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I will give them a try soon, and since my last post i did a few 3dmark runs on the CPU test and also a few firestrike ultra test and no crashes yet.
Just to be clear,
Real gaming is better than any GPU 3D benchmarks in showing stability issues.
 
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Why do EXPO profiles on AM5 always push SOC up to 1.25v for a mere 2000 FCLK?
Imo, this is lunacy & just adding unnecessary heat to the CPU.
This morning I'm testing two EXPO profiles in 2 different rigs & they both do this even on the latest bios & AGESA release.
 
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Why do EXPO profiles on AM5 always push SOC up to 1.25v for a mere 2000 FCLK?
Imo, this is lunacy & just adding unnecessary heat to the CPU.
This morning I'm testing two EXPO profiles in 2 different rigs & they both do this even on the latest bios & AGESA release.
Going from like 1.1v to 1.25v on SoC voltage will add maybe a few watt. Under 5W
Same thing on AM4. Jedec profile works with 1.0~1.08v and when you enabling XMP the boards are shoving up to 1.2v SoC if not more.
I've lowered mine to 1.1v

Its the universal way to ensure stability for all CPU/board/DRAM combos out there... or so they think it is.
 
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Going from like 1.1v to 1.25v on SoC voltage will add maybe a few watt. Under 5W
Same thing on AM4. Jedec profile works with 1.0~1.08v and when you enabling XMP the boards are shoving up to 1.2v SoC if not more.
I've lowered mine to 1.1v

Its the universal way to ensure stability for all CPU/board/DRAM combos out there... or so they think it is.
Yeah, I get that, but in tightly fitting areas like CPU sockets & transistor density compacting more & more with each generation, the laws of physics dictate heat has to go somewhere even if the electrical energy used to measure is just a few watts. I've noticed dropping SOCv for 2000 FCLK to something like 1.13v with LLC adjusted reduces temps by up to 5C under full load conditions. Thus enabling the PBO mechanism to improve its performance.
 
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Anyone experimented with low latency ddr5 and a sync'd fclk? I'm wondering how it might impact some of am5's bandwidth issues. My bet is it would be worse, or obviously they'd be advising it, but are there any actual benches that have tried like ddr5-4000 or ddr5-4200, etc? Sorta gotta a brain worm telling me to try it.
 
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