Sandy Bridge - Biggest Disappointment of the Year

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

As usual many people, seem to be convinced that these have already failed and AMD has already won, when there are no numbers.

Calm down, quit speculating when there's nothing to speculate about.

 

[CDdude55]

Why is it that people seem like they haven't read any of the reviews yet, they're all over the place.

They perform about as good as the standard i7's and almost as good as the 980x in some cases, and these are just the midrange chips mind you.

Here are some reviews to get you started:

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/i7_2600k_i5_2500k_2300_1155_sandy_bridge_review/1

http://hardocp.com/article/2011/01/03/intel_sandy_bridge_2600k_2500k_processors_review

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/03/intel-sandy-bridge-review/1

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/...e-i5-2600k-i5-2500k-and-core-i3-2100-tested/6

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

why is it that people seem like they haven't read any of the reviews yet, they're all over the place.

They perform about as good as the standard i7's and almost as good as the 980x in some cases, and these are just the midrange chips mind you.

^this

 

[bear jesus]

Why is it that people seem like they haven't read any of the reviews yet, they're all over the place.

They perform about as good as the standard i7's and almost as good as the 980x in some cases, and these are just the midrange chips mind you.

I think a lot of people must have been expecting too much, the fact that the 2600k gets close to a stock 980x is pretty impressive considering its a quad core vs a dual threaded 6 core so 12 core effective but i would guess the fact the 980x overclocked pulls away from the 2600k when overclocked makes it seam a little less impressive to them.

Really a mid range part that cost less than half the price of the previous generation and gets close in speed is impressive yet most people here should be looking at the future high end CPU's Intel will be releasing later this year and i think that is where more will become impressed..... or in the case of die hard fan boys very quiet

 

[qubit]

@bear jesus

I think it's just the totally locked down overclocking other than the premium priced K-series that's putting enthusiasts off. It puts me off, too and feels like a snub by Intel.

I mean, ya know, gone is the excitement and adventure of getting a £50 CPU perform like a £500 one as can be done now. Gone are the articles on tech sites like this where one can read all about it.

I guess there aren't enough of us for Intel to bother about any more, totally swamped by the "average" user that doesn't know squat.

Also, see my post earlier in this thread about the diminishing performance returns we're seeing on recent product generations. I think this what's behind this situation and is Intel's way of maintaining it's profit margin.

 

[bear jesus]

@bear jesus

I think it's just the totally locked down overclocking other than the premium priced K-series that's putting enthusiasts off. It puts me off, too and feels like a snub by Intel.

I mean, ya know, gone is the excitement and adventure of getting a £50 CPU perform like a £500 one as can be done now. Gone are the articles on tech sites like this where one can read all about it.

I guess there aren't enough of us for Intel to bother about any more, totally swamped by the "average" user that doesn't know squat.

Also, see my post earlier in this thread about the diminishing performance returns we're seeing on recent product generations. I think this what's behind this situation and is Intel's way of maintaining it's profit margin.

I agree I'm far from impressed with what Intel has done to the locked editions and the overclocking options of the chips and although I'm not too bothered about the price of the 2600k as it's relatively ok considering how close it can get to the i7 980x but really the 2600K is not the product i want as I'm interested in something in the higher end spectrum that i can put under water.
It does make me wonder how expensive the K versions of the top end cpu's will be as i would assume they are placed between the locked CPU's and the extreme editions that surly will be $1000+ again.

I'm kind of on the fence as far as how big a jump this generation is as most reviews are comparing the new 4 core 4 thread cpu's against 2 core 4 thread, 4 core 8 thread and 6 core 12 thread CPU's so i find it harder to judge but the fact that this generations mid range is so close to last generations top end with less cores and threads gives me hope that the high end of this generation will be impressive.

If it's not a big jump then it's just inviting AMD to catch up and start eating into Intel's sales and although that would be great for us I'm quite sure Intel does not want that.

 

[Hayder_Master]

wow January 3rd and he has had his worst of the year....lol

thanx sneeky, if u check my profile u find January 3rd is my birthday

 

[claylomax]

thanx sneeky, if u check my profile u find January 3rd is my birthday

This is released for your birthday: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=663&Itemid=63

 

[dr emulator (madmax)]

•msrp: $195 usd low price in comparison to intels

 

[brandonwh64]

All this chip is, is a higher clocked 965BE. Not really worth the money since you can get a used I7 920 for less or a I7 950 for 199 at microcenter

Myself from another thread

 

[meirb111]

the biggest problem is that stores have to put more shelfs
for all the motherboars and cpu at the same time 775,1156,1155,1366
what a mess this is the first time that you will find 4 types at the same time storage is pain in the ass .

manufacturing processes is smaller storage is bigger

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Myself from another thread

If you neglect that performance wise it blows all 3 of those chips out of the water, then yes it's just as you said.:shadedshu

the biggest problem is that stores have to put more shelfs
for all the motherboars and cpu at the same time 775,1156,1155,1366
what a mess this is the first time that you will find 4 types at the same time storage is pain in the ass .

manufacturing processes is smaller storage is bigger

Socket 775 is pretty much dead, I haven't seen a retailer with a 775 board on their shelf's for over a year. Also this is the worst and attempt at an argument against Sandy Bridge I have ever seen. You do know at one point and sort of still do AMD had AM2, AM2+, and AM3, motherboards and processors, and will soon have AM3, yeah soo much more simplified.ohwell:

 

[wolf]

I think the sandy bride CPU's are quite excellent really, the 2600K seems to par or beat the i7 975, while consuming ~40-45% less power doing so. overclocking, while needing a K model, seems to be a breeze with many reviewers hitting 4.2-4.4ghz on either the stock cooler, or non-elaborate air cooling. if you put a kickass air cooler or w/c on a 2600K, 4.6-5ghz would not be too much to ask IMO.

 

[PopcornMachine]

I think the sandy bride CPU's are quite excellent really...

Yeah, well mine left me at the altar!

 

[meirb111]

If you neglect that performance wise it blows all 3 of those chips out of the water, then yes it's just as you said.:shadedshu




Socket 775 is pretty much dead, I haven't seen a retailer with a 775 board on their shelf's for over a year. Also this is the worst and attempt at an argument against Sandy Bridge I have ever seen. You do know at one point and sort of still do AMD had AM2, AM2+, and AM3, motherboards and processors, and will soon have AM3, yeah soo much more simplified.ohwell:

in many countries 775 is still sold, motherboards are needed for maintenance and and replacement.

i never had amd cpu its just irritating to pay for new motherboard every upgrade. intel is making a lot of money
from motherboards to much.

 

[cdawall]

Socket 775 is pretty much dead, I haven't seen a retailer with a 775 board on their shelf's for over a year. Also this is the worst and attempt at an argument against Sandy Bridge I have ever seen. You do know at one point and sort of still do AMD had AM2, AM2+, and AM3, motherboards and processors, and will soon have AM3, yeah soo much more simplified.ohwell:

ever been to frys? they have a ton of G41 boards and some 790i stuff still. i agree that AMD is just as confusing however a good chunk offer backwards compatibility.

in many countries 775 is still sold, motherboards are needed for maintenance and and replacement.

i never had amd cpu its just irritating to pay for new motherboard every upgrade. intel is making a lot of money
from motherboards to much.

one of those countries is the US lol and i agree every generation intel is making new sockets.

 

[PopcornMachine]

I dont give a rats ass about how they overclock or overclocking performance, its all about stock clock performance for me. So if there not much better then the current I7's at stock clocks then meh, its good realy Because AMD then might be able to catch up and give us all cheaper i7's to buy? No? or CPU's in general.

Strange way of looking at things. I think just about every other enthusiast is willing to overclock in order to get the most for their money.

Kind of crazy not to really.

These chips are reasonably priced and overclock like mad.

Maybe not with as much difficulty as some would like, but they do clock well.

And compared with other chips overclocked, these benefit from it much more. That makes them the best buy in my opinion.

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

in many countries 775 is still sold, motherboards are needed for maintenance and and replacement.

i never had amd cpu its just irritating to pay for new motherboard every upgrade. intel is making a lot of money
from motherboards to much.

Wait . . . so your beef is you think Intel is making too much money from motherboards . .. . nutkick:

ever been to frys? they have a ton of G41 boards and some 790i stuff still. i agree that AMD is just as confusing however a good chunk offer backwards compatibility.

I have 2 Fry's near my house, and neither carry 775, but both still carry AM2+ and AM2.

And unlike AMD where they recycle old slow technology, Intel makes new sockets to move technology forward.

 

[meirb111]

Wait . . . so your beef is you think Intel is making too much money from motherboards . .. . nutkick:



I have 2 Fry's near my house, and neither carry 775pr, but both still carry AM2+ and AM2.

And unlike AMD where they recycle old slow technology, Intel makes new sockets to move technology forward.

yes they could have find a way to use 1156 with sandy bridge but they will make less money from motherboard if they did that.
the marketing strategy is why sell one product if you can sell two its good for them not for the paying customer

 

[cdawall]

Wait . . . so your beef is you think Intel is making too much money from motherboards . .. . nutkick:



I have 2 Fry's near my house, and neither carry 775, but both still carry AM2+ and AM2.

And unlike AMD where they recycle old slow technology, Intel makes new sockets to move technology forward.

Both the frys in houston do

 

[francis511]

yes they could have find a way to use 1156 with sandy bridge but they will make less money from motherboard if they did that.
the marketing strategy is why sell one product if you can sell two its good for them not for the paying customer

I think there`s a question that p55 wouldn`t support the new architecture !

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

yes they could have find a way to use 1156 with sandy bridge but they will make less money from motherboard if they did that.
the marketing strategy is why sell one product if you can sell two its good for them not for the paying customer

So don't buy their product's their clearly not for you.

 

[meirb111]

So don't buy their product's their clearly not for you.

you could work as a salesman

 

[Frick]

you could work as a salesman

He's right you know. By refusing to buy the product you make a pretty good stand. They might not notice, but you're not contributing to their cause.

 

[meirb111]

He's right you know. By refusing to buy the product you make a pretty good stand. They might not notice, but you're not contributing to their cause.

yea and maybe via will become number 1 in cpu sells