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The prettiness of your workstation there makes mine suddenly feel quite bland.

i have one giant messy setup, and one compact clean setup. it makes me happy having both, which makes me feel bipolar :p
 
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The prettiness of your workstation there makes mine suddenly feel quite bland.

give it a few months, it's only clean now cause I felt the need to take a few pictures of it, cleaned :p
 
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Considering the choice of mobo, I would go for the 1300X. It'll be worth the extra money in the long run, unless you plan to upgrade to R5 or R7 later.
I am planning to upgrade it with my 1700 once 2nd gen shows up, so 1200 it is. Cash is a factor too, right now :p
EDIT: Then again, the 1300X has less market adoption which means better resale value in the future...oh how I despise ROI outside business...
I'm running seemingly stable at 2400mhz and 32gbs of ram. Think I should go 16gb at 2666?
You're running 4 sticks then? Thne two sticks for 2666Mhz.
Use this as a rule of thumb:

Start from here and work your way upwards :)
Thyphoon your DIMMs if you're unsure whether they're single or dual rank. (it makes a difference)
 
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or just buy a cheap board next year and make a second PC :D

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I am too scared only stock cooling
 
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I am too scared only stock cooling
The Cooler Master Hyper T4 is an excellent cooler and allows for good OCing. Most of the Ryzen builds I've done lately have been with that cooler and it handily takes Ryzen in stride. It's inexpensive as well at about $25USD. It's only downside is that the fins are a bit low to the board, so if you have RAM with taller heat-spreaders, you may wish to go with the Hyper 212 EVO, at $30USD, which has higher clearance, but is also a taller unit and requires more headroom in a case. Links below for both.
Hyper 212 EVO https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI
Hyper T4 https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Contact-Heatpipes-RR-T4-18PK-R1/dp/B00BSKY1M4
Aussie prices shouldn't be too far off.
 

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The hyper t4 is a piece of garbage that easily gets overwhelmed
 

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Citation please. From my experience, every one of them I've purchased performs very well and allow for excellent OCing.

Citation of what it is common knowledge that heat load over about 140-160w overloads it and temps skyrocket under load. You are welcome to look around for a review with any 8 core chip from the 5960x to 8350 to 1700x and up. Hell I have one on a 3820K and it can't even keep it cool at 4.3ghz with two good SP fans on it.
 
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Citation of what it is common knowledge that heat load over about 140-160w overloads it and temps skyrocket under load. You are welcome to look around for a review with any 8 core chip from the 5960x to 8350 to 1700x and up. Hell I have one on a 3820K and it can't even keep it cool at 4.3ghz with two good SP fans on it.
Interesting. Have had zero problems. It performs well and allows for OCing. What TIM are you using? I've used both the included TIM, Arctic Silver and as well as a couple others. The TIM included actually seems to work the best, oddly.
 

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Interesting. Have had zero problems. It performs well and allows for OCing. What TIM are you using? I've used both the included TIM, Arctic Silver and as well as a couple others. The TIM included actually seems to work the best, oddly.

I had anything from IC diamond to noctua to coolermaster goop. This is a commonly known thing.
 

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Ok, your experience was bad, mine was overwhelmingly good. I must be wrong. Moving on.

I am far from the only person who has seen that issue with the T4, the thermal capacity is quite low for it. I have installed them in customer builds as well and each and every time they were a disappointment. They actually cannot keep a 5960x/6950x cool at stock. Those systems would come back in BSoD'ing. I assume all of your experience is with lower wattage chips? Certainly nothing over 140w.
 

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Tested my 1700 with some cores disabled, at 4C8T i managed to get into BIOS at 4.275GHz 1.45v

i noticed mine crashes at 76C, so i think heat is whats stopping me OCing further (and sanity from going above 1.45v)

Lex: what CPU you use changes how coolers perform drastically, dropping 4 cores off my 1700 took 30C off my temps - if you're running a lower wattage CPU, your results are gunna be totally different to cda's since he's specifically mentioned the high core count, high wattage chips
 
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I am far from the only person who has seen that issue with the T4, the thermal capacity is quite low for it. I have installed them in customer builds as well and each and every time they were a disappointment. They actually cannot keep a 5960x/6950x cool at stock. Those systems would come back in BSoD'ing. I assume all of your experience is with lower wattage chips? Certainly nothing over 140w.
None of the Ryzen AM4 CPU's are rated higher than 95w. Even pushing them to 4ghz isn't going push them to far above 115w. Don't know what more to tell you, but my experiences have been good.
Tested my 1700 with some cores disabled, at 4C8T i managed to get into BIOS at 4.275GHz 1.45v i noticed mine crashes at 76C, so i think heat is whats stopping me OCing further (and sanity from going above 1.45v) Lex: what CPU you use changes how coolers perform drastically, dropping 4 cores off my 1700 took 30C off my temps - if you're running a lower wattage CPU, your results are gunna be totally different to cda's since he's specifically mentioned the high core count, high wattage chips
That's just it, been using the T4 on R7/R5 build's as well as i5/i7 build's and have not had any issues with heat or thermal-throttling under load, with an OC applied. The temps have never exceeded 70c on a 1800x as long as the fan profile is allowed to max out, which does get a bit on the noisy side of things. To be fair the Hyper 212 keeps the temps lower but the fans being used by both are the same so the fan noise is about the same as well. The Intel builds didn't perform much differently, but then most of those have been quad cores. With the 6/8 core variants I use something with 6 heatpipes. But as this is a Ryzen thread, and I've been referencing experiences with Ryzen based builds.
 

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70C at 4ghz is a bit of a joke the wraith cooler can do better than that. That is also within a couple of degrees of it becoming unstable, just out of temps.
 
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70C at 4ghz is a bit of a joke the wraith cooler can do better than that. That is also within a couple of degrees of it becoming unstable, just out of temps.
70c, MAX not constant, running Prime95 64bit on all threads stable for an 8 hour test run is bad? I don't think so. If that is why people think the T4 is lacking, then the difference of perspectives is academic. It does the job I ask of it and does is well.

FYI, the 4.4ghz on the R5 I mentioned earlier? On a Hyper T4 and it never broke 70c. IIRC it never got above 65c. So there is that.
 
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You keep going to lower and lower wattage/core count chips. I was quite specific when I said what was killing them. The 8 core chips can quite easily surpass 140w which is the absolute max the t4 can even think of handling. I have my own batch of expectations and the t4 was a giant let down when the hyper 212 cost with in dollars of it and was sometimes cheaper. The hyper 212 is the absolute minimum I recommend in an air cooler.
 
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You keep going to lower and lower wattage/core count chips. I was quite specific when I said what was killing them.
You seemed to have missed the part where I mentioned the use of R7. So let me be specific. I have used the Hyper T4 on a Ryzen 7 OC'ed to 4ghz with a modest voltage bump and did NOT encounter any stability problems.
The 8 core chips can quite easily surpass 140w which is the absolute max the t4 can even think of handling.
I have never seen that level of wattage use from any of the Ryzen systems I have built. Intel chips are rated at that wattage level stock, but not Ryzen. They are all 65w or 95w parts. Even when OC'd they have never topped 120w.
I have my own batch of expectations and the t4 was a giant let down when the hyper 212 cost with in dollars of it and was sometimes cheaper. The hyper 212 is the absolute minimum I recommend in an air cooler.
You're expectations are your own. They do not apply to everyone.

So again, your experience was bad, mine was overwhelmingly good. I must be wrong. Let's move on.
 
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You seemed to have missed the part where I mentioned the use of R7. So let me be specific. I have used the Hyper T4 on a Ryzen 7 OC'ed to 4ghz with a modest voltage bump and did NOT encounter any stability problems.

I have never seen that level of wattage use from any of the Ryzen systems I have built. Intel chips are rated at that wattage level stock, but not Ryzen. They are all 65w or 95w parts. Even when OC'd they have never topped 120w.

You're expectations are your own. They do not apply to everyone.

So again, your experience was bad, mine was overwhelmingly good. I must be wrong. Let's move on.

4ghz is a mild overclock. Under load and overclocked I have easily surpassed 120w. That wasn't even a prime95 load, just AMD's little rendering benchmark, but hey what do I know about Ryzen I only had a prerelease review chip before w1z even got his, burned through 3 Asus Crosshair boards as those of us in that prerelease crowd found out that the BIOS was fubar. Had one of the first Ryzen chips pushing 3800+ mhz memory and personally pushed multiple other boards to the point where the mosfets shut down.

Yes let us live up to your mild expectations. You are the only person on this forum with any experience with anything.
 
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