[US] Ryzen Threadripper 1900X for $170 & AMD Ryzen 3 2200G for $80

biffzinker · Sep 16, 2019

The 1900X would make a fantastic stand in for a later Threadripper 3xxx series.

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Vayra86 · Sep 16, 2019

A 2200G for 80 bucks is quite normal isn't it? I paid 80-some for mine a year ago, and its up here at 85 eur right now.

Here's the price stat for my country (NL) (just for some insights)

kapone32 · Sep 16, 2019

I can't get over how cheap TR4 is now!! All I can say is way to go AMD!!!

biffzinker · Sep 16, 2019

Vayra86 said:
A 2200G for 80 bucks is quite normal isn't it? I paid 80-some for mine a year ago, and its up here at 85 eur right now.

Here's the price stat for my country (NL) (just for some insights)

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Amazon had it marked down to $59.99 on Sept. 5th

kapone32 said:
I can't get over how cheap TR4 is now!! All I can say is way to go AMD!!!

Threadripper 2920X is down at $375 from $649 (USD)
Lowest price was $328.82 on August 20th

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Vayra86 · Sep 16, 2019

60, now THAT is a steal.

xkm1948 · Sep 16, 2019

I don't know. 1900X is way too slow in both productivity and gaming to be even considered these days. 1950X at this price yeah at least it will have 16 cores and quad channel. With just 8 cores 1900X is in a really awkward position.

kapone32 · Sep 16, 2019

If someone came to me and asked for a system whether bare bones or high end I could not look past the deals that can be had for some AMD processors. I can't believe the 1900X is cheaper than the 1800X. A 2920X for $375 is ridiculous value for money. I don't believe there is a processor better in value than that right now.

xkm1948 said:
I don't know. 1900X is way too slow in both productivity and gaming to be even considered these days. 1950X at this price yeah at least it will have 16 cores and quad channel. With just 8 cores 1900X is in a really awkward position.

Umh I had the 1900X and it is faster than the 1800, 1900 and 2700X according to my own testing and none of those chips are slouches in what you reference. There is no need for Quad channel and X399 will boot with 1 stick of RAM just fine, If you really think about it it is in a good awkward position as the next consoles will have 8 cores /16 threads based on Ryzen.

HenrySomeone · Sep 16, 2019

xkm1948 said:
I don't know. 1900X is way too slow in both productivity and gaming to be even considered these days. 1950X at this price yeah at least it will have 16 cores and quad channel. With just 8 cores 1900X is in a really awkward position.

Precisely - considering the cost of the rest of the platform, 1900X isn't even worth that much to be honest...

kapone32 said:
If someone came to me and asked for a system whether bare bones or high end I could not look past the deals that can be had for some AMD processors. I can't believe the 1900X is cheaper than the 1800X. A 2920X for $375 is ridiculous value for money. I don't believe there is a processor better in value than that right now.

For an entry level render-type workstation, but for a more general purpose one - not so much...

kapone32 · Sep 16, 2019

HenrySomeone said:
Precisely - considering the cost of the rest of the platform, 1900X isn't even worth that much to be honest...

What do you mean rest of platform?

HenrySomeone · Sep 16, 2019

X399 Motherboard, compatible cooler and 4 sticks of ram to make full use of it, what else would I mean?

xkm1948 · Sep 16, 2019

kapone32 said:
What do you mean rest of platform?

X399 mobo are quite costly. Also to take advantage of X399 you need quad channel DRAM kit. That adds up cost fast.

1900X was weird even during launch, as at that time 1700X/1800X were already better value.

Honestly 1900X feels to me is just AMD trying their best to salvage all usable parts. For a HEDT platform it is really bad value. Same as those quad core CPUs on the X299 platform: very stupid

phanbuey · Sep 16, 2019

yeah a 2700 and a cheap as dirt b450 board at 4.0 ghz (which is easy) will net you the same if not better performance than the 1900x.

Might be a good chip if the new TRs are backwards comptible with that socket. Just get that as a cheap hold over until you can slot a 32 core behemoth in there.

biffzinker · Sep 16, 2019

Supposedly the 1920X was on sale at Amazon for $200 but it must of sold out already.

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xkm1948 · Sep 16, 2019

phanbuey said:
yeah a 2700 and a cheap as dirt b450 board at 4.0 ghz (which is easy) will net you the same if not better performance than the 1900x.

Might be a good chip if the new TRs are backwards comptible with that socket. Just get that as a cheap hold over until you can slot a 32 core behemoth in there.

First gen X399 board probably don't have enough VRM to handle Zen2 TR

biffzinker said:
Supposedly the 1920X was on sale at Amazon for $200 but it must of sold out already.

$200 for 1950X would be good value. 3900X and a good B450 mobo still runs cheaper AND faster than 1920X

phanbuey · Sep 16, 2019

xkm1948 said:
First gen X399 board probably don't have enough VRM to handle Zen2 TR

That's so unfortunate. I feel for the TR people...

Although they should have enough VRM to at least handle the 16 core version, no?

xkm1948 · Sep 16, 2019

phanbuey said:
That's so unfortunate. I feel for the TR people...

Although they should have enough VRM to at least handle the 16 core version, no?

Nobody knows for sure. ASUS had to come out with a separate VRM cooling module during Threadripper 2 launch for their 1st gen TR board.

Having used both 1st gen TR and 2nd gen TR quite extensively, I will admit the 1st gen TR platform feels a bit half baked. 2nd gen TR and TR mobo definitely feels better, but still not at Intel's HEDT quality. Don't get me wrong I LOVE all the high speed cores. There just seems to be a lot of small quirks that such an expensive platform should not have, i.e: not polished enough.

I will be reading TR3 reviews carefully before making a jump onto TR3 as my home platform.

kapone32 · Sep 16, 2019

xkm1948 said:
X399 mobo are quite costly. Also to take advantage of X399 you need quad channel DRAM kit. That adds up cost fast.

1900X was weird even during launch, as at that time 1700X/1800X were already better value.

Honestly 1900X feels to me is just AMD trying their best to salvage all usable parts. For a HEDT platform it is really bad value. Same as those quad core CPUs on the X299 platform: very stupid

If you compare them to X470 no doubt. There is no need to use Quad channel RAM for X399; Yes it does support it but it is not a requirement. I agree that the 1700/1800 were a better value but it depends on what you want. If you just want a computer I agree with phanbuey that a B450 and 2700X would be good. The 1900X was for users like me that want as many expansion slots as possible, I like to compare X399 to X570 in terms of cost/value. When I look at that I get things like this.

1. On X570 even though you get 3 NVME drives the bottom 2 are wired to the chipset.
2. On X570 if you populate 2 PCI_E 16 slots the 3rd one will run at 0
3. On X570 if you use 4 sticks of RAM they run dual channel

1. On X399 all of the expansion slos are wired to the CPU
2. On X399 you get a minimum of 3 X16 slots all wired as such (mostly 16*8*16*8 across 4 slots)
3. On X399 if you use 4 sticks of RAM they run Quad channel

Then I look at cost. The chepaest X399 board:

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The 1900 does look pale in comparison to it's big brothers (1920,2920,2950,2970,2990) but it is by no means a weak CPU. A first gen Ryzen chip that can OC to 4.1 across all cores at 1.325 volts is no slouch. It may indeed be salvaged parts but let's remember Dr Su said that TR4 would be the top 5% binned Ryzen chips.

xkm1948 said:
First gen X399 board probably don't have enough VRM to handle Zen2 TR

$200 for 1950X would be good value. 3900X and a good B450 mobo still runs cheaper AND faster than 1920X

The 3900X is faster but in no way cheaper than the 1920. In Canada the 3900X is currently 3 times the cost of the 1920X. Using that I would pay almost $1000 for the chip and between 100 to 150 for the B450 board.

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xkm1948 · Sep 16, 2019

If I am in the market I would always buy the latest for the sake of a bit longer product support (UEFI updates, security patches, PCIE Gen4 and etc.), not some 2 generation old discount stuff. But that is just me. So you do you!

biffzinker · Sep 16, 2019

Socket TR4 is still going to get TR 3 after all. Whether PCIe 4 is a must have though is up to those already on X399. I do know no one is trying to rattle the tiger cage for a unsavory response.

HenrySomeone · Sep 16, 2019

xkm1948 said:
Having used both 1st gen TR and 2nd gen TR quite extensively, I will admit the 1st gen TR platform feels a bit half baked. 2nd gen TR and TR mobo definitely feels better, but still not at Intel's HEDT quality. Don't get me wrong I LOVE all the high speed cores. There just seems to be a lot of small quirks that such an expensive platform should not have, i.e: not polished enough.

Yeah, AMD is cheaper for a reason; I know quite a couple of people who went from older Intel HEDT platforms (mostly X79, one still had x58 before) to TR4 and are by now either back on Intel or are currently begrudgingly biting the bullet...

xkm1948 · Sep 16, 2019

HenrySomeone said:
Yeah, AMD is cheaper for a reason; I know quite a couple of people who went from older Intel HEDT platforms (mostly X79, one still had x58 before) to TR4 and are by now either back on Intel or are currently begrudgingly biting the bullet...

To me it felt like the MoBo makers did not have enough confidence in the TR platform as Intel's HEDT true competition. The mobo built quality improvement from TR1 to TR2 was pretty big. I can only hope by 3rd gen TR the MoBo makers actually spend sometime to polish their product. And as much as I hate ASUS's customer service, I will probably go with ASUS's ROG line for 3rd gen TR.

The Egg · Sep 16, 2019

Microcenter still has the 2200G for $59.

Cybrnook2002 · Sep 17, 2019

biffzinker said:
Supposedly the 1920X was on sale at Amazon for $200 but it must of sold out already.

It's still there: https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Threadri...&pd_rd_r=c11f47b3-410a-4ddd-a6fc-6acd3015ebf2

Keullo-e · Sep 17, 2019

Not bad for a HEDT entry level CPU, at least that gives all the benefits TR4 has vs AM4.

kapone32 · Sep 17, 2019

This is AMD we are talking about.

Chloe Price said:
Not bad for a HEDT entry level CPU, at least that gives all the benefits TR4 has vs AM4.

Entry level? Only the price. This is an entry level HEDT CPU

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[US] Ryzen Threadripper 1900X for $170 & AMD Ryzen 3 2200G for $80

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