- Jun 28, 2018
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You really should stop calling other fanboys, just because they don't agree with you 100% on something. I'm such a fanboy, I have a Ryzen and a Polaris card in my living room HTPC.Careful, your inner fanboy shows itself. Did you seriously expect that I would care more about defending some product that I own ? Sorry I don't work like that, no fanboy here, try again.
My 1700X as other first generation Zen products hit a frequency limit and a power wall at around 4 Ghz while other products from Intel manged to reach much higher clocks while maintaining much better power efficiency. That's a clear indication that the node was unfit for high performance processors. That's literally the whole point, Samsung isn't a provider of high performance nodes, first gen Zen is proof of that.
My 1700X also came out in 2017 and was up against a stagnant lineup of underwhelming products from Intel so it did well enough. Things have changed however, Intel has pushed their current node so far they are facing performance regressions with 10nm and AMD isn't stagnating, they deliver product after product, innovation after innovation.
The clock is ticking and Intel can't get away with a sub-par node like AMD did back then.
I just mentioned your 1700X, not for you to defend it, but to show you that because it is a low power process, it doesn't mean the product is bad or has poor performance.
By the way, if this is true, we don't even know what kind of CPU Samsung would produce, it could very well be laptop CPUs where efficiency prevailed over clocks. That's why I did not agree with your comment that only TSMC is worth it.