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was asked to build a very low budget build for a friends mum whose PC is dying, and realised ryzen is perfect

Cheapo board, Athlon 200GE...
You can actually make a budget PC that works for now, with a super easy upgrade path to absurd CPU's later
 
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Just for kicks I disabled XFR, and PBO. Running at base clock speed but it doesn't feel slowed down to me.
 
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Just for kicks I disabled XFR, and PBO. Running at base clock speed but it doesn't feel slowed down to me.
That's why I don't bother maxing it or even stepping down to 4.2 anymore. I'm pretty happy with it down at 4ghz.

Heat ramps up significantly and it benches better, but general perceived performance isn't noticeably better. I guess Zen+ doesn't really scale like that. Or perhaps it's just that clock speeds don't do much for my usage. I prefer to take advantage of the fact that cooling demands drop off quite a lot when you turn it down from "11" to "8-9ish" and just appreciate the fact that I can run a near-silent build and not even notice a performance loss. 2600 is massively more power efficient when you go easier on it. For me, the sweet spot seems to be 4.1 or even 4ghz all-core. It does those at a measly 1.23v and 1.13v respectively. To do 4.2 I need 1.31 (less before the b-die came into the picture.) To do a STABLE 4.25 I'm looking at voltages upwards of 1.37. At that point, you're still racking up decent gains... it's just not a lot to show for just how much more wattage and heat that configuration brings about.

That's actually how I've always felt about the 2600, going back to when I left it stock only, boosting up to 3.9ghz. I still debate on running it like that and using Ryzen Master to boost up when the oomph is needed. It's a respectable, versatile, and efficient midrange CPU that really doesn't require much to fully appreciate. Generally just very well balanced to a nice, all-rounder setup. Drop the stock cooler on and go. Save a little money and yet want for little. A lot of people simply do not need more than the 2600/x gives you out of the box. And really, you already get most of what it has to offer out of it even before you start tinkering with it.
 
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My current Ryzen 2700 has 16GB of 2400mhz, A few members suggested i overclock them before replacing them i tried and this is the worst set anyone could ever get! So to replacing them the replacement sticks will end up in a Ryzen 3 series builds so what speed and Timing should i look for or should i wait till and order with the 3 series Ryzen?
 

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My current Ryzen 2700 has 16GB of 2400mhz, A few members suggested i overclock them before replacing them i tried and this is the worst set anyone could ever get! So to replacing them the replacement sticks will end up in a Ryzen 3 series builds so what speed and Timing should i look for or should i wait till and order with the 3 series Ryzen?
3200 C14 is considered the sweet spot by many, so aim for around that
 
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My current Ryzen 2700 has 16GB of 2400mhz, A few members suggested i overclock them before replacing them i tried and this is the worst set anyone could ever get! So to replacing them the replacement sticks will end up in a Ryzen 3 series builds so what speed and Timing should i look for or should i wait till and order with the 3 series Ryzen?
I got 2700X equipped with Flare X 3200 CL 14 and you can see the difference especially going from 2400.
 
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I finally got the boards I was after for my two 1700X's....

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I'm hoping to get time over this weekend to get them setup and running :)
 
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I'm not sure they'll be going much past stock as these two rigs will be for my 6 year old daughter and my girl friend :) But I'll see if I can get a bit of overclocking done, even with an air cooler :) I'll have to do a bit of reading to find out how hot these run just out of interest since I'll be putting them both under WCG :)
 
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I finally got the boards I was after for my two 1700X's....

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I'm hoping to get time over this weekend to get them setup and running :)
How many postit notes???? :laugh:

Are you just running the Wraith Max/Spire coolers? should be good for stock settings and max boost either way.

Looks like you have a busy weekend ahead of you, I'm kinda jealous :p
 
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How many postit notes???? :laugh:

Are you just running the Wraith Max/Spire coolers? should be good for stock settings and max boost either way.

Looks like you have a busy weekend ahead of you, I'm kinda jealous :p
One of the old buildings work used to use got cleared out and things just thrown out, so I picked a few things up :) There's probably more downstairs somewhere lol My daughter loves them :)

At the moment, no cooler as the 1700X's I bought never came with one. That said I have a D14 and another 140mm sized heatsink combo in the loft, so I'll be giving them a go, even if I have to just place them on top the CPU :)
I must get it done, want to make sure they work as I've another Hero 6 on the way and I'll sell the non Wi-Fi version I have now :)
 
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I finally got the boards I was after for my two 1700X's....

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I'm hoping to get time over this weekend to get them setup and running :)
Those are good OCing boards. You should be able to get a solid 4ghz out of those 1700x's!

I'm not sure they'll be going much past stock as these two rigs will be for my 6 year old daughter and my girl friend :)
Give it a try anyway. Should be easy.
 

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While I have my pc apart for maintenance I decided to lap my 1800x, it took about 30mins starting at 800 then 1200, it was looking pretty good so went straight to 3000 grit to finish up. Not perfectly mirror polished but very flat. :D

 
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Those are good OCing boards. You should be able to get a solid 4ghz out of those 1700x's!


Give it a try anyway. Should be easy.
WOw is that your PC Desk lol, nice

While I have my pc apart for maintenance I decided to lap it my 1800x, took about 30mins started at 800 then 1200, it was looking pretty good so went straight to 3000 grit to finish up. Not perfectly mirror polished but very flat. :D
Awesome, :toast:
 
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While I have my pc apart for maintenance I decided to lap my 1800x, it took about 30mins starting at 800 then 1200, it was looking pretty good so went straight to 3000 grit to finish up. Not perfectly mirror polished but very flat. :D


But does it help at all?
 
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While I have my pc apart for maintenance I decided to lap my 1800x, it took about 30mins starting at 800 then 1200, it was looking pretty good so went straight to 3000 grit to finish up. Not perfectly mirror polished but very flat. :D
Perfectly respectable job. Doesn't really need a mirror finish because the TIM will fill into the microscopic gaps.

WOw is that your PC Desk lol, nice
? What desk are you talking about?
 
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But does it help at all?
Dunno yet, I'll try to get it all back together tomorrow. I didnt bother getting 'before' temps as I didn't really plan on doing this.. I've never been particularly happy with temps, I remember it would hit mid 70s when at full load 1.45V. When I took the waterblock off there was a fairly thick layer of paste over the die area so that makes sense, and the block is already lapped so I know that's flat.

I'll report back tomorrow :peace:
 
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Those are good OCing boards. You should be able to get a solid 4ghz out of those 1700x's!

Give it a try anyway. Should be easy.
I'll have to stop them running WCG for a bit to install Windows I guess :D :lol: Hopefully when I get a bit more time... My daughter coming down to see me this weekend, so will definitely be busy....

EDIT -
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I forgot this pic... They've been up and testing with WCG for the last week, no complaints here at all :)

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These things are beasts!! :D

I'll need to get Windows installed and get testing I think.... Both rigs completely at stock so there's a lot of potential there still :)
 
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Dunno yet, I'll try to get it all back together tomorrow. I didnt bother getting 'before' temps as I didn't really plan on doing this.. I've never been particularly happy with temps, I remember it would hit mid 70s when at full load 1.45V. When I took the waterblock off there was a fairly thick layer of paste over the die area so that makes sense, and the block is already lapped so I know that's flat.

I'll report back tomorrow :peace:
I was being a bit facetious, I think I already know the answer. Temps improve but still the same OC
 
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I picked up a Ryzen 5 1600/ ASRock b450 pro4/ PC red dragon rx570 4gb/ 2x4gb 2666/ Cooler Master 80+ white 500w/ 240gb Inland pro ssd for $397.98 after tax...
The R5 1600 is $79.99 at Microcenter and you get $30 off with purchase of a compatible motherboard... The price of the Pro4 was $45 after discount...$125 for both is awesome and leaves a cheap upgrade path.
 
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I picked up a Ryzen 5 1600/ ASRock b450 pro4/ PC red dragon rx570 4gb/ 2x4gb 2666/ Cooler Master 80+ white 500w/ 240gb Inland pro ssd for $397.98 after tax...
The R5 1600 is $79.99 at Microcenter and you get $30 off with purchase of a compatible motherboard... The price of the Pro4 was $45 after discount...$125 for both is awesome and leaves a cheap upgrade path.

I wish I lived near a Microcenter those prices are unheard of in Canada. $79.99 for a 6 core processor is sweet but $45 for a MB is ridiculous.
 
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Interesting picks Techspot settled on for their best cpus of 2019.

Best All-Round Value CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 2600 $165
Best Value CPU for Productivity - AMD Ryzen 7 2700 $220
Best Gaming CPU - Intel Core i7-8700K $380
Best Extreme Desktop CPU - AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X $800
Best Budget CPU - AMD Ryzen 3 2200G $95

Unusual seeing four AMD CPUs as recommendations for purchase. Anyways don't want to take away from the Zen refugee that this thread is.
 
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Right... It's hard to believe but I can't afford Newegg prices anymore.
Newegg seems to hold a premium over MSRP for far too long whereas Microcenter drops the premium price within 30 days of launch and usually offers a 20% or better price drop within 6 months...GFX's being the exception.
I know exactly what you are saying. Newegg.com had the X399 Phantom Gaming 6 for $249.99 US (MSRP) I try to buy one and they tell me I can't. I say to the rep that this is the first time I have not been able to buy a product on Newegg.com to ship to Canada. 2 days later the board gets listed on Newegg.ca for $444 which is $330 US so a premium of almost $90 just because of Canada (Good thing I ordered one from another site that did ship to Canada). Even the 1600 is $199.99 in Canada on sale. I wish MIcrocenter would setup shop in Canada we need a 4th competitor now that Tiger Direct and NCIX are gone. It only leaves Amazon and Newegg for online and Canada Computers for retail. I do find though that Canada Computers can have some decent sales. Recently they had a Gigabyte RX570 on sale for $139.99

Interesting picks Techspot settled on for their best cpus of 2019.

Best All-Round Value CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 2600 $165
Best Value CPU for Productivity - AMD Ryzen 7 2700 $220
Best Gaming CPU - Intel Core i7-8700K $380
Best Extreme Desktop CPU - AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X $800
Best Budget CPU - AMD Ryzen 3 2200G $95

Unusual seeing four AMD CPUs as recommendations for purchase. Anyways don't want to take away from the Zen refugee that this thread is.
That seems to reflect Amazon.com's top 10 selling CPUs. WIth the exception of the 2950X
 

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my mobo has a BIOS update for the upcoming ryzen CPU's that enabled a previously broken feature (bclck overclocking)
Interestingly i cant OC my ram much/at all past 3200 without black screen bugs, but the CPU has some headroom left.
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