Ryzen 7 Build

[SmoothOperator]

Budget: $2,000 - $2,500
Purpose: Gaming and VR.

CPU: R7 3700X
Motherboard: B550 (ASUS ROG Strik w/ WIFI)
Graphics Card: RTX 3080 (any variant)
RAM: (8x2) 3600 (G.skill Trident)
SSD's/HDD: 1TB M.2 (Samsung Evo)
Case: Lian Li II Mesh or P400A Digital
PSU: 800w Gold Modular
Monitor: Existing 55" LG CX OLED
Operating System: Windows 10
Peripherals: All existing + Occulus Rift (also existing)
Cooling: AIO for CPU (is 240 Rad overkill?), both cases have good fan setups, room to upgrade the case fans later if I need more ventilation.
Overclock: Yes, but nothing crazy, within the limits of my cooling setup.

Please any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[xman2007]

Wait for zen 3 out in 2 weeks, the rest of the build looks fine and I don't think a 240 aio is overkill at all

 

[toname]

WOW... with a budget like yours. That's how much I spent upgrading 3 PC all for my children online school requirement. Although I was forced into it, because my existing rigs caught the COVID virus and just refused to boot-up. So I bought the following:

1- Ryzen7 2700X
2- Ryzen7 3700X
2- Asrock B550M-HDV
1- ASUS PRIME B450
1- ADATA 512 NVMe
2- RX 5500XT
1- ACER 27" LED
all other part carried over from existing rigs.

Mashed them all together and got the kids online just in time to start online school. I wasn't looking to beat any gaming rig trophies. But this system run all the games my family plays..OVERWATCH, GEMS OF WAR, ROBLOX. the small stuff.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Thanks, for the case, is it worth the extra $100 for the Lian Li over the P400A? or should I just step up to the P500?

 

[toname]

Thanks, for the case, is it worth the extra $100 for the Lian Li over the P400A? or should I just step up to the P500?

It's a matter of preferences. Choose what's best for your stuff to fit in. Give a lot of room for your GPU and for future upgrades, plus air flow. If you like pretty, then buy the pretty one. My cases sit below a desk so nobody see them. What INSIDE the case that matters.

 

[stinger608]

Wait for zen 3 out in 2 weeks, the rest of the build looks fine and I don't think a 240 aio is overkill at all

As said here.

AsRock along with most all other manufactures have the new BIOS download for the new Ryzen 5xxx series on the B550 motherboards.

Also, make sure that the SSD is an NVMe drive that supports the new 4.0. Hell of a lot faster read and write speeds!

And that AsRock board supports 4.0

 

[jesdals]

Just made a build in the Lian LI Lancool II with a Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 in the front easy an clean build - enabled 1900MHz Infinity fabric and a temp below 65c after 8 ours cpuz stress test på all cores of a 3600x cpu - very nice case fans and with a Gigabyte OC Gaming 2070 super. Very silent in games.

For memory I would recommend Patriot Viper 4400MHz because you get high grade samsung B die at a low price - had 4 kits now and they all do 1867-1900MHz Infinity fabric settings with CL14.

 

[heinztvoert]

I would recommend the MSI X570 tomahawk. Speaking from personal experience it is an amazing board, has great thermals, can handle anything u toss at it. I think has a good upgrade curve (Zen 3rd Gen)

 

[Zach_01]

As said from others just wait until Nov5th. By then (that day or next) reviews will be out for new CPUs and GPUs. You may find things interesting.

AS for the rest of the system I think its ok!

Also, make sure that the SSD is an NVMe drive that supports the new 4.0. Hell of a lot faster read and write speeds!
And that AsRock board supports 4.0

Other than benchmarks and moving TBs of data around from drive to drive there is no real benefit between SSD connection protocols and speeds
I use NVMe drive as OS drive and other than fast loading windows and fast installs of software there isnt any benefit over SATA SSDs and it doesnt matter that it is PCI-E 3.0. PCI-E 4.0 is the same for this "work"
So PCI-E 3.0 NVMe is just fine. No need for extra cost.

 

[SmoothOperator]

As said from others just wait until Nov5th. By then (that day or next) reviews will be out for new CPUs and GPUs. You may find things interesting.

AS for the rest of the system I think its ok!


Other than benchmarks and moving TBs of data around from drive to drive there is no real benefit between SSD interfaces and speeds
I use NVMe drive as OS drive and other than fast loading windows and fast installs of software the isnt any benefit over SATA SSDs and it doesnt matter that it is PCI-E 3.0. PCI-E 4.0 is the same for this "work"
So PCI-E NVMe is just fine. No need for extra cost.

Will there be inventory of zen 3, RTX 30 and big navi available come end of november? or will we all be searching for parts like tickets to a sold out concert?

 

[RandallFlagg]

Hm. I'm just going to say, if I were going to spend $2,000 for games and VR, I would build something more powerful than that.

1 - Either get a 10850K, or wait for Zen 3
2 - Get 32GB of RAM
3 - Don't get a midrange chipset board at that price point.
4 - If you must go AMD, don't go Asus. I love Asus for Intel, but MSI supports AMD better IMO

You should be able to do all of the above inside a $2000 price, just be patient and don't over pay for that 3080.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Hm. I'm just going to say, if I were going to spend $2,000 for games and VR, I would build something more powerful than that.

1 - Either get a 10850K, or wait for Zen 3
2 - Get 32GB of RAM
3 - Don't get a midrange chipset board at that price point.
4 - If you must go AMD, don't go Asus. I love Asus for Intel, but MSI supports AMD better IMO

You should be able to do all of the above inside a $2000 price, just be patient and don't over pay for that 3080.

So go big....... X570 Zen 3 and OC the heck out of it?

 

[Zach_01]

That I cannot tell with certainty.
What I believe tho is that November with be different in availability from nVidia. My thoughts are that they rushed the Ampere launch to have the upper hand in marketing before AMD announces the new GPUs. Even though nVidia knew that they dont have the supply for the demand. Or... they didnt really wanted to sell 3080s for 700~750$. The 20GB variant will come soon and I believe will be around 1000$ MSRP.
For AMD I believe they want to supply the market as soon as possible, and must be prepared for that. I dont think that things will be as bad as it is with 3080/3090s.

It will be wise to wait. Even if you dont like the new stuff it may change the whole market through November.

Hm. I'm just going to say, if I were going to spend $2,000 for games and VR, I would build something more powerful than that.

1 - Either get a 10850K, or wait for Zen 3
2 - Get 32GB of RAM
3 - Don't get a midrange chipset board at that price point.
4 - If you must go AMD, don't go Asus. I love Asus for Intel, but MSI supports AMD better IMO

You should be able to do all of the above inside a $2000 price, just be patient and don't over pay for that 3080.

Some B550s are well equiped boards with nice VRM also. And if the OP does not care for PCI-E 4.0 between chipset and CPU its fine. PCI-E slots and m.2 are still PCI-E 4.0.
As for brands I think that every vendor had their fare share of issues with ZEN2. Maybe MSI, in B450s was better than others. But didnt keep that in X570, at least not from the beginning and in the low end side. In B550 I think all vendors have improve their lineup.
I still tho think AsRock as the last choice in all 400/500series due to their "wierd" implemented BIOS and after seeing alot issues with RAM support. I wish they change that in B550, I do not know.

So go big....... X570 Zen 3 and OC the heck out of it?

Personally I'm against OCing ZEN2 and we dont really know what kind of fruit ZEN3 is for that matter. Getting X570 is not for better OC. Its about more features and connectivity.
OC is coming to an end year by year. And the Intel parts that still doing it is due to their stall on 14nm. Once they move on fully on 10nm or 7nm this will probably change also.

 

[SmoothOperator]

That I cannot tell with certainty.
What I believe tho is that November with be different in availability from nVidia. My thoughts are that they rushed the Ampere launch to have the upper hand in marketing before AMD announces the new GPUs. Even though nVidia knew that they dont have the supply for the demand. Or... they didnt really wanted to sell 3080s for 700~750$. The 20GB variant will come soon and I believe will be around 1000$ MSRP.
For AMD I believe they want to supply the market as soon as possible, and must be prepared for that. I dont think that things will be as bad as it is with 3080/3090s.

It will be wise to wait. Even if you dont like the new stuff it may change the whole market through November.


Some B550s are well equiped boards with nice VRM also. And if the OP does not care for PCI-E 4.0 between chipset and CPU its fine. PCI-E slots and m.2 are still PCI-E 4.0.
As for brands I think that every vendor had their fare share of issues with ZEN2. Maybe MSI, in B450s was better than others. But didnt keep that in X570, at least not from the beginning and in the low end side. In B550 I think all vendors have improve their lineup.
I still tho think AsRock as the last choice in all 400/500series due to their "wierd" implemented BIOS and after seeing alot issues with RAM support. I wish they change that in B550, I do not know.


Personally I'm against OCing ZEN2 and we dont really know what kind of fruit ZEN3 is for that matter. Getting X570 is not for better OC. Its about more features and connectivity.
OC is coming to an end year by year. And the Intel parts that still doing it is due to their stall on 14nm. Once they move on fully on 10nm or 7nm this will probably change also.

Ah I figured the best VRMs are on the X570 boards. Yea I'm going to wait and hopefully there will be enough inventory between all parties. This is a great feedback from everyone, will definitely be back before I purchase.

Thanks

 

[Zach_01]

Ah I figured the best VRMs are on the X570 boards.

Thats not always the case. There are x570s with low-end or even bad VRMs, worst than B550s

 

[RandallFlagg]

So go big....... X570 Zen 3 and OC the heck out of it?

I'm not talking extravagant $500+ motherboards for extreme overclockers, just good ones.

Given that you can get "good" X570s for sub $250 price points, I see no reason not to get one on a $2000+ build. Be careful that people do not sell you on something more appropriate at a lower price point (550) simply because that is what they did. I mean, the 3080 will run you $700+. That leaves $1300 for build sans GPU. My entire build with GPU (2060 KO) was right at $1000 and that's with buying Windows 10 Pro. I have a Z490. You gonna get a B550 at $2k? Why would ya do that?

For example, you may not think you have a reason to have 10x 10Gbit USB 3.2 ports right now, like the X570 can have. But you'll have them. In 3 years you may be adding USB 3.2 hubs to an B550 to share its two USB 3.2 ports max. You just have to do your research on the exact model.

 

[Max(IT)]

Will there be inventory of zen 3, RTX 30 and big navi available come end of november? or will we all be searching for parts like tickets to a sold out concert?

Unfortunately I think it will be difficult to find a 3080 and a zen 3 CPU available by the end of November...