Ryzen 3950X Build Help

erek · Sep 4, 2019

oxrufiioxo said:
Unless you plan on keeping your current system up and running I would try the ram you already have first and see if you can tighten the timings up with the Dram Calculator.

And if that doesn't work out only then would I grab something like this.

G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GTZN - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GTZN with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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I think sticking with 2 dimms is your best bet as the majority of people I see having issues with memory on ryzen 3000 have 4 dimms.

what about CL14 2x16GB G.SKILL Trident Z Neo? that's what we really need, right?

Nordic · Sep 4, 2019

erek said:
what about CL14 2x16GB G.SKILL Trident Z Neo? that's what we really need, right?

If you want the best of the best...

oxrufiioxo · Sep 4, 2019

erek said:
what about CL14 2x16GB G.SKILL Trident Z Neo? that's what we really need, right?

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They don't come in 16GB dimms. I would also recommend the 3200 CL14 16GBx2 the performance difference if any is going to be small.

Again this is only if your memory either doesn't work or you can't get tight timings with it. I would definitely stick with Samsung Bdie regardless of what kit you choose to purchase.

erek · Sep 4, 2019

oxrufiioxo said:
They don't come in 16GB dimms. I would also recommend the 3200 CL14 16GBx2 the performance difference if any is going to be small.

Again this is only if your memory either doesn't work or you can't get tight timings with it. I would definitely stick with Samsung Bdie regardless of what kit you choose to purchase.

My current kit is 4x8GB 2400 MHz CL16 ... (Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB Kit (8GBx4) DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) CL16 DR x8 Unbuffered DIMM 288-Pin Memory BLS4K8G4D240FSA )

oxrufiioxo · Sep 4, 2019

erek said:
My current kit is 4x8GB 2400 MHz CL16 ... (Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB Kit (8GBx4) DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) CL16 DR x8 Unbuffered DIMM 288-Pin Memory BLS4K8G4D240FSA )

The goal would be to get it to around 3000mhz with decent timings.. I would definitely give that a shot first before spending $2-300 on memory.

Worst case scenario you have to buy an awesome kit of ram for your new 16 core CPU.

erek · Sep 4, 2019

oxrufiioxo said:
The goal would be to get it to around 3000mhz with decent timings.. I would definitely give that a shot first before spending $2-300 on memory.

Worst case scenario you have to buy an awesome kit of ram for your new 16 core CPU.

heh with those Trident Z Neos it'd be closer to $600

CL14 4x8GB 3600 MHz = ~ 580 USD

oxrufiioxo · Sep 4, 2019

erek said:
heh with those Trident Z Neos it'd be closer to $600

CL14 4x8GB 3600 MHz = ~ 580 USD

That kit would definitely not be worth the money.....

over this

G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16Q-32GTZN - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16Q-32GTZN with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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or this

G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18Q-64GTZN - Newegg.com

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Given the choice I would stay away from 4 dimms and go with 2x16gb of 3600 16-16-16-36

TheLostSwede · Sep 4, 2019

I'm just going to throw this out there, since we're discussing RAM here...

Ryzen Above: Best Memory Settings for AMD's 3000 CPUs, Tested

Is Ryzen 3000 optimized for DDR4-3200? What if we want more? We examine everything from frequency to rank count to nail down optimal settings.

www.tomshardware.com

It seems like an odd conclusion though, but apparently four DIMMs are faster...
I'd like to see some testing from other sites on this as well, as I'm not convinced.

KhakiKukhi · Sep 4, 2019

TheLostSwede said:
This is my $89 (equivalent local price converted) RAM. It's running way beyond my expectations and rated spec.
This is on a 3800X though, so you'd get higher writes on a 3900X or a 3950X.

Just FYI, a lot of people have reported having issues with Corsair RAM and Ryzen 3000. I also tested my old RAM, which was Corsair and it would not run at its rated speed of 3200MHz on the same setup.

How did you get your AIDA64 running like that?
Mine says "TRAIL VERSION."

Toothless · Sep 4, 2019

KhakiKukhi said:
How did you get your AIDA64 running like that?
Mine says "TRAIL VERSION."
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Buy it

erek · Sep 5, 2019

heh, so regarding "waiting":

G.Skill Releases 64GB (8GBx8) Memory Kits in DDR4-4300 CL19 & DDR4-4000 CL16

G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd., the world's leading manufacturer of extreme performance memory and gaming peripherals, is excited to announce high-frequency, high-capacity memory kit specifications to the G.SKILL Trident Z Royal series at DDR4-4300 MHz CL19-19-19-39 and DDR4-4000 MHz...

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GN just released this:

also Budget 570 board VRMs might not be up to the task of handling the 3950X because some are already struggling with the 3900X

erek · Sep 6, 2019

Best AMD Motherboards: Holiday 2022

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Calmmo · Sep 6, 2019

TheLostSwede said:
I'm just going to throw this out there, since we're discussing RAM here...

Ryzen Above: Best Memory Settings for AMD's 3000 CPUs, Tested

Is Ryzen 3000 optimized for DDR4-3200? What if we want more? We examine everything from frequency to rank count to nail down optimal settings.

www.tomshardware.com

It seems like an odd conclusion though, but apparently four DIMMs are faster...
I'd like to see some testing from other sites on this as well, as I'm not convinced.

They didn't test dual rank modules. 2x16 would probably be slightly faster than 4x8 single rank on AMD's Fly-By optimized MC

TheLostSwede · Sep 6, 2019

Calmmo said:
They didn't test dual rank modules. 2x16 would probably be slightly faster than 4x8 single rank on AMD's Fly-By optimized MC

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erek · Sep 7, 2019

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Zach_01 · Sep 7, 2019

oxrufiioxo said:
Given the choice I would stay away from 4 dimms and go with 2x16gb of 3600 16-16-16-36

Cannot agree more...
Less modules = less stress on CPU’s UMC (unified memory controller)

thesmokingman · Sep 15, 2019

AX1200? You might as well get the assrock full waterblocked MB.

erek · Sep 15, 2019

thesmokingman said:
AX1200? You might as well get the assrock full waterblocked MB.

i've had the AX1200 for years now though... back in 2011

erek · Sep 18, 2019

Wavetrex said:
Keep your money in the bank ahead of time.

There is no way of knowing, really !
Maybe 3950X can work with 4000 Mhz RAM with 1:1 IF speed (2000 Mhz), something that the already released ones cannot (they top out at 1900)

Also, by the time 3950X is on the market, more memory models might launch, and prices could vary a lot.
However, I'm almost convinced that the best DIMMs will still use Samsung chips, that can do CL14 at 3600 without breaking a sweat. That Corsair you linked is C18 ... eww.

I really don't understand why waste your brain effort with something that doesn't exist yet ?

I really wonder if the 1:1 IF speed of 2000 MHz is possible with the 3950X ...

otherwise i'm looking at this kit :'(

G.SKILL Trident Z Neo Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) RAM Memory - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin RGB PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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Nordic · Sep 19, 2019

erek said:
I really wonder if the 1:1 IF speed of 2000 MHz is possible with the 3950X ...

otherwise i'm looking at this kit :'(

G.SKILL Trident Z Neo Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) RAM Memory - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin RGB PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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As far as I know only some people are getting 1:1 3800mhz, but most can do 1:1 3600mhz

erek · Sep 19, 2019

Nordic said:
As far as I know only some people are getting 1:1 3800mhz, but most can do 1:1 3600mhz

1:1 IF 3600 MHz stock, or they have to tweak a bunch with voltage and clocks?

Roddey · Sep 19, 2019

I was able to get the Team T force Nighthawk 3200 c14 ram to work at 3600 c14 with the 3800x. If you don't want lights then the Team dark pro looks the same but without lights. 2 or 4 sticks, both work. Its cheaper than the G.skill for AMD ram. That ram is expensive.

erek · Sep 20, 2019

https://youtu.be/XdxyTWSeRx4

oxrufiioxo · Sep 20, 2019

erek said:
https://youtu.be/XdxyTWSeRx4

Yeah that is definitely a shame especially considering it's happening on a $700 motherboard.

My Aorus Master has treated me good since day one boosting to 4.6ghz on multiple cores ( very briefly lol) with a 3900X while others have had nothing but problems with the same mobo.

I did a lot of budget ryzen 1000/2000 PC with every motherboard brand for people and never really noticed any major bios issues. My only issue was trying to run Corsair LPX memory on any of them at anything above 3000Mhz. I did make sure to only run 2 dimms on all systems though.

I did have an issue with a 2400G/B450 Pro Carbon system with a Dell monitor that wouldn't show anything on screen till the graphics driver loaded making it hard to get into bios.

erek · Sep 20, 2019

3950X delayed until November is rough, but hopefully the overall X570 is more stable by then anyhow ?

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