Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[theonek]

With me, I don't look at it that way. lol
I bought a Gigabyte mobo and it was a DOA. I suppose this happens. So I got a replacement shipped. That one had major bios issues. Long story short, ain't going through that again. With me, screw up the 2nd time and that's it. lol

I almost written off ASUS too. This one was due to a nonsense Motherboard Bios issue, but different then the Gigabyte one. But ASUS promptly rectified the issue and it got resolved. Another indecent? Nvidia, I've written them off too. lol Companies that have been amazing so far and I continue to buy & support?

Corsair
AMD
Sapphire
G-Skill
ASRock
CoolerMaster
LG
etc., I might take another look at Gigabyte OK, I mean it's been what? 7-10 years now?

I personally hate several hardware manifacturers. Basically never liked brands like asus, asrock, sapphire, msi, oo and not to forget A-data and Kingston, and more. But how the things turned now? Always been stick to the gigabyte products until this annual update - went to perfectly strangers to me like Asrock and MSI, and the thing is - you never know when a good surprise will come out! Especially these two for mobo and videocard....

 

[Super XP]

I personally hate several hardware manifacturers. Basically never liked brands like asus, asrock, sapphire, msi, oo and not to forget A-data and Kingston, and more. But how the things turned now? Always been stick to the gigabyte products until this annual update - went to perfectly strangers to me like Asrock and MSI, and the thing is - you never know when a good surprise will come out! Especially these two for mobo and videocard....

Agreed.
Perhaps I will try too, in this case Gigabyte.

 

[trickson]

3.8GHz (in the BIOS) no voltage increase yet.

 

[YautjaLord]

@trickson @Super XP: Soltek, ASUS, Gigabyte & AsRock - these are the firms that made mobos i had (ASUS being the one i bought & owned most ). Prior to buying AX370 Gaming K7 i had AsRock's Fatal1ty 990FX Killer - loved it, shame they don't make graphics cards, would be really awesome. Don't stick to one brand, surprise yourselves, that's the moto.

@trickson: i used 1.25v vCore for 3.7GHz, 1.35v for 3.8GHz. Love that CPU & mobo, 2h of Prime95 @ 3.7GHz/1.25v & kept working long after it, no BSODs, no crashes, just plain f*ckin awesome. Cheers.

 

[GoldenX]

3.8GHz (in the BIOS) no voltage increase yet.

I think that is some kind of auto voltage increase by the motherboard. Stock should be @ 1,00-1,10v

 

[trickson]

I think that is some kind of auto voltage increase by the motherboard. Stock should be @ 1,00-1,10v

I'm not sure about that, I always overclock in the bios and I haven't touched the voltage yet. so maybe if the MB has some built in feature I don't know about.

 

[GoldenX]

I'm not sure about that, I always overclock in the bios and I haven't touched the voltage yet. so maybe if the MB has some built in feature I don't know about.

Most nowdays do, the only way to be sure is check the stock voltage and set it fixed in bios.

Ok, now that the 3DMark 11 scores leaked, that IGP is a 92% better than my 7750, seriously doubting if I should sell the 1200+HD7750 and go for a 2400G, or wait for the Zen2 APUs in the next years.

 

[dhklopp]

I'll be joining the club over the weekend (parts delivery permitting), so get ready for a bombardment of questions if it doesn't play nice when I put it together .

 

[eidairaman1]

I'm not sure about that, I always overclock in the bios and I haven't touched the voltage yet. so maybe if the MB has some built in feature I don't know about.

This is on am3 for me, i set a reference voltage in the bios, 1.476, during Ryzen blender the cpu voltage at least detected by open hardware monitor will jump to 1.5024 on its own. So i guess boards have some leeway.

 

[GoldenX]

This is on am3 for me, i set a reference voltage in the bios, 1.476, during Ryzen blender the cpu voltage at least detected by open hardware monitor will jump to 1.5024 on its own. So i guess boards have some leeway.

You can control that with Loadline Calibration, even on AM3. Some boards, specially cheap ones do that.

I was reading on some of the CPU options, like OpCache, relaxed EDC thottling and C6 state. OpCache is for prediction, helps both to reduce power and increase performance, EDC throttling reduces the time the CPU spends on a lower state due to temperatures or current limits, and C6 is core parking, Windows has problems with that on Ryzen, that's why we need to use a specific power plan.

 

[eidairaman1]

You can control that with Loadline Calibration, even on AM3. Some boards, specially cheap ones do that.

I was reading on some of the CPU options, like OpCache, relaxed EDC thottling and C6 state. OpCache is for prediction, helps both to reduce power and increase performance, EDC throttling reduces the time the CPU spends on a lower state due to temperatures or current limits, and C6 is core parking, Windows has problems with that on Ryzen, that's why we need to use a specific power plan.

I leave llc off, it doesnt drop below 1.476 though.

Sabertooth R2.0 was known to take 8350/70 to 5.0+ GHz

 

[dhklopp]

Well the big new build is on hold until Sunday. I received an empty USA 1910 playing card box instead of my CPU due to some tea leaf at Amazon's warehouse

 

[NdMk2o1o]

3.8GHz (in the BIOS) no voltage increase yet.

Nice OC and decent volts, have you tried to go higher? I have been sitting at 3.9 for the last few days at 1.3v with no issues, I'm thinking the last bios update I done has given me more stability than previous as I can also set my RAM using XMP now whereas I couldnt previously, I wonder if I can get to 4ghz as previously I had to throw stupid voltage into it (1.45) just to boot but it was way too hot while benching for the stock cooler.

 

[trickson]

Nice OC and decent volts, have you tried to go higher? I have been sitting at 3.9 for the last few days at 1.3v with no issues, I'm thinking the last bios update I done has given me more stability than previous as I can also set my RAM using XMP now whereas I couldn't previously, I wonder if I can get to 4ghz as previously I had to throw stupid voltage into it (1.45) just to boot but it was way too hot while benching for the stock cooler.

Thank you, I want to I am just not sure about the stock cooler, It's not even the good one with the LED light, it's the cheapo aluminum base one. so I won't be over volting at all. no way.
I am scared now at 3.8GHz. I took it back to 3.5GHz till I get cooling, No need to blow it out before I can have some real fun.

 

[YautjaLord]

Can hit 4.0GHz/1.42v & boot into Win 10 easily, it's just it would hard reset the rig not even halfway through the Cinebench R15. I don't even try to run Prime95 cause of this shit. I'll wait til i get EKWB's monoblock & only then fiddle with clocks & voltages. Unless my LCS's waterblock can handle 1.46v vCore/1.25v SoC voltages. If anyone has an answer to solve this issue, much appreciated.

 

[GoldenX]

Thank you, I want to I am just not sure about the stock cooler, It's not even the good one with the LED light, it's the cheapo aluminum base one. so I won't be over volting at all. no way.
I am scared now at 3.8GHz. I took it back to 3.5GHz till I get cooling, No need to blow it out before I can have some real fun.

Man, the stock aluminum one is enough for a 1,35v overclock.

Can hit 4.0GHz/1.42v & boot into Win 10 easily, it's just it would hard reset the rig not even halfway through the Cinebench R15. I don't even try to run Prime95 cause of this shit. I'll wait til i get EKWB's monoblock & only then fiddle with clocks & voltages. Unless my LCS's waterblock can handle 1.46v vCore/1.25v SoC voltages. If anyone has an answer to solve this issue, much appreciated.

I think the only problem is that you need better temps, the kit should help.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

No need to be scared at those volts nothing is going to blow, at most your main concern should be temperature and as long as that's in check then you are fine, you will hit the temp limit before you could pump enough volts into the CPU to damage it, and you're talking 1.5v+

Can hit 4.0GHz/1.42v & boot into Win 10 easily, it's just it would hard reset the rig not even halfway through the Cinebench R15. I don't even try to run Prime95 cause of this shit. I'll wait til i get EKWB's monoblock & only then fiddle with clocks & voltages. Unless my LCS's waterblock can handle 1.46v vCore/1.25v SoC voltages. If anyone has an answer to solve this issue, much appreciated.

1.42v for 3.9, man I can take my 1600 to 3.9 at 1.3 on stock cooling though you do have those 2/4 extra cores/threads and 30w more TDP but even still, seems high, have you changed any other voltages or is everything else at auto? edit: nvm see your 1.25v SOC bit, why 1.25? isnt 1.10 default, are you unstable at that?>

 

[GoldenX]

1,00-1,10v SoC shoud be enough for 3200MHz on RAM.

 

[YautjaLord]

No need to be scared at those volts nothing is going to blow, at most your main concern should be temperature and as long as that's in check then you are fine, you will hit the temp limit before you could pump enough volts into the CPU to damage it, and you're talking 1.5v+


1.42v for 3.9, man I can take my 1600 to 3.9 at 1.3 on stock cooling though you do have those 2/4 extra cores/threads and 30w more TDP but even still, seems high, have you changed any other voltages or is everything else at auto? edit: nvm see your 1.25v SOC bit, why 1.25? isnt 1.10 default, are you unstable at that?>

It's 1.25v in CPU-Z, 1.10v in BIOS. For some reason CPU-Z thinks it can bump up SoC voltage, probably cause LLC is @ Extreme. Beside vCore, SoC & LLC everything else is @ Auto. Think this EK's monoblock will suit me well.

Also, yeah - perfectly stable @ the 3.9GHz/1.42v vCore, 1.10v SoC, where did you see 1.25v SoC? CPU-Z? HWInfo64? 1723cb @ Cinebench R15 with these settings & 2h+ run of Prime95 Blend test. 2h of Prime95 SmallFFT test will suffice to check for instabilities?

 

[PHaS3]

https://www.techpowerup.com/241298/...oard-bios-updates-for-raven-ridge-apu-support

I see I now have AGESA 1.1.0.1, along with improved memory compatibility and improved PCIE compatibility. Looking forward to flashing to this when I get home from work this afternoon.

 

[YautjaLord]

Tried the following:
vCore - 1.40v
SoC - 1.08v
LLC - Turbo
bClk - 103/100
Multi - 39x/40x

After 3rd crush/hard reset by Cinebench R15, was greeted by Win 10 Recovery/Troubleshooting page. 3.9GHz for now, til i get this EK's monoblock. Have anyone of you was lucky with OC'ing while Bank Group Swap & Gear Down Mode options were enabled, tho? Will help.

 

[the54thvoid]

Question. What would be hotter, CPU socket temp or CPU? HWinfo still gives me either a 50 or 70 degree temp on CPU on Prime at 3.82Ghz at 1.39v.
On a good air cooler. Pretty sure the 20 degree off set is being wrongly applied to the higher temp reading. When stopping Prime, CPU socket is hotter than CPU.

 

[Super XP]

 

[GoldenX]

Tried the following:
vCore - 1.40v
SoC - 1.08v
LLC - Turbo
bClk - 103/100
Multi - 39x/40x

After 3rd crush/hard reset by Cinebench R15, was greeted by Win 10 Recovery/Troubleshooting page. 3.9GHz for now, til i get this EK's monoblock. Have anyone of you was lucky with OC'ing while Bank Group Swap & Gear Down Mode options were enabled, tho? Will help.

I do, but a 1200 is a lot less stressful for the motherboard.

New MSI bios, new max clock for the RAM sticks, 3400MHz. And then they decided to never boot again at that frequency.

 

[YautjaLord]

I do, but a 1200 is a lot less stressful for the motherboard.

New MSI bios, new max clock for the RAM sticks, 3400MHz. And then they decided to never boot again at that frequency.

That sucks. Gonna keep fiddling tomorrow, see if these will make OC'ing easier on my mobo, if not - next salary will have me that EK's monoblock & roll it real f*ckin proper/adult-like. lol Cheers.