBA update I found turning off the preferred cores option in bios had improved clock boosting on all cores. This situation may have changed now AGESA 1.0.0.4 patch B is being rolled out to vendors. Also I don't have much corroboration or feedback on the effect of turning off preferred cores but you can observe the effect in HWiNFO64 and make the determination yourself if it looks like turning off this option improves your boosting frequencies for all your cores overall. Cinebench R15 and R20 may also show improved scores as it did in my case.
I'm using Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.18363.476]


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Should be acceptable then if I’m interpreting correctly or am I mistaken?
Very much so and no, you're not mistaken, as it's the very latest version.
 
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ust uncovered a horribly buggy Sonic 3 Audio suite taking up crazy amounts of ram:


[5:54 PM]
erek:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/785245749146995198/2731EFEFE5D0DC41F1B5258FAC52B65FDD1DE836/
Windows successfully diagnosed a low virtual memory condition. The following programs consumed the most virtual memory: NahimicService.exe (7056) consumed 11528499200 bytes, chrome.exe (10992) consumed 1243463680 bytes, and steamwebhelper.exe (2740) consumed 545935360 bytes.
[6:03 PM]
XXX:
https://www.google.com/search?q=NahimicService.exe&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS866US866&oq=NahimicService.exe&aqs=chrome..69i57.409171j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
So go google, fix your shit.
I can't help you, because I can't reproduce the problem;
Though an audio service consuming 11.5GB of ram means your shit is pretty fucked up. I'd rip out everything audio related, over and over, until you're at bare metal, and then lay down newest/best tested drivers.
[6:06 PM]
erek:
heh
[6:11 PM]
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https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?107802-Nahimic-Service-causing-programs-to-startup-slow/page2

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do you guys move all of your Page File System / Virtual Memory to spinners these days? you know to reduce wear and tear on the SSDs?
 
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No, even my 5+ year old ssd aren't anywhere near their write limits.... also I can easily replace them if neccessary. If you buy a decent high end ssd with a 5 year warranty I wouldn't worry too much if at all about the page file.



All of Asus software is pretty bad I don't use any if it. This pretty much goes for every motherboard manufacturer though.
 
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do you guys move all of your Page File System / Virtual Memory to spinners these days? you know to reduce wear and tear on the SSDs?
I typically always moved my page file to a 2nd drive before SSD's were on the scene. Not so important these days with SSD being as fast as they are.
 
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Well you bought the 16 core...

a nearly $400 mobo..

Have a 2080 ti...

pairing it with budget ram seems kinda like a disservice lol.

I would still get back to 3600 16-19-19-39 at a min.
Oh gosh, don't say that. I said that 11 pages ago and got chewed out. Let's not forget the 8 year old PSU that had more dust in it than USA's gold supply at Fort Knox.
 
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Oh gosh, don't say that. I said that 11 pages ago and got chewed out. Let's not forget the 8 year old PSU that had more dust in it than USA's gold supply at Fort Knox.
Well Ram just like another topic can be pretty contentious some people will say don't spend over $70 others will say 3200/3600 Bdie or nothing.


I say just balance the build.... if every thing is already high end buy at least 3600 16-19-19-39 ram with preferably 16-16-16-36 but I'm not the OP only he can decide what makes the most sense. I like to take any variables out of the equation when it comes to performance so I will typically slightly overspend to make sure no one component isn't up to par this is going to vary significantly user to user. My guess is he had his heart set on a 3950X and a Crosshair 8 hero and 32GB of ram leaving Bdie off the table or else he likely would have grabbed a low latency kit.

Either way regardless he has a very high performing PC that will last him for years that I'm sure once he gets his ram kit sorted out he will enjoy very much.

As far as his psu goes if it still works I'd use it as well the AX1200 doesn't perform that differently than a modern Gold unit and given its age that's pretty impressive. I have a XFX seasonic unit in my brothers 6700k/1080 ti PC that still works just fine its almost a decade old.
 
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Definitely recommend Crosshair VIII Hero. If you want to save some cash, the ROG Strix X570-E is a decent choice, too, for its 6-layer PCB and equally feature-rich BIOS.

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Can you help me with air flow design? here's my current setup, imagine two fans mounted on the top


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I would do front intake with top and rear exhaust.

Do you not have top fans? Hard to tell on my phone in the pic.
 
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I would do front intake with top and rear exhaust.

Do you not have top fans? Hard to tell on my phone in the pic.
i do have those additional fans, but the pic doesn't show them, it's an older pic
 
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i do have those additional fans, but the pic doesn't show them, it's an older pic
Both my systems are set up identically 3 front intake fans and 3 top/rear exhaust fans... this has worked excellently in both my cases evolv X/ 500D se. I would play around with different setups to see what works best for your case.


The evolv X radiator is top mounted.
The 500D se is front mounted.
 
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