Ryzen users, safe to upgrade windows 11?

[Roderika]

Hi guys, it is now a good time to upgrade to windows 11 for ryzen users? heard it has performance issues at launch

 

[eidairaman1]

Runs ok, but are you willing to switch to a boring and clunky GUI?

 

[Hyderz]

i'd hold off upgrading to 11, im kinda regretting moving to 11,
i should have waited until they fixed the clunkyness

 

[lemoncarbonate]

Runs ok, but are you willing to switch to a boring and clunky GUI?

Haha.. exactly. Imo some of W11's UIs are straight downgrade from W10.
I'm very satisfied with W10 and don't see the appeal of upgrading to W11 for now, or maybe for years.

 

[toastem2004]

Technically, yes, it is safe to move to Windows 11. I haven't noticed any issues on my 5600x or my 2500u.
Now should you? Thats a personal question. There are some UI design issues to get over, and the settings page is "messy" to say the least. But it does work, I have not had any system stopping issues.
To note, I also have windows 11 on a Dell 5070 (Intel i7-9700) at work that is also without issues.

 

[Chomiq]

I love it how just yesterday I got notification on my work laptop that I can upgrade to W11, I used "Hide for now" function. Today I'm greeted by the oh familiar installation window "Windows 11 is so amazing, let's update your PC" which was prompted by nothing. I love the wording on that window, you can't select "Not today" or "Skip for now", you have to click "Decline", which makes it sound like you're opting out.

I'm not touching it with my Ryzen desktop, at least not until 2-3 major updates are released.

 

[Hyderz]

I love it how just yesterday I got notification on my work laptop that I can upgrade to W11, I used "Hide for now" function. Today I'm greeted by the oh familiar installation window "Windows 11 is so amazing, let's update your PC" which was prompted by nothing. I love the wording on that window, you can't select "Not today" or "Skip for now", you have to click "Decline", which makes it sound like you're opting out.

I'm not touching it with my Ryzen desktop, at least not until 2-3 major updates are released.

i should have done what you did, but i was lured by the shiny upgrade to windows 11 button.
silly me

 

[Chomiq]

i should have done what you did, but i was lured by the shiny upgrade to windows 11 button.
silly me

You can still revert to W10 unless it's been too long or you deleted the Windows_old folder.

 

[Halo3Addict]

Ryzen 5600x owner. Windows 11 has been running great. No crashes, VMs run flawlessly, games run great, and Microsoft is finally making the UI ubiquitous throughout the OS. Not sure what these other people are talking about

 

[Splinterdog]

I have it running on my secondary rig, a Ryzen 2600X without any problems at all. However, I'm holding off on my main rig, Ryzen 5600X because it will be a clean install which is not a five minute job.
I don't foresee any problems, but I just can't be bothered at the moment.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Win 11 is marmite. I have been using it for ages and don't mind it at all, you can tweak the UI if you don't like it. it does not seem to have any underlying issues it seems as i don't have any crashes of any kind on win 11. I kinda need to use it to fully support the ADL as it needs the win 11 scheduler.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I find the criticism of W11's UI being boring puzzling.

Are folks just sitting there, staring at the UI/desktop waiting to be entertained by the OS? I have to wonder, if bored, what kind of "excitement" are they looking for? Bells and whistles and pretty flashing lights?

I use my OS to launch programs - like my browser to view and reply to this TPU thread. I don't need (or even want) W11 to entertain me while I am waiting for my browser to load the thread. In fact, I expect the OS to immediately step out of the way. And W11 does.

The purpose of any OS is to facility communications between the various hardware components, to run our applications, and to do it all safely. W11 does that. Is that boring? Maybe. But why care? I don't use any computer so the OS can ease my boredom. If I want to be entertained, I fire up Pandorian (a great Pandora client app, BTW), play a game, or watch a video - something W11 lets me do with ease - without getting in the way!

Is there a learning curve that makes the new OS a bit awkward? Of course! Just like there was when upgrading from DOS to Windows 3, W3 to W95, W95 to W98, W98 to XP, XP to W7, W7 to W10 and now W10 to W11. Just like there was upgrading from an old android OS to a new android OS. Just like there was upgrading from the old MS Office to the new MS Office. Yet in each case, once folks gave it chance, the new UI became intuitive too.

People don't like change - I get that. I'm no exception. And it certainly is frustrating when change forces us to spend money (like I was forced to get a new cell phone because my old, reliable was 3G and my ISP is shutting 3G off in a couple weeks ).

@Maximiliano - We've upgraded quite a few "current" Ryzen processors here with no problems. But you did not specify which Ryzen (or other hardware - like your motherboard) you have. Many first gen/early models are not supported. See Microsoft's list of Windows 11 supported AMD processors (for Intel users, see Windows 11 supported Intel processors).

 

[Splinterdog]

@Bill_Bright
Many of us like the so called bells and whistles which make upgrading more fun. News styles, themes, taskbars etc. Mind you, once I've selected how I want Windows to look, I generally leave it that way.
Each to his own.

 

[R0H1T]

What is this 2011 (2012?) the windows UI hasn't really had a "major" overhaul since win8 ~ it's like some of you folks forgot to ditch your XP machines & then jumped from win7 to win11 directly

 

[windwhirl]

Hi guys, it is now a good time to upgrade to windows 11 for ryzen users? heard it has performance issues at launch

Performance issues should be fixed by now.

However, do you have a need to upgrade to W11? Or is it just because it's the latest version?

If you're comfortable with Windows 10, there's not much reason to upgrade to Windows 11, outside of the Android apps thing (which is still in beta, so not really available for stable-W11 users), or DirectStorage (which will still make its way to Windows 10 and it's mostly developer-dependent, so really, it has to be included with the game to begin with), or the UX changes (which I won't get into because everyone sees those differently, so it's more like a grey area and not really negative or positive).

Additionally, and adding to Bill's question, which Zen version are you running on? Original Zen (Ryzen 1000 series and the 2000 series APUs) is not officially supported. You can bypass that limitation (and it's rather easy and problem-free to do so) but Microsoft doesn't really provide official support for it, so the future of Windows 11 on unsupported configurations isn't exactly clear (so far it works fine, you get updates and everything, and some have said that it works even better than Windows 10 did on those configurations). And Zen+ (Ryzen 2000 series and the 3000 series APUs) lacks support for Mode-Based Execution Control, which presents a performance issue if you're planning on enabling Memory Integrity (security measure). So far Memory Integrity can be disabled if you want, but with Microsoft pushing so hard for it (and other things), who knows if they wouldn't dare enable it by force in some future update.

What is this 2011 (2012?) the windows UI hasn't really had a "major" overhaul since win8 ~ it's like some of you folks forgot to ditch your XP machines & then jumped from win7 to win11 directly

Mostly agreed with this. Windows 8 was the only major change of the UX (though a rather detrimental one) in many years. There have been some interesting changes if you compare W7 to 10, but it isn't that major of a change.

Still, lots of people will have some reaction to Windows 11's UX changes, be they negative or positive.

 

[xrobwx71]

I find the criticism of W11's UI being boring puzzling.

Are folks just sitting there, staring at the UI/desktop waiting to be entertained by the OS? I have to wonder, if bored, what kind of "excitement" are they looking for? Bells and whistles and pretty flashing lights?

I use my OS to launch programs - like my browser to view and reply to this TPU thread. I don't need (or even want) W11 to entertain me while I am waiting for my browser to load the thread. In fact, I expect the OS to immediately step out of the way. And W11 does.

The purpose of any OS is to facility communications between the various hardware components, to run our applications, and to do it all safely. W11 does that. Is that boring? Maybe. But why care? I don't use any computer so the OS can ease my boredom. If I want to be entertained, I fire up Pandorian (a great Pandora client app, BTW), play a game, or watch a video - something W11 lets me do with ease - without getting in the way!

Is there a learning curve that makes the new OS a bit awkward? Of course! Just like there was when upgrading from DOS to Windows 3, W3 to W95, W95 to W98, W98 to XP, XP to W7, W7 to W10 and now W10 to W11. Just like there was upgrading from an old android OS to a new android OS. Just like there was upgrading from the old MS Office to the new MS Office. Yet in each case, once folks gave it chance, the new UI became intuitive too.

People don't like change - I get that. I'm no exception. And it certainly is frustrating when change forces us to spend money (like I was forced to get a new cell phone because my old, reliable was 3G and my ISP is shutting 3G off in a couple weeks ).

@Maximiliano - We've upgraded quite a few "current" Ryzen processors here with no problems. But you did not specify which Ryzen (or other hardware - like your motherboard) you have. Many first gen/early models are not supported. See Microsoft's list of Windows 11 supported AMD processors (for Intel users, see Windows 11 supported Intel processors).

Every new version of Windows gets the UI naysayers. It's like death and taxes.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Many of us like the so called bells and whistles which make upgrading more fun. News styles, themes, taskbars etc. Mind you, once I've selected how I want Windows to look, I generally leave it that way.

And that's fine, I really have no problem with that. But again - when you fire up (or wake) your computer, how much time do you spend being entertained by those bells and whistles? Or do you immediately start using one of your favorite applications or games -programs that take over the UI? And in a couple months, when the "newness" and novelty of the new OS wears off, are you still going to be entertained? Are you really going to miss the entertainment once the new OS becomes second nature?

For me, one of the first things I always do on my new builds is disable boot splash screens and those "bells and whistles" so I can get to my app as quickly as I can. But maybe that is just me. IDK. I don't think so, however.

Each to his own.

Every new version of Windows gets the UI naysayers. It's like death and taxes.

I agree. But I have to wonder how persistent and vocal those naysayers would be if Windows didn't have the Microsoft brand on it.

Oh well.

Windows 8 was the only major change of the UX (though a rather detrimental one) in many years.

True. But in reality W8, the OS itself, was a great OS. That is, as usually happens, the developers did a great job! The problem was the UI was a total "marketing fiasco" - perpetrated on us consumers simply because the Microsoft marketing weenies and execs assumed us consumers would immediately accept and fall in love with the "Metro UI", then next time we went shopping for a new cell phone, we would immediately choose a Microsoft Phone over an Android or Apple.

Again - great development, lousy marketing plan and executive decisions. If those MS execs allowed consumers the option to use the new W8 UI or stick with something like W7's, I have no doubt W8 would have been a success. But instead, MS tried to shove W8's Metro UI down our throats. Not cool!

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But we are driving this thread OT - my apologies to Maximiliano for my (rather big ) part in that!

 

[xrobwx71]

I agree. But I have to wonder how persistent and vocal those naysayers would be if Windows didn't have the Microsoft brand on it.

^This is it.

The ease at which one can change all of it, OpenShell, Start11, etc would seem a choice.

I get it, it's not going to be a perfect OOBE for everyone. Too many variables and opinions.

 

[erpguy53]

Performance issues should be fixed by now.

they've been fixed since the KB5006746 update (and on AMD's side with updated Ryzen drivers)
and W11 users should obtain revised/updated Win11 install iso media containing at least build 22000.318 (quietly released mid-Nov. 2021 by MS) instead of the original W11 install iso media (from early Oct. 2021) that had the buggy 22000.194 build

 

[sneekypeet]

My only real niggle with w11 is the right click menu. Depending on what you do with a PC, you have to tick more options just to get to the old menu to let you do what you wanted to. Other than that, I haven't seen reasons not to try it.

 

[GerKNG]

i use it since day one and have zero problems (except when we had the cache problem that was fixed pretty fast)
it's the new OS. it will be the future if we want or not... i got used to it pretty quickly and i was a defender of having the windows icon and programs at the bottom left but now i never want them anywhere except in the middle.

overall i am happy with it and it works without issues.

 

[MentalAcetylide]

Hi guys, it is now a good time to upgrade to windows 11 for ryzen users? heard it has performance issues at launch

I'm avoiding Windows 11 altogether and sticking with Windows 10 for now. My system is happy as it is. Like they say, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
Imo, they need to stick to a Windows 7 style interface, or at least have an option for it, in later Windows versions that followed it. I just don't see the need for completely obliterating the older versions with entirely new interfaces other than to be able to say "Hey, its different".

 

[Ibizadr]

I only updated to w11 when MS delivers DirectStorage and android apps in a final version. For now it seems they dropped that new OS in a beta version after beta version

 

[27MaD]

It's running fine, i do recommend staying on Win 10 currently if you're using it.

 

[harm9963]

For sure a learning curve, was for me and after being a windows insider , on 10 and 11, you will or someone will always have issues , that's the nature of the beast , it comes down to you and what your doing , for a job , stay with what you know , its bad enough ,there will still be issues , reason for support , especially at work !
that being said , I have two PC systems , if you thrive on fixing stuff , its a fun hobby .