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Sabertooth, Premium or ROG?

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#1
There a couple of ROG boards that mite suit me because I like to overclock my CPU and ram to around 4.8 and 2100mhz (that maybe how I killed my last board). And I like a bit of BF3. But my main interests are Adobe prem pro, photoshop and Cubase. Which the Asus Premium is aimed at I think. But then there is the Sabertooth which is cheaper and probably harder to break. How is the sabertooth at OC'ing and gaming?
 

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Photoshop, Cubase and Premier Pro and gaming will all work the same on any of the boards.

Get the sabertooth. It will OC your chip to it's limits and like you said, it is the least expensive.
 
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Well that's settled it then. I won't spend more money than I have to. I do like the on board mSATA on the premium board, it would be great for Prem Pro scratch disk, but it's not worth twice the price of the Sabertooth.
 
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You can always take the cover off and it runs cooler. 3-4c

I once kicked mine (Not on purpose) and still works fine. I was moving thing around and I had the side cover off and reaching over the desk.

O/Cs fine highest i've seen mine from any of the readouts is 41c during hot summer days.
 
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Asus ROG boards are overpriced IMO. I tested every Z77 motherboard and all midrange boards will easily achieve 4.8GHz on a 2600K. IMO, you should look at MSI's Z77-GD65. I overclocked a retail 2600K to 5.2GHz. The board is wonderful and will suit your everyneed and CPU performance will be equal(or very close) on any Z77 board. The MSI Z77-GD65 will only set you back $169 at NewEgg.
 
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I'll google that MSI board. It's looking like it is between that and the Sabertooth. I thought the cover was to help cooling, I assumed it had fans in it. I have drilled lots of little holes in the back of my case, behind the cpu and fitted a fan to pull hot air away from the cpu and the back of the board, seems to work a little bit.
 

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Gigabyte Z77X UP4 or UP5.

The cover on the Sabertooth motherboards really doesn't do much other then offer aesthetics.
 
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Its more for aesthetics

Dust guard.

I have 2 (120) + 2 (120) fans blowing air in to case. 2 (120) exhaust fans on top. All run on low for noise reduction.

The two motherboard fans are exhaust. Wouldnt make sense to have GPU heat push in-ward or exhaust case/radiator heat push back in. other thing to consider is you have to set them on low if you dont want to hear the little suckers. They get loud and at which point your better off just no using them or if you absolutely want a cooler board just take the cover off but overclocking isnt an issue.

You can get to 4.8ghz no problem but I run at 4.5ghz just to not hear my fans. going for the quiet build as much as possible

Sabertooth your buying longer lasting product with the warranty. If thats not an issue the regular boards are fine with similar specs at slightly less price.
 
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I like the Maximus V Formula, the VRM coolers' hybrid liquid/air design, the Extreme Engine Digi+II (finest Japan-made 10K Black Metallic capacitors). this board should OC like mad if you can decipher the purpose and optimum value of all the settings (even more tweaks than their channel board BIOS, and explained only slightly better). Yes, it's $280, but for that you get a premium product and Asus Premium Support (goodies like cross-shipping RMAs). The ROG forums are excellent as well, offering a level of support few can match.
 

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Sabertooth your buying longer lasting product with the warranty.
I think it's safe to say that ASUS makes a good product but you really don't want to have to use their support and RMA. I've heard way too many horror stories.
 

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Asus ROG boards are overpriced IMO. I tested every Z77 motherboard and all midrange boards will easily achieve 4.8GHz on a 2600K. IMO, you should look at MSI's Z77-GD65. I overclocked a retail 2600K to 5.2GHz. The board is wonderful and will suit your everyneed and CPU performance will be equal(or very close) on any Z77 board. The MSI Z77-GD65 will only set you back $169 at NewEgg.
MSI GD65 is my current, and will overclock to the chips limits. I also used a Sabertooth on my 8350 and got 5Ghz, there was no reason for me to spend any more on a MoBo above the Sabertooth. I then bought a Crosshair V Formulas for the 8350, which didnt achieve similar clocks so easily without HEAVY tweaking, and then the board fried my processor, so i went back to the sabertooth.
 
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Well this has been a very insightful thread. It has been about 2 years since I last stressed my eyes over motherboards. I like the Z77 chipset and will be buying a Z77 board but this makes things a bit more complicated because I have a 2700k and crossfire. From what I've read today it seems that Sandy Bridge and crossfire on Z77 isn't a perfect scenario, or should I say isn't as good as Ivy bridge in this scenario. Have I miss understood?
 
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The only difference is that Sandy doesn't support PCIe 3.0, but I don't believe it matters yet, because the latest high-end cards can't even saturate the PCIe 2.0 lanes of Z68 boards. The real issue with CrossFireX (or SLI for that matter) is usually driver-related, causing scalability problems and jittering. But I think problems with multiple graphics cards are a lot less common now, and you should be okay.
 
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sabertooth= +looks -features
ROG= +looks +features (+ price)
Premium = most but not all features and blue looks :)
 
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Perhaps, ASUS P8Z77-V PREMIUM will be suited your needs.
if he only needs oc, and gaming not M-SSD caching they the Premium is too much, u need to focus on what u actually need.

i still have my Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/Gen3 in use with a i5-3570k, 16gigs of memory and a asus dc2 gtx 670 4gb and still do what i want even i could use more sata ports sometimes :roll:

if u can live with micro-atx i would take the Asus Maximus V Gene.