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No sir, I do not write for TPU. That would be @crazyeyesreaper last I knew.

Although, his results do reflect my recommendations....
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OK, just FYI your sleeper doesn't support AM4 out of the box although a fine cooler at a good price

I just find it a little odd you seem to have such a dislike about a cooler that tends to get universal praise. I have no dog in the fight (I've never used it) so I personally don't care about the cooler I just know it's well reveiwed
 

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OK, just FYI your sleeper doesn't support AM4 out of the box although a fine cooler at a good price

I just find it a little odd you seem to have such a dislike about a cooler that tends to get universal praise. I have no dog in the fight (I've never used it) so I personally don't care about the cooler I just know it's well reveiwed
To me its another Hyper 212 with color. Cheap generic cooler, better than stock, but I wouldn't do any clocking on it, and that seems to be the OPs intent.
This is why....
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Also you are correct on the AM4, just looked and it does not appear there is a mounting kit in the wild either :(
 

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Make the effort and add $10.68 for the one in the pic below: If it doesn't come with AM4 compatibility, apply for a free AM4 mounting kit directly from Noctua.

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I did just that and they gave me an AM4 mounting kit for an OVER EIGHT YEAR OLD cooler, no questions asked, and the cooler in question had been discontinued for several years (see my system specs).

Add to that, should you move to a new computer in the future that has a different socket but with the same general size (not the likes of Threadripper's size), you should be able to ask for a mounting kit for said socket for free because Noctua tends to offer kits to current Noctua cooler owners, provided you prove you own the hardware (see the link above for an example of this).

EDIT

DAMN newegg redirects ...
 
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Crudsicle!!

I've tried everything with my Zen+ 2700X!!!

stock air.
Ambient water loop.
Chilled (geothermal) sub ambient.
TEC chilled (-30c idle 0c at 4ghz all core)......

I cannot beat Max PBO overclock (4300mhz all core/threads) on any of the above cooling off the stock heatsink.

Even de-lidded the darn chip (yes it's soldered, yes did that just like Der8auer) and STILL cannot beat PBO overclocking.

The only thing I got was cooler temps.

That being said, I have been enjoying the stock cooler. No issues, cpu works, boosts (O.C.'s) as intended I've yet to see it throttle unless I run it passive (fan off) and load it for a bit.

Pick a cooler that you like, just be sure it can dissipate the same BTU (wattage) as the stock cooler or more and you'll be fine.

No reason to really debate 5c between a bunch of coolers, that won't make a difference any ways.
 

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DAMN newegg redirects ...
Code will change when posted at TPU. W1zz automated it so he can get a penny or two if you buy ;)
 

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Code will change when posted at TPU. W1zz automated it so he can get a penny or two if you buy ;)
I took a pic of the cooler instead of the link: kept getting redirected and Ghostery was "complaining" ...
 
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Would the cooler be able to handle the 3600 Oc'd to around 4.2-4.3GHz while staying under the temp threshold.
No. Get a CoolerMaster Hyper212 if you're going to OC. 4.2 is the butter-zone for those CPU's.

EDIT; Seems I earned a sadface... The reason I recommended the Hyper212 even though other forum users are not fans of it is for the following reason; it's inexpensive and works well if you're not doing crazy overclocking. 4.2ghz on a 3600 is not a crazy amount of OCing. It's a solid heatsink for less than $30 and it's leaps and bounds better than the Wraith. Now if your gonna do some involved OCing, get an AIO water cooler with a 240mm rad.
 
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There this @BumbleBee posted in the hot deals section.
 
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There's also these which do very well. I generally buy the 212, but have used these as well;
The following is very effective if you are going to do heavier OCing;
Both under $50
 
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There's also these which do very well. I generally buy the 212, but have used these as well;
The following is very effective if you are going to do heavier OCing;
Both under $50
Hyper 212 is a classic.
Changed my sad face to like as that was what I intended in the first place. Sry bout that dude.
 
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Hyper 212 is a classic.
Changed my sad face to like as that was what I intended in the first place. Sry bout that dude.
Oh, no worries!
 
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Looking for an aftermarket cooler for this Ryzen 5 3600 also, did you find a good one that is better than stock? I have a hyper 212 evo but it is older and no adapter kit.
 

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Fuma 2 is best cooler in regards to price / performance that I have tested. Yeah its about $60 if you want to go cheaper and not have a hair dryer grab a Thermalright Macho 120 SBM they will enable you to get a decent OC without breaking the bank.

Having recently done a Ryzen 3600 build and used a single tower cheap cooler temps will still spike upwards into the 80C range under FPU load so get something worthwhile.
 
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Fuma 2 is best cooler in regards to price / performance that I have tested. Yeah its about $60 if you want to go cheaper and not have a hair dryer grab a Thermalright Macho 120 SBM they will enable you to get a decent OC without breaking the bank.

Having recently done a Ryzen 3600 build and used a single tower cheap cooler temps will still spike upwards into the 80C range under FPU load so get something worthwhile.
That's a nice cooler. But it's more than 2x the budget OP has to work with..... https://www.newegg.com/p/13K-0014-00031

Notification says you quoted me? I see no quotes!@! lol.
 

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That's a nice cooler. But it's more than 2x the budget OP has to work with..... https://www.newegg.com/p/13K-0014-00031

Notification says you quoted me? I see no quotes!@! lol.
well point is Hyper 212s perform worse than most tower coolers available including cheaply made chinese ones off aliexpress. Even 92 mm based coolers can beat it out.

Fact remains if a $30-40 single tower single fan cooler that beats a 212 is spiking into the 80C range on stock 3600s just how effective is overclocking truly going to be? Thanks to smaller and smaller process nodes temp spikes are going to become more common and since those spikes influence the clocks well you get the idea.

Having delt with this issue. Its worth the extra money its why i also said Thermalright Macho 120 SBM. Its a bit older but the design is proven and can be had for around $45.

Never mind seems FSP fucked up the mounting hardware for AM4. Ie they got lazy which is too bad solid coolers otherwise.
 
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well point is Hyper 212s perform worse than most tower coolers available including cheaply made chinese ones off aliexpress. Even 92 mm based coolers can beat it out.

Fact remains if a $30-40 single tower single fan cooler that beats a 212 is spiking into the 80C range on stock 3600s just how effective is overclocking truly going to be? Thanks to smaller and smaller process nodes temp spikes are going to become more common and since those spikes influence the clocks well you get the idea.

Having delt with this issue. Its worth the extra money its why i also said Thermalright Macho 120 SBM. Its a bit older but the design is proven and can be had for around $45.

Never mind seems FSP fucked up the mounting hardware for AM4. Ie they got lazy which is too bad solid coolers otherwise.
Well all I said is "it's a classic" and actually did not suggest it for purchase.

Please define "spike"
Please explain "overclocking" Static or SenseMi driven.

80c is 15c below throttle temp. If using SenseMi overclocking (PBO CPB ect) the cpu will never reach thermtrip (shuts the board down, overheat)

But I do take your word on the Hyper 212 performance not being so good. I've seen a lot of mixed feelings on this cooler through the years.

2 things I don't typically recommend. 1 AIO. 2. sub 50$ coolers. (thought I'd have some fun digging on specs.)

I suggested this one...........
(additional comment) Looks similar to the Fuma 2 .


First one is deepcool and the second Fuma 2
 

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I'll be backing the Noctua recommendations on this one... They have sent me both 775 and AM4 brackets for my U14S which I bought back in 2014, no questions asked.

Even if we were to consider them equivalent performance, I think that simply the longevity that they give you makes it a worthwhile investment. Not to mention from my experience and of others, their fans seem to last quite a bit longer.

U12S is an ok baseline, though I would personally probably stretch for a U12A, the NF-A12x25 fans are pretty impressive pieces of kit.
 
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That one looks good too! I've never used DeepCool, but they have a solid reputation.
Meh, I figured it was decent enough 65 on sale for 44 bucks.

6 heat pipes, gonna be better than the stock cooler. I don't care what angle you look at it.
Looking at the specs 1100 grams. Hmm that's 2 and a half pounds, that means that cold plate is decent size too.
If it wasn't xmas time and I really don't need it (spare waterblocks and rads....) I'd buy it just to try it out man. 6 bucks left get some taco bell or something. lol.
 
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From the charts in this thread the ScytheFuma2 is a high performance to price ratio cooler. If you can stretch your budget to 60$ it’s worth it, IMHO.
 

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Well all I said is "it's a classic" and actually did not suggest it for purchase.

Please define "spike"
Please explain "overclocking" Static or SenseMi driven.

80c is 15c below throttle temp. If using SenseMi overclocking (PBO CPB ect) the cpu will never reach thermtrip (shuts the board down, overheat)

But I do take your word on the Hyper 212 performance not being so good. I've seen a lot of mixed feelings on this cooler through the years.

2 things I don't typically recommend. 1 AIO. 2. sub 50$ coolers. (thought I'd have some fun digging on specs.)

I suggested this one...........
(additional comment) Looks similar to the Fuma 2 .


First one is deepcool and the second Fuma 2
Spike as in the peak reading and sorry to say even if it says its not going to throttle the clocks still drop and wont remain at there maximum. These temp spikes also on cheaper coolers tends to cause the RPM to ramp up.

Also keep in mind i basically test in a perfect / temperature controlled environment at 21 to 22c. So if the OP ever experiences higher Ambients or has a case with less than stellar airflow that means increased Ambient temps which in turn means even higher temps as well. Thus when i peaked at 80C depending on case you might see temps as high as 85 or even 90C.

The OP can do as they wish but looking at current CPUs / transistor density etc while temps are still easily controllable spiking temps are more common. Example AMD stock cooler, under static load it reached 80c range in Cinebench averaged out across the test and if you remove the first 10-20 seconds. in that first 10-20 seconds the CPU spiked into the 90+C range.

As for the Deepcool vs the Scythe, i have no issues with Deepcool but Scythe has the far better build quality and is offset for improved memory compatibility where as looking at the Deepcool it will likely overhang the DIMM slots limiting the OP to standard height memory only. There is also the fact that the Neptwin V2 is still based on the 2012 design which was entry level back then. Its not a bad cooler I just dont think its really worth it today.

But if the OP just wants a cheap cooler why not ask? not like I dont have a shelf full of the damn things collecting dust.
 
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