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Saphhire hd7850 bottleneck

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Hi everyone!

I'd like to upgrade my GPU from hd4870 512mb to hd7850 2gb but i'm concerned about possible bottleneck from my other components.

Here are my specs: Asus p5e3 deluxe
Q9300 @ 2.5Ghz
3 Gb memory (corsair dominator 1600Mhz)
LcPower 550w silent giant series
Ati Saphhire hd4870 512mb

I play only on 1680x1050 AA isn't important to my so...
I won't be playing games such as Crysis 2 or BF3, i usualy play shogun 2, f1 2012, AC3.

So will the CPU or any other component bottleneck hd7850 and for how much?

Thanks in advance:)
 

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For BF3 you are going to bottle neck on the RAM part of your build. 3GB is not good to play on with BF3. When I built my 2600K I had to use 3GB of random sticks while I waited on my 8GB kit and it was pretty much unplayable.
 
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Not a bottleneck, just scaling. You will do fine, but if you can get your processor up to 3.0+, you would be doing great.

I play BF3 on my 945 with a 7950, max settings. The 945 isn't as powerful clock-for-clock.

At that resolution I see you having no problem maxing out everything out there, however getting 60FPS will not always happen.

There is a 6950 for $165 in the FS section if you are interested, if not then you are looking at $220 for a 2GB, $180 for a 1GB (not recommended, especially for rockstar games)
 

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Thanks so far guys:)

Yeah i build this CPU back in 2008 for very decent price. Back than 3gb of dd3 was more than enough so i might have to do some upgrade in near future on memory as well.

As for CPU ac already "OC" it on 2.9 but it was unstable probably due to lack of power or something so i underclock it back to 2.5. When over 2.7GHz becomes very unstable so... will do some research on OC:)
 
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Everything looks fine, just the memory. Get at least an 8GB kit and you're set to go
 
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Just noticed, 3GB. How did you get half a kit? Unless you are still on a 32-bit OS.
 
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Well it's not gonna cause some major troubles, but for stability you could opt for bigger memory
 
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He'll need a 64 bit OS also.
 
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Negative on that too.:slap:
How so, what is the point of getting 8GB of ram, and having a 32 bit OS that can only use 3.5GB of it? :shadedshu
 
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How so, what is the point of getting 8GB of ram, and having a 32 bit OS that can only use 3.5GB of it? :shadedshu


Never said that. These guys need to clarify better.
 

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Everyone was talking about memory, and Boise came in saying he will need a 64 bit OS also after a memory upgrade was discussed. Which he will if he does get more memory.
 
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Everyone was talking about memory, and Boise came in saying he will need a 64 bit OS also after a memory upgrade was discussed. Which he will if he does get more memory.


He does not need 8G to run BF3
 

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He does not need 8G to run BF3
He sure as hell needs more then 3. And if he gets more then 3GB of ram, he will also need a 64 bit OS to make all that memory usable. And 8GB of ram is preferable for BF3. I have 8GB of ram and when I play BF3 my memory usage for overall system goes up to 5-6GB.
 

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He sure as hell needs more then 3. And if he gets more then 3GB of ram, he will also need a 64 bit OS to make all that memory usable. And 8GB of ram is preferable for BF3. I have 8GB of ram and when I play BF3 my memory usage for overall system goes up to 5-6GB.
With 4gb's of RAM on my system It had memory usage up to 85%-90%!!! Just about killed my system!
 

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Instead of insulting other people, perhaps you could post some facts on the topic at hand as a rebuttal. Any more of this type of unnecessary behavior will result in losing posting privileges.

:slap:
 

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Instead of insulting other people, perhaps you could post some facts on the topic at hand as a rebuttal. Any more of this type of unnecessary behavior will result in losing posting privileges.

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I have. He rebutted with what are you smoking and no you do not need what I said. And after all erocker I think it was you yourself that told me that I needed 8gb's of ram because I was having the same issue.
 

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The facts are in the hundreds upon hundreds of internet threads on the subject of BF3 and RAM. For reference: Google search: "BF3 + RAM"
 
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The facts are in the hundreds upon hundreds of internet threads on the subject of BF3 and RAM: Google search: "BF3 + RAM"
Yes but the OP came here for our help not Google's. So I have given my help. What has happened to TPU? I mean this is just getting worse and worse! All we tend to do now is tell people to Google it. If this is the case then TPU should just close!
This place was great once we all help each other we had fun and now it is just getting pathetic. No wonder so many have left and not come back. Before you ban me erocker know this you used to be the one I looked forward to hearing from. I really respected your help and what you had to say. You were very informative and hell I even took every thing you ever told me and put it into use. What has happened to you? GOOGLE? I am going to take your post privileges away? All these threats and all the hate. DUDE I do not see any fun any more. DO you need a break?
Sorry for my rant but I really needed to get that out and not in a PM others needed to hear this! :respect: I want my friend erocker back. :cry:
 

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wow, this escalated quickly. OP just upgrade to a 64 bit OS, get more memory, and get the GPU you want. After that you should be good to go.