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Samsung 850 Evo or 850 Pro?

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Currently debating whether to get an 850 512GB Pro or an 850 500GB Evo.

What are the differences between these two SSD's? Is the Pro faster than the Evo? Is the Pro better quality? Does the pro run hotter than the Evo?

I'm more curious about the temps, whether or not the Pro runs hotter than the Evo and by how much hotter if so.
Thank you in advance
 
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Temps are the same, The pro has a longer life. More writes, 10 year warranty where the EVO has a 5 year. Speeds is the same.

I use a EVO has my system and games drive. I use a Pro for my temp drive for video editing

Ive never seen a firmware upgrade for the Pro version. I suspect they put more work into the firmware the first time
 

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the crucial mx200 has mlc nand like the 850 pro, but similar cost as the evo. Crucial also makes its own nand, like samsung. Crucial being a branch within Micron.
 
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Only difference would be evo if writeing like 4+gb of data might slow down as its cache will get full but not much. Evo's are still very good drive for price, one of the best.

As for heat, don't need to worry so much about heat with SSD's.
 
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Crucial only offer a 3 year warranty even on their MX200,

If the SSD going be under a lot of disk writes i would opt for the pro but if it's just installing games on it every so often then the EVO.
 
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the crucial mx200 has mlc nand like the 850 pro, but similar cost as the evo. Crucial also makes its own nand, like samsung. Crucial being a branch within Micron.

The 850 pro uses V-NAND, not MLC. V-NAND has better performance and endurance than MLC.
 

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The 850 pro uses V-NAND, not MLC. V-NAND has better performance and endurance than MLC.

the 850 Pro uses MLC V-NAND. Its vertically stacked MLC NAND. Image from Anandtech 850 Pro review. The 850 uses Samsungs 2nd gen V-NAND.

Its still MLC. Just like Toggle NAND can still considered MLC or TLC (In the case of the 840 Evo). All MLC means is Multi-Level Cell.
 
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the 850 Pro uses MLC V-NAND. Its vertically stacked MLC NAND. Image from Anandtech 850 Pro review. The 850 uses Samsungs 2nd gen V-NAND.

Its still MLC. Just like Toggle NAND can still considered MLC or TLC (In the case of the 840 Evo). All MLC means is Multi-Level Cell.

Yeah I know what it is.. But V-NAND is still a separate category of NAND, and it is still superior to the MLC that Crucial is using. To say the MLC in the MX200 is the same as the "MLC" in the 850 Pro is like saying a 3.9L V6 is the same as a 426 Hemi because they're both engines as an argument against the higher price of the Hemi.
 
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Samsung's V-Nand is in league of its own at the moment but quite frankly even the cheapest SSD will perform fine in bare eyes.
 
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Technically 3D V-NAND is TLC NAND and they are both MLC NAND's. Difference between 3D-V and TLC is how it is made. The 3D-V still has 3 cells, but they are designed with 3rd dimension where TLC is planar. What this means is that 3D-V is less prone to getting stuck, resulting in much more reliable and durable NAND memory. Where TLC cells tend to get stuck faster (an unavoidable side effect of toggling NAND cell states constantly). Plus, since it goes into 3rd dimension, you can fit more of it on the same surface size.
 
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Currently debating whether to get an 850 512GB Pro or an 850 500GB Evo.

What are the differences between these two SSD's? Is the Pro faster than the Evo? Is the Pro better quality? Does the pro run hotter than the Evo?

I'm more curious about the temps, whether or not the Pro runs hotter than the Evo and by how much hotter if so.
Thank you in advance

Performance between both SSDs are consistent in terms of benchmarks and real world performance.
As for quality the Pro would be slightly better, made to last longer and has a longer warranty than the EVO.
Can't be certain about temperature, but I doubt there is a real difference given it would be news if it was.

Both versions of SSDs are good but I prefer the PRO for the extra GB, but this does not really matter when the SSD is 1TB or more given the extra GB difference is often overlooked due to change in unit; and the other reason is anything more than 500GB is good where SSD capacity is concerned.
 
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I'm thinking of doing something slightly "stupid" and just buying a 2TB SSD now, entirely replacing all spinning drives.

I'm just in dilemma between Samsung 850 Evo and 850 Pro. I always had "I'm gonna buy the Pro" in my head, but it's over 200€ more expensive. That's a lot for slightly higher IOPS and more warranty.

Are there any reviews that point out any other benefits? Like better TRIM recovery on Pro or stuff like that? Then again, I want to aim for maximum reliability because I'll probably have this drive till the end. So it has to be reliable. Hm.
 
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I'm thinking of doing something slightly "stupid" and just buying a 2TB SSD now, entirely replacing all spinning drives.

Well I am just as stupid as you... I hate the noise from the old spinners... and the lag on some installs when the old sucker spins up out of the blue.
 
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Every advantage is pointed out in this thread.
 
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Every advantage is pointed out in this thread.

The thing is, differences were clear to me when in casual conversation about these drives. But when you're faced with a situation where you can spend 600€ or 800€ for a same capacity drive with those differences, you start to hesitate. Should I shell out 200€ more and be reassured long term or should I save the money and go with the lower end model. It sounds silly, but that's what I'm facing now. Though I have to admit I'm leaning more towards the 850 Pro. 10 years warranty does sound sweet and considering I'm super happy with 2TB capacity already (albeit a HDD), I won't be forced to upgrade soon because of capacity. Making it a very long term solution that will pay itself off in all this time. But still, 200€...

Though, if I sell my Samsung SM951 M.2 and my WD Caviar Black, I'll get back some funds back anyway...
 

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with it being such a large drive i would opt for the Pro, although $200 could get you a 500GB 850 EVO :p.
 
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I'll ask something most people don't at this point. How's with the reliability in non-typical situations? For example, power outages. Is Pro more resilient to that than Evo? Pro does have slightly lower power consumption and higher IOPS which should mean it will be able to write more data to NAND before it goes dark on power outage. Are there any documented torture tests where they intentionally thrash around SSD's to see what it takes to break them this way? Samsung's NAND and SSD controllers seem reliable enough they rarely die out of the blue. But how do they behave when they experience "shocks" like power outages? HDD's seem to be like tanks against such scenarios. But I've heard quite some horror stories about SSD's that totally died after a power outage or a system crash. Maybe not Samsung specifically, but SSD's in general...
 
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Power outages are more typical than not for me and never had a SSD issue due to one of those how ever i do the wise thing and use UPS for both of my systems.

As for shock, i take it you don't mean physical shocks.

I have had 1 SSD die on me and i been using them since Intel released their 80GB SATA Gen2 drives which were $230 each ( i have 2 ), And the SSD what died was put in to a laptop and died (OCZ) after a few weeks which looked like it was a heat issue as the metal was very dis colored were the controller was.

There was 0% warning the laptop just said their was no drive one day, even tried baking it haha.

And for system crashes never had a issue with any SSD after a system crash, but i have known it with HDD's so i bet it can happen with SSD's too.
 
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Currently debating whether to get an 850 512GB Pro or an 850 500GB Evo.

What are the differences between these two SSD's? Is the Pro faster than the Evo? Is the Pro better quality? Does the pro run hotter than the Evo?

I'm more curious about the temps, whether or not the Pro runs hotter than the Evo and by how much hotter if so.
Thank you in advance

Well I had that choice myself not too long ago, in the end I went with the Pro, because of reliability/10 year warranty.
 
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I think I'll be going with 850 Pro anyway. I've found something that suggests Pro has additional capacitors to ensure data writes to NAND more reliably on power failure. Higher IOPS, higher warranty and I'm looking at this long term, I think 200€ while not small amount can justify it. After all, even if I change entire system again 5 years in the future, it's very likely I'll just transplant this 2TB beast into it. SSD caching is really fast, but I'd really like to get rid of spinning drives entirely. After all, it's the current year 2016 already :D I have my HDD silenced inside a case on rubber vibration suspenders, but I can still hear the damn thing. And I sleep in the same room so absolute removal of clicking would be worth it by itself :D
 

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You could always turn down the AMC on the HDD.
 
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I had to buy ssd's some time ago...
went with this:
1. High performance system drive C: => Samsung 850Pro 256Gb + 1TB HDD
2. Cheap office laptop (only drive) => Adata SX300 128GB MSata (cheap and fast)
3. My 15" work laptop only drive => Sandisk Extreme Pro 240GB (10 years warranty and fast nice software)
4. parents pc (good old socket 775 C2Q6600) =>sandisk ultra plus 240GB (cheap and get the job done)

Want an ssd for system drive? Go Pro if you can afford, if not look on the sandisk side they are good too :p
Speed perspective: 850Pro>Sandisk Extreme>all the rest as i can't feel a difference
In my book ok is: Adata Sandisk Corsair and Samsung
Not ok and bad as fck: kingston...
Hope i helped a little!
 
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You could always turn down the AMC on the HDD.

Not on my drive. It's quite speedy drive, but if I change that, it resets back to default.

I had to buy ssd's some time ago...
went with this:
1. High performance system drive C: => Samsung 850Pro 256Gb + 1TB HDD
2. Cheap office laptop (only drive) => Adata SX300 128GB MSata (cheap and fast)
3. My 15" work laptop only drive => Sandisk Extreme Pro 240GB (10 years warranty and fast nice software)
4. parents pc (good old socket 775 C2Q6600) =>sandisk ultra plus 240GB (cheap and get the job done)

Want an ssd for system drive? Go Pro if you can afford, if not look on the sandisk side they are good too :p
Speed perspective: 850Pro>Sandisk Extreme>all the rest as i can't feel a difference
In my book ok is: Adata Sandisk Corsair and Samsung
Not ok and bad as fck: kingston...
Hope i helped a little!

I'm planning on ditching spinning drives entirely because that would make the most sense, despite the attached price.

Also, Sandisk Extreme are fast drives, but they don't come in 2TB flavor. I need that. I want that.
 

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Not on my drive. It's quite speedy drive, but if I change that, it resets back to default.



I'm planning on ditching spinning drives entirely because that would make the most sense, despite the attached price.

Also, Sandisk Extreme are fast drives, but they don't come in 2TB flavor. I need that. I want that.

Um resets it huh maybe the app your using sucks ?, AMC slows the read down in turn makes it quieter.
 
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