Sapphire x1950pro ALL U NEED TO KNOW!

[Zubasa]

Depending on how the core is pasted, and what thermal paste you use can really effect the overall results of each cooler.

The real breakdown is this:

the X2 has 3 heatpipes, which cools memory and GPU however the whole device is very big, bulky and is not 100% copper.

the zalman only has one heatpipe but the entire cooler is 100% copper, thus maximum heat transfer and disperation.

The Zalman has 2 Heat Pipes:shadedshu

 

[Zalmann]

The Zalman has 2 Heat Pipes:shadedshu

You are 100% correct my man!

 

[slugzkea]

So what did the new batch of the x1950pro AGP come with? any pics of the new heat sink and fan?

From my past purchases, none of their cards came with good coolers...

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[Eric_Cartman]

So what did the new batch of the x1950pro AGP come with? any pics of the new heat sink and fan?

From my past purchases, none of their cards came with good coolers...

below are pics of the old reference design, and the new

 

[Formula350]

AGP or PCIe, it still uses the same chip, and the same core voltage, with the same clocks and the same heatsink! At 100% fan duty mine ran 60c. I was surprised to see they(Sapphire, who makes my card as well) dont remove the plastic over the ram-pads. I was able to get HIS to send me their 1950 Pro's cooler (not telling you how, sorry lol Devise your own plan heh) and now I run 48-50c max load. But yes the stock heatsink is junk, get something else.

There IS a voltage table, just look in Ketxxx's 1950 thread. While I'm not using any of His BIOS' atm since I'm CPU limited I think, my core's max stable is 648 and memory is 864 (yes, 864). Just using the HIS Heatsink and memory-sink. All copper, very nice. HIS (Had a x1600XT form them)

 

[slugzkea]

erm

AGP or PCIe, it still uses the same chip, and the same core voltage, with the same clocks and the same heatsink! At 100% fan duty mine ran 60c. I was surprised to see they(Sapphire, who makes my card as well) dont remove the plastic over the ram-pads. I was able to get HIS to send me their 1950 Pro's cooler (not telling you how, sorry lol Devise your own plan heh) and now I run 48-50c max load. But yes the stock heatsink is junk, get something else.

There IS a voltage table, just look in Ketxxx's 1950 thread. While I'm not using any of His BIOS' atm since I'm CPU limited I think, my core's max stable is 648 and memory is 864 (yes, 864). Just using the HIS Heatsink and memory-sink. All copper, very nice. HIS (Had a x1600XT form them)

There is no voltage table for the AGP Version from my knowledge. I have tried many bios's, i have edited my bios a bunch of times and up to 1.55v and I've had no increase in core clocks, mem clocks, or temperatures.

 

[slugzkea]

below are pics of the old reference design, and the new

The new heatsink and fan is from Visiontek. Not sapphire, you said Sapphire released a new batch..?

 

[Formula350]

The PCIe version can't be modded for AGP? Cuz I know Ket has bumped the core voltage up to 1.45 on ours.

And adding voltage does not guarantee more overclock potential. Most of the time it increases stability.

 

[slugzkea]

The PCIe version can't be modded for AGP? Cuz I know Ket has bumped the core voltage up to 1.45 on ours.

And adding voltage does not guarantee more overclock potential. Most of the time it increases stability.

Yes, however my case is an Antec Nine Hundred w/4 120mmfans giving 79CFM each, and one big 200mm fan at the top, doing 130CFM as well.

Not to mention, I have the Accelero X2 w/AS5 (i did not use the pre-applied wannabe paste that came with it).

Heat is what would usually cause the instability, and that is not the issue i don't believe.

My GPU idle is at 34 and at load it does not exceed 50 C.
Mem is even lower, around 32 and does not exceed 36 C.

When i increased the BIOS voltage to 1.55v (and my motherboard to 1.57v) the temps did not change at all, where with my x800GTO, if I set the Voltage higher on that, well..you could obviously see temperature increase.

The absence of temperature increase prooves there is no voltage table.

 

[mmx]

I cannot agree with you on the cooler part.
My core does not get pass 70C and the memory is indeed cooled.
By saying nothing is cooled, do you know what temperature the card gets to without the cooler?

I totaly agree with you, i can say that the cooler isnt the best money can buy but it does a decent job at cooling the card.
And the boot up cooler spining at 100% is NOT becouse core is heating up is becouse VGA card self test at pover up.

 

[Formula350]

Well you have all those fans, and I don't, and my Sapphire runs 37c idle and 48-50c load, and I used the crappy thermal paste that came on my HIS IceQ Turbo heatsink I acquired lol Makes me really want to go put on my AS3 and lap the heatsink heh

 

[munz778]

slugskea/formula350: does "under load" mean under gaming or atitool artifact scanning?

when i run ATItool & "scan for artifacts", my temps are just under 60C (room temp ~23C) for my powercolor x1950 pro AGP 512MB w/accelero X2 (573.75/1377)

my case is well ventilated so i'm not sure how you guys managed to get such low temps.

 

[Formula350]

Gaming or ATiTool/ATi Tray Tools little render window, it doesn't matter. Both heat mine up the same. These are @ 635/1600 too. Yours cools the memory as well, which will heat up the GPU cooler a bit more. Mine uses a separate finned copper plate.

 

[munz778]

thanks for the info, i've been having problems with mine, which prompted me to reinstall vista with cat 7.2 and i still get artifacts within 10 mins in atitool at stock speeds, temps don't exceed 60C. i can still overclock but what's the point when i can't get it to run without errors at stock? agp voltage is set at 1.5v in bios, and i'm using the PCI-E power cable from my powerstream to power the card (a mod on the OCZ forum recommended i use the PCI-E power cable from the PSU instead of using the dual molex-->pci-e converter)

IMHO, 60C is totally acceptable if others with stock cooling are getting 70C+ and also overclocking...any suggestions?

 

[Eric_Cartman]

The new heatsink and fan is from Visiontek. Not sapphire, you said Sapphire released a new batch..?

the same cooler is used on the straight ati branded cards now also, see below

i assume ati would be using their own reference cooler design

the visiontech one was just the first one i saw, so that is what i posted

i never said anything about sapphire, even though sapphire makes the ati branded cards as far as i know

you just asked what the new reference design looked like, sapphire might still be using the old one on their cards to save money since i am sure the old aluminum one is cheaper than this new copper one

 

[eitama]

PCIE Temps.

Mine is a PCI-E with the exact same cooler.
So thats why I only question you on the Cooler.
Not sure about the PCI-E to AGP chip affects OC at all.

Just to backup slugzkea, the stock cooler doesn't cool anything.
i have pci-e version, with a really good thermaltake case, cpu is at 32Degree
I got to 103 Degree Celcious!!!! on crysis beta demo. atitool set fan to 100%
and no overclocking, in mid configuration.
Most games get my card to 85 Degree.

I am about to install the accelero before my card fries itself.
RMA in israel, arn't a simple proccess.

 

[mmx]

Just to backup slugzkea, the stock cooler doesn't cool anything.
i have pci-e version, with a really good thermaltake case, cpu is at 32Degree
I got to 103 Degree Celcious!!!! on crysis beta demo. atitool set fan to 100%
and no overclocking, in mid configuration.
Most games get my card to 85 Degree.

I am about to install the accelero before my card fries itself.
RMA in israel, arn't a simple proccess.

if your card runs 100C up . remove heatsink and replace thermalpase. My card was running at 82C max when i bought it, but after a few months it runs near 95C, then i replced thermalpaste and it runs again at 82C max. That thermalpase ist quite bad quality.

 

[Howcomes]

I've owned a Sapphire X1950 Pro AGP for awhile now, It still runs way too hot. I've modified the card slightly, took off the big blue plastic shield on the heatsink, re-applied the thermal paste and stuck a PCI Expansion cooler directly parallel to the card.

...And i still get mid 70's under load...if not worse. Thou my room tempature may be an issue as well

 

[thegave]

Can any Sapphire X1950Pro AGP owners please tell me how many capacitators there should be on the front and back of the card? I found a cap that looks the ones on the card but I can't work out where it might have been and I don'tk now if I'm damaging my card by continuing to use it.