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SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus NVME M.2 SSD with PCIE card NOT WORKING - Won't INITIALIZE Windows 10 - - Orico expansion Card LENOVO M900

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I have a Lenovo ThinkCentere M900 - posted on the Lenovo forum - no reply
I am having really big issues trying to get my ThinkCentre m900 to initialize my Samsung V-Nand SSD 970 Evo NVMe M.2 drive 500gb - via an Orico 16 slot Expansion Card in the bottom PCIe slot.
I've spent around 35 hours this week trying to solve this - I can not find one single case online where someone else has the same problem
The M.2 drive Shows up in Device Manager and in Control Panel > storage Spaces as well as BIOS
But it won't show up in Disk Manager, EaseUS Partition Master or SAMSUNG Magician
I have windows 10 as my OS on a Sata SSD - I have to re-install windows fresh to be able to see the M.2 drive in Disk Manager
But when I click the DISK UNKNOWN box to initialize I get an X ERROR saying 'Incorrect Function'
Then after doing that - Disk Manager will not open - same with EaseUS Partition Master
And the computer goes into a loop where it won't shut down - I have to pull out the power plug
When putting the power back on - it returns to the same loop
I can stop this by removing the M.2 from the PCIe slot
But windows must be re-installed fresh again for me to have another shot at this
Ultimately I want to use the Evo M.2 for my OS
But I can't even initialize it at all.
I have even made a Rufus UEFI Boot flash USB
But that does not work - when I get up to the part on the install where it asks 'WHERE DO YOU WANT TO INSTALL WINDOWS?' (with all drives unplugged except for the Evo M.2) there is no drive showing and it asks for my disk drivers - so I can't install Windows10 onto the Evo M.2
Is there a GENIUS out there who can tell me is it is possible to use this drive?
I have many screenshots of all errors etc
 

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What motherboard do you have?
 

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Have you tested that expansion card in another slot or another system?
 
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Does your BIOS let you choose the SSD as a boot device if it doesn't then your PC doesn't support PCIe SSD Booting also perhaps your Orico x16 PCIe to NVMe ssd card requires a driver to be seen by windows install
 

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Have you tested that expansion card in another slot or another system?
Unfortunately I have no other PC with PCIe slots so no I haven't tested it in another system - I looked on Oricos website - no drivers
 
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Does your BIOS let you choose the SSD as a boot device if it doesn't then your PC doesn't support PCIe SSD Booting also perhaps your Orico x16 PCIe to NVMe ssd card requires a driver to be seen by windows install

Now that I think about it my mobo in 2016 had a bios update for nvme support.

Unfortunately I have no other PC with PCIe slots so no I haven't tested it in another system

Might need to find a shop to test this unfortunately.

Get hwinfo64 or cpuid and get exact motherboard info

Can you tell us what specific m900 you have?
 

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Does your BIOS let you choose the SSD as a boot device if it doesn't then your PC doesn't support PCIe SSD Booting also perhaps your Orico x16 PCIe to NVMe ssd card requires a driver to be seen by windows install
Yes - it seems to let me see the SSD in BIOS - as per pic - let me know if thats what you meant - or i've got it wrong! :)
 

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It appears that mobo doesn't support NVMe as a boot device. I had to install a modded BIOS in my Asus X79 Sabertooth to get it to boot from an add-in PCIe adapter.
 

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It appears that mobo doesn't support NVMe as a boot device. I had to install a modded BIOS in my Asus X79 Sabertooth to get it to boot from an add-in PCIe adapter.
Is there any way I can use it as a storage device (The NVMe SSD?) I can't even initialize it as a storage device yet
 

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Is there any way I can use it as a storage device (The NVMe SSD?) I can't even initialize it as a storage device yet
Look through your devices BIOS update list to see if they ever added NVME support just in case. Just because you can see it doesn't mean you can use it.

Also look in Partition Manager to see if it's hiding there.
(I didn't read all of the thread since work has me busy as a cracked out bee)
 

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Is there any way I can use it as a storage device (The NVMe SSD?) I can't even initialize it as a storage device yet

Are you using a tower, sff or tiny model?
 
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Windows 10 does have a native NVMe driver but you could try installing the Samsung NVMe driver then see if it'll format using Disk Management in Administrative Tools.
 

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Are you using a tower, sff or tiny model?
tower (thanks)

Windows 10 does have a native NVMe driver but you could try installing the Samsung NVMe driver then see if it'll format using Disk Management in Administrative Tools.
Samsung Driver dosen't help - but it does lock admin programs from operating when the PCIe adaptor is plugged in its socket

Look through your devices BIOS update list to see if they ever added NVME support just in case. Just because you can see it doesn't mean you can use it.

Also look in Partition Manager to see if it's hiding there.
(I didn't read all of the thread since work has me busy as a cracked out bee)
I appreciate your advice - I'll try those things :)
 
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It required a format to be usable.
(The computer I use is windows10)

The way is
Start menu right click → Computer Management → Disk Management → Select an unallocated disk and right click → Click New Simple Volume → Follow the onscreen instructions

It seems that the format is completed and you can use it safely
 

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Is the drive new? Does it show up in Diskpart? Can you try running a clean command on the drive if it shows up on Diskpart?
 

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It required a format to be usable.
(The computer I use is windows10)

The way is
Start menu right click → Computer Management → Disk Management → Select an unallocated disk and right click → Click New Simple Volume → Follow the onscreen instructions

It seems that the format is completed and you can use it safely

No - it dosen't show in Disk Manager - (pic below)
It will show in disk Manager if I do a clean windows install on my OS drive - but when I click to initialize I get errors (pic below) - hey thanks guys!
 

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try to initialize the drive using mbr format.
 
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It appears that mobo doesn't support NVMe as a boot device. I had to install a modded BIOS in my Asus X79 Sabertooth to get it to boot from an add-in PCIe adapter.
Wrong, according to their own info it has Nvme support.
The issue may be due to his trying to use the lower slot, and not the X16 top slot.
Also he needs to update or install chipset drivers, just look at all those errors in Device Manager.
 
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try to initialize the drive using mbr format.

This was one of the first issues I had when I changed over to a NVME back when I did spend a whole weekend getting that shit to work.

@Paspallum one thing when you are on Windows 10 download Lenovo Vantage from the Windows Store it's free and doesn't require you to be logged in it will help u sort out your missing drives in device manager and find the newest avaliable bios for your motherboard plus you can read the change log before you download it.

I work with Lenovo and their Vantage app saves me hours on computers when it's regular updates or if it's a brand spanking new installation.
 

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Also he needs to update or install chipset drivers, just look at all those errors in Device Manager.

I noticed that as well. I would also recommend taking care of this first.
 

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Is the drive new? Does it show up in Diskpart? Can you try running a clean command on the drive if it shows up on Diskpart?
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Hey thanks - the 500g SSD drive shows in Device Manager but not in Disk Part (thats my 300g Sata SSD)

Thanks Guys - I'll try all this tomorrow when I get a free chance and get back to you all - Can't thank you all enough for your time
Keep safe - P.
 

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Don't use storage spaces and don't add the ssd to a pool there!
That's a raid-like feature for having multiple drives forming an array, but somehow easier to maintain than conventional raid or windows dynamic disks.

It has no use for single drive, and only confuses you - because when a drive is added to a storage pool, it disappears from disk management and other partitioning utilities.

If all suggested ideas fail, try issuing NVMe format command - if samsung magican does not detect the ssd, you may have some luck with running linux and using nvme-cli package.
Did you check the drive in other pc?
 

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Don't use storage spaces and don't add the ssd to a pool there!
That's a raid-like feature for having multiple drives forming an array, but somehow easier to maintain than conventional raid or windows dynamic disks.

It has no use for single drive, and only confuses you - because when a drive is added to a storage pool, it disappears from disk management and other partitioning utilities.

If all suggested ideas fail, try issuing NVMe format command - if samsung magican does not detect the ssd, you may have some luck with running linux and using nvme-cli package.
Did you check the drive in other pc?
Don't use storage spaces and don't add the ssd to a pool there!
That's a raid-like feature for having multiple drives forming an array, but somehow easier to maintain than conventional raid or windows dynamic disks.

It has no use for single drive, and only confuses you - because when a drive is added to a storage pool, it disappears from disk management and other partitioning utilities.

If all suggested ideas fail, try issuing NVMe format command - if samsung magican does not detect the ssd, you may have some luck with running linux and using nvme-cli package.
Did you check the drive in other pc?
Hey thanks for - That Storage pool idea was suggested to me - I didn't even know it was a 'thing' but my isse was in full force before I started trying to use that function
And I could only see my disk in disk management after a fresh install of windows 10 on my OS drive - also can't install windows on my OS drive when the NVMe drive is in the PCIE slot
 

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Hi Paspallum,

I am having the exact same problem as you with Samsung evo plus 2TB NVMe M.2 SSD V-NAND on Orico PSM2 X 16 or PSM2 X 4 , I have followed everthing method possible as advised on the net but unable to make it work, even as a data disk. Have you managed to get it to work on the PCIe slot ?
 
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