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Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+

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Sapphire's Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+ is the company's flagship Navi card. It comes with a large triple-slot, triple-fan cooler that runs quiet and cool. Adjustable RGB lighting and fan-stop is included, too. A unique addition is the ability to control the dual BIOS switch through software.

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it would help to have every AIB 5700 xt in the performance graphs like you d for noise/temp
 

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Wth happened to power draw. In idle, this cards wins, while in gaming it draws 50W more than the reference design (~25%) for like 3% extra performance? I'm sorry, but no. Just no.
 
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Because Europe uses a value added tax aka VAT for all of your socialist programs.
Maybe Europe has VAT Added where US hide the VAT(+other hidden fee).
 
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It suffers from the same situation as all other squeezed RX 5700XT, 50W more power consumption for 3% performance differences from the reference model.

It seems that in Navi is buying the cheapest with a minimally decent cooler and is done. There is almost nothing more to extract.
 

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Maybe Europe has VAT Added where US hide the VAT(+other hidden fee).
No, the US has sales tax, but's anywhere from 2 to 4 times lowers than VAT in European countries. Many smaller/poorer EU countries also don't get the volume discounts.

It suffers from the same situation as all other squeezed RX 5700XT, 50W more power consumption for 3% performance differences from the reference model.

It seems that in Navi is buying the cheapest with a minimally decent cooler and is done. There is almost nothing more to extract.
Based on the perf/W between 5700 and 5700XT, I have said Navi doesn't scale much past that, the moment people started speculating about "big Navi".
 
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No, the US has sales tax, but's anywhere from 2 to 4 times lowers than VAT in European countries. Many smaller/poorer EU countries also don't get the volume discounts.


Based on the perf/W between 5700 and 5700XT, I have said Navi doesn't scale much past that, the moment people started speculating about "big Navi".
How do you know that "big Navi", if it would really come, won't have improved efficiency or better IPC?
 
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No, the US has sales tax, but's anywhere from 2 to 4 times lowers than VAT in European countries. Many smaller/poorer EU countries also don't get the volume discounts.


Based on the perf/W between 5700 and 5700XT, I have said Navi doesn't scale much past that, the moment people started speculating about "big Navi".
Ignorance or what? Clock scaling differs from arch scaling as far is the earth from the sun.
 
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Just the same as other cards, sod all head room left and quite juicy to boot.

I wonder if big Navi is going to go back to HBM to combat the power consumption getting too silly.
 

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How do you know that "big Navi", if it would really come, won't have improved efficiency or better IPC?
Well, the Navi we have today doesn't seem to be able to do that and AMD is already bragging about RDNA2. You do the math ;)
 
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One should proberly ajust the cooler rpm manually on this card allowing it to hit 1400 rpm sooner, seems to give more base performance
 
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Well, the Navi we have today doesn't seem to be able to do that and AMD is already bragging about RDNA2. You do the math ;)
Ryzen had bad scaling and overclocking potential as well but it had 15-18% IPC improvement. This is even better than 18% overclocking with same performance/power rate.
 

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Expanded the software BIOS switch section in conclusion as there has been some confusion about it on Reddit
 
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So incredibly meh. All that extra power for hardly any performance difference, and that big cooler STILL cant unsteat sapphire's own cheap 5700xt custom cooler.

Why would you pay another $100 $30 for a much longer card with triple fans if it is no faster then the $409 card with twin fans? It's maybe 1-2C cooler, big whoop.

EDIT: reading.
 
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So it consumes more power than rtx 2080 super and a performance not even close to it with new 7nm tech. And old ancient tech consumes less power with almost 40% better performance.either this 7nm process is a fiasco or AMD is behind more then we think.
 
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A bit of both, but mostly the latter - AMD is simply miles behind Nvidia at this point and I can only imagine the carnage Ampere will do next year... :rolleyes:
 
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", but I don't doubt for a second that NVIDIA is pushing the technology very hard with their excellent developer relations, and it looks like the adoption rate is improving. " Really???? why there are few games that use ray tracing?
 
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Based on the perf/W between 5700 and 5700XT, I have said Navi doesn't scale much past that, the moment people started speculating about "big Navi".
They are clearly pushing the clock speeds way beyond efficiency on the XT model, it does not mean a bigger Navi in the same clock speed domain has to be inefficient.
 
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