Safe operating temperature for Samsung 980 pro 1/2 TB?

[Tomgang]

Maybe Samsung should look into lower temps on the 990 SSD's if not I am going full Sabrent next time even I like the Samsung Magician tool easy to use and firmware upgrade.

I would hope they can lower temp. I have since 2011 only used Samsung and crucial SSD. Never had a single one from any of them failing on me. I have never had a SSD failing on me in fact.

 

[claes]

All temperatures are just fine. It's the SSD in the mini-itx system that is the problem, cause it's not getting to much airflow. Cpu and gpu temp is not a problem. We'll with in safe temp. 5600X maxing out at 70 degrees celsius stock and 5950X max out at 55 degrees celsius stock and gpu's at 72 for gtx 1660 super and gtx 1650 max out at 76 degrees celsius. It's only the SSD in mini itx that is my concern. Every thing else is fine.

Reducing your chassis’s temperature will reduce your SSD temperature. The two are directly correlated. If the air around the SSD is cooler the SSD will run cooler.

If you are exhausting the cool air from the front intakes out of the side then you are mitigating the cooling of your front intakes. Chassis temperature will be hotter than it could be if you were to introduce more cool air from the side.

Again, I may just be misreading the pic and everything could be fine, but your responses aren’t even addressing the question...

:shrug:

 

[Tomgang]

Reducing your chassis’s temperature will reduce your SSD temperature. The two are directly correlated. If the air around the SSD is cooler the SSD will run cooler.

If you are exhausting the cool air from the front intakes out of the side then you are mitigating the cooling of your front intakes. Chassis temperature will be hotter than it could be if you were to introduce more cool air from the side.

:shrug:

You haven't under stand my concept of the fans then. The fans exhausting out in the front is controlled but by the mini itx system and the front fans are controlled by the atx system. Meaning when only one of the systems turned on. It's either the front fans or the front exhaust fans that are running. When both systems are running, the front exhaust fans are disabled, meaning they are not turning at all. Do you understand the concept better now?

 

[FireFox]

It seems Samsung just runs hot.

It doesn't seems, it is a fact that they run hot
If you read in Reddit about the Samsung SSD temps, all comes to the same conclusion. HOT

So it seems you as well have SSD running hot in games when the weather is hot

I didn't expect better temps from a SSD behind a 3080 GPU

 

[claes]

You haven't under stand my concept of the fans then.

To be fair to me you haven’t made any attempt to explain this at all until now — if you had answered the question in the first place I would’ve understood and argued against it

The fans exhausting out in the front is controlled but by the mini itx system and the front fans are controlled by the atx system. Meaning when only one of the systems turned on. It's either the front fans or the front exhaust fans that are running. When both systems are running, the front exhaust fans are disabled, meaning they are not turning at all. Do you understand the concept better now?

This just seems like bad airflow to me... I have to admit that when I was reading your build log I didn’t understand the need for two Aqueros — it makes sense now, but I think it’s inefficient.

Are the side exhaust fans the only difference when either system is on? Meaning do any of your other fan sets behave differently when a particular system is on? Also, and again, my apologies if I’m misreading the pics, are you sure it’s setup this way? It looks like all of your fans are spinning in the pics.

IMO, you’re doing a disservice to your cooling potential with those fans as exhaust. Could you explain your airflow configuration in more detail?

IIRC, with just the itx system on, all of the airflow from the bottom intakes is being pulled out of the side before it ever reaches the itx system. You’re essentially pulling air away from the itx system in a negative pressure setup, relying on convection from the system, preventing airflow to the SSD/itx system by pulling it away. If the top exhausts are running in this configuration it’s even worse.

I would run the side exhausts as intakes regardless of which system is running, and especially when both are running. I don’t mean to be rude, but I can’t imagine a scenario where running them as exhaust helps with cooling anything.

Just my 2 cents, maybe there’s a layout you’ve setup that I haven’t even considered that resolves my concern! Hell, my suggestion probably won’t yield more than a couple of degrees off of your SSD, so maybe it’s all moot anyway.

 

[FireFox]

Off topic.
When i was building my main Rig ( end of November 2020 ) my initial plan was to build a dual System but then i gave up just because where the itx should be placed there's not the possibility to install a rear exhaust fan.

Top rear exhaust is a waste, if they designed the case for dual system why instead didn't they add one exhaust bottom.

 

[ThrashZone]

I would hope they can lower temp. I have since 2011 only used Samsung and crucial SSD. Never had a single one from any of them failing on me. I have never had a SSD failing on me in fact.

Hi,
I wouldn't count on it
I installed this type of heatsink on 970 evo plus and 970 evo it works pretty good maxes out at 65c idle at 41c but some boards might not leave enough room for it.

Amazon.com: Advancing Gene M.2 NVMe Cooler Heatsink with 20mm PWM Fan (3rd Gen): Electronics

 

[Tomgang]

Hi,
I wouldn't count on it
I installed this type of heatsink on 970 evo plus and 970 evo it works pretty good maxes out at 65c idle at 41c but some boards might not leave enough room for it.

Amazon.com: Advancing Gene M.2 NVMe Cooler Heatsink with 20mm PWM Fan (3rd Gen): Electronics

Oh that's actually a pretty neat little thing. A heatsink with a fan. That would be perfect in my situation as airflow is very limited in my case. Unfortunately, heatsinks like that is not sold in my country for what I have truet to find.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Too bad the little fan is holding up well but not cheap I do hate hot spots
I did get the warranty offer too just in case it dies prematurely there are a bunch of this type of device out there

 

[Shou Miko]

Oh that's actually a pretty neat little thing. A heatsink with a fan. That would be perfect in my situation as airflow is very limited in my case. Unfortunately, heatsinks like that is not sold in my country for what I have truet to find.

It's expensive: https://www.computersalg.dk/i/6702357/raidsonic-icy-box-ib-m2hs-70-solid-state-drevkøler-sort

 

[Tomgang]

Hi,
Too bad the little fan is holding up well but not cheap I do hate hot spots
I did get the warranty offer too just in case it dies prematurely there are a bunch of this type of device out there

Price is not so important. For me it's more important to keep my hardware and files safe. But I think puma99 below just found the solution to the problem.

It's expensive: https://www.computersalg.dk/i/6702357/raidsonic-icy-box-ib-m2hs-70-solid-state-drevkøler-sort

Heck yeah, that's perfect and in my country even. Price is fine and I have all ready spend a lot on my pc, so a few more can't hurt.

Edit: 3 piece of heatsink ordered. Let's see how this goes together with those new thermal pads. If this doesn't lower temp, I don't know what will.

 

[Shou Miko]

Price is not so important. For me it's more important to keep my hardware and files safe. But I think puma99 below just found the solution to the problem.


Heck yeah, that's perfect and in my country even. Price is fine and I have all ready spend a lot on my pc, so a few more can't hurt.

Edit: 3 piece of heatsink ordered. Let's see how this goes together with those new thermal pads. If this doesn't lower temp, I don't know what will.

Your welcome Tomgang, please tell us how it go with it and temps of cause.

I am maybe thinking about buying one for myself.

 

[ThrashZone]

Price is not so important. For me it's more important to keep my hardware and files safe. But I think puma99 below just found the solution to the problem.


Heck yeah, that's perfect and in my country even. Price is fine and I have all ready spend a lot on my pc, so a few more can't hurt.

Edit: 3 piece of heatsink ordered. Let's see how this goes together with those new thermal pads. If this doesn't lower temp, I don't know what will.

Hi,
Temp is a bit better than I remember
Temp 1 and temp 2 on these sammy m.2's are way different usually now within 5c of each other the high rpm on it I can't hear it at all so it's very quiet too
This is on my apex using the dimm_2 slot

 

[Tomgang]

Your welcome Tomgang, please tell us how it go with it and temps of cause.

I am maybe thinking about buying one for myself.

I shall report back. But there will go 2 or 3 weeks. Do to vacation.

Hi,
Temp is a bit better than I remember
Temp 1 and temp 2 on these sammy m.2's are way different usually now within 5c of each other the high rpm on it I can't hear it at all so it's very quiet too
This is on my apex using the dimm_2 slot


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That is more acceptable temperature. I cut live with that. But not a peak at 68 degrees.

 

[ThrashZone]

I shall report back. But there will go 2 or 3 weeks. Do to vacation.


That is more acceptable temperature. I cut live with that. But not a peak at 68 degrees.

Hi,
Yeah post your existing temp1-2 min-max readouts now hwinfo is great and run CDM see what it does.

These sammy's aren't suppose to throttle until it hits like 90c+

 

[elghinnarisa]

Sometimes I think about slapping on the dominator cooler left over from a corsair RAM kit on the NVMe drive instead, seeing as I don't use it at all.
Though the spec sheet does say its within operating temperatures so, eh.

 

[Tomgang]

I was just thinking about one thing. That label that is on a Samsung SSD with model and serial number, covering the nand and controller.

Do you guys peel it of, before installing it and mount the heatsink?

I have not done that yet, because according to Samsung, doing so will void warranty. But it might have a negative effect on the SSD temperature as well.

 

[FireFox]

I was just thinking about one thing. That label that is on a Samsung SSD with model and serial number, covering the nand and controller.

Do you guys peel it of, before installing it and mount the heatsink?

I have not done that yet, because according to Samsung, doing so will void warranty. But it might have a negative effect on the SSD temperature as well.

Maybe not the answer you were looking for, but still

Btw, i dont remove it.

 

[claes]

24h later and I still can’t stop thinking about how those side-panel fans are running as exhaust it is driving my airflow obsessed mind insane lol

 

[FireFox]

24h later and I still can’t stop thinking about how those side-panel fans are running as exhaust it is driving my airflow obsessed mind insane lol

Just top and rear are exhaust, the rest are in

 

[Tomgang]

Maybe not the answer you were looking for, but still

Btw, i dont remove it.

Actually it was just the answer I needed, just more detailed and a good reason to why I shut leave them on. Thanks.

24h later and I still can’t stop thinking about how those side-panel fans are running as exhaust it is driving my airflow obsessed mind insane lol

The fans layout is not going to change, it's made with the intension of running two systems separately or together where the front side fans is disabled as in not running.

Just top and rear are exhaust, the rest are in

Actually the front side fans are exhaust as well. But only running when the mini-itx is turned on alone. If the atx system or both are running, they are disabled. I try to tell him that.

 

[claes]

Meh, it’s still poor airflow in your “very limited” airflow case (your words) and ultimately hurting chassis temps in all scenarios (this thread), but do you and enjoy your build!

 

[ThrashZone]

I was just thinking about one thing. That label that is on a Samsung SSD with model and serial number, covering the nand and controller.

Do you guys peel it of, before installing it and mount the heatsink?

I have not done that yet, because according to Samsung, doing so will void warranty. But it might have a negative effect on the SSD temperature as well.

Hi,
Think it's copper so not worth whacking warranty for removing it thermal pad won't care if it's there.

Not sure if you ran a heavy read/ write test when you said your m.2 is maxing at 70c
That's why I asked for a crystal disk mark run with hwinfo open so we can see the current temps like I posted.

 

[Tomgang]

Hi,
Think it's copper so not worth whacking warranty for removing it thermal pad won't care if it's there.

Not sure if you ran a heavy read/ write test when you said your m.2 is maxing at 70c
That's why I asked for a crystal disk mark run with hwinfo open so we can see the current temps like I posted.

I teste ilde and it peaked at 61 for nand and 72 degrees for the controller. 68 degrees peak is for nand with crystal disk mark running.

If you haven't seen it, I have ordered better thermal pads and a headsink with a fan. That i hope will be the solution to control SSD temp. It will run passive, but does it hit a preset temp, I will make i so that the fan kicks in and keeps it at that temp.

I'm planning on to keep the SSD between 50 degrees and 60 degrees on the nand, as low temp os also harmful for nand. The controller i Will try to keep at 75 degrees as max. Controller will all ways be hotter than the nand.

 

[ThrashZone]

I teste ilde and it peaked at 61 for nand and 72 degrees for the controller. 68 degrees peak is for nand with crystal disk mark running.

If you haven't seen it, I have ordered better thermal pads and a headsink with a fan. That i hope will be the solution to control SSD temp. It will run passive, but does it hit a preset temp, I will make i so that the fan kicks in and keeps it at that temp.

I'm planning on to keep the SSD between 50 degrees and 60 degrees on the nand, as low temp os also harmful for nand. The controller i Will try to keep at 75 degrees as max. Controller will all ways be hotter than the nand.

Hi,
I've seen worse temps than you have first hand actually my 970 evo and evo plus were both stupid hot in the 80c range lol
Little coolers helped a lot and narrowed temp1 and 2 a mile.