Say hello to Phenom II

[OzzmanFloyd120]

Waiting for more screenies. :can't wait:

 

[PaulieG]

What does the ht multiplier range from?

My HT Link Speed range is 200mhz to 1.6ghz. Does that answer your question?

 

[OzzmanFloyd120]

Hmm, it should go higher than that.

 

[HTC]

Hmm, it should go higher than that.

Isn't it directly linked to the BUS speed? If so, raising the BUS will raise the HT link min/max as well, right?

 

[kid41212003]

Hello Deneb!

It has its own multiplier, if maximum is 1.6, which mean the max multiplier is x8, (200x8 = 1.6).

 

[OzzmanFloyd120]

Isn't it directly linked to the BUS speed? If so, raising the BUS will raise the HT link min/max as well, right?

Correct, but the new phenoms are supposed to sport a 3200HT Link, his top option at 1.6(8*200) is only half of what it should be, in fact it's even lower than the current B3 Phenoms (2000HT)

 

[Charper2013]

Welcome Denab!!
What a big Overclock you have!
AMD: The better to run intensive applications with my dear..

 

[kid41212003]

Maybe, because the bios don't recognize the new CPU HT multiplier.

 

[HTC]

Correct, but the new phenoms are supposed to sport a 3200HT Link, his top option at 1.6(8*200) is only half of what it should be, in fact it's even lower than the current B3 Phenoms (2000HT)

I guessed as much which is why if the BUS could be raised to ... say ... 215, the variance of the HT link would be from 215 to 1720.

It's not a final HT link value but rather an HT link available multi which, in this case, varies from 1 to 8, i'm guessing.

EDIT

Maybe, because the bios don't recognize the new CPU HT multiplier.

That's a good possibility, no?

Imagine: if new BIOS for the various motherboards were to suddenly support the 3200 HT and, by doing so, increase the proc's overall speed ... drool ...

 

[exodusprime1337]

no i believe he's not able to screw with the ht/nb stuff as much because he only has an am2 boards by the looks of it. the ht link is off by a wide margin probably because the board doesn't support it. and if he's getting 3.8 out of that thing on one of those boards, a new board with acc and the newer amd/nvidia chipsets could net more of an overclock. this is good news, i'm waiting for them to release so i can get one and a new mobo.

 

[kid41212003]

That would be great, but I don't think you will able to OC pass 4GHz with 3200HT...

You don't need that much bandwidth anyway, 1000 vs 3200 = no different in most application.

 

[OzzmanFloyd120]

no i believe he's not able to screw with the ht/nb stuff as much because he only has an am2 boards by the looks of it. the ht link is off by a wide margin probably because the board doesn't support it. and if he's getting 3.8 out of that thing on one of those boards, a new board with acc and the newer amd/nvidia chipsets could net more of an overclock. this is good news, i'm waiting for them to release so i can get one and a new mobo.

You would figure though that he would at least get 2000HT since the board supports it.

 

[eidairaman1]

probably needs to figure out how to set it unless if his bios doesnt support it yet

 

[PaulieG]

Just checked again. The HT link speed goes to 1.8ghz. Not sure why it's not higher. Hmm. So, should my HT link speed be about equal? What's a reasonable max for chipset and HT voltage?

 

[OzzmanFloyd120]

~1.35 on my chipset, I can't say for sure on yours though.

 

[PaulieG]

no i believe he's not able to screw with the ht/nb stuff as much because he only has an am2 boards by the looks of it. the ht link is off by a wide margin probably because the board doesn't support it. and if he's getting 3.8 out of that thing on one of those boards, a new board with acc and the newer amd/nvidia chipsets could net more of an overclock. this is good news, i'm waiting for them to release so i can get one and a new mobo.

Thing is, this board has the 790GX chipset, and I just updated the bios last week.

 

[Soparik2]

if its an ati/amd chipset unless your overclocking via HT Link you do not need to increase Chipset Core voltage or HT Link Voltages

nice OC Paulie
so you finally got it eh!

 

[aGeoM]

My HT Link Speed range is 200mhz to 1.6ghz. Does that answer your question?

If you have your NB multi @ x8, then the HT Link only goes to 1.6, to avoid breaking the rule HT Link <= NB Speed.

Edit:If you raise the NB multi to 9 or 10, you should be able to set the HT Link Speed to 1.800 or 2000.

Edit 2: Check this out Polygon's have been working on this bord bioses. http://www.lejabeach.com/Biostar/TA790GX3A2+/

 

[Soparik2]

you can set you NB multi to x10 and your HT Link multi to x10
2000 is the limit though
790gx has a theoretical limit of 2400MHz HT Link
the 3200HT ppl are talking about is the DDR'd HT Link which is only 1.6GHz

 

[PaulieG]

I'm going to go play with the bios for awhile. I can boot into windows at 3.9ghz, but it's not prime or OCCT stable. I need to get a bit more familiar with AMD bios settings again before I really try pushing it. Any tips to gain stability will be greatly appreciated. I'll post more screenies and benchmarks throughout the weekend.

 

[eidairaman1]

good luck with it.

 

[aGeoM]

I'm going to go play with the bios for awhile. I can boot into windows at 3.9ghz, but it's not prime or OCCT stable. I need to get a bit more familiar with AMD bios settings again before I really try pushing it. Any tips to gain stability will be greatly appreciated. I'll post more screenies and benchmarks throughout the weekend.

Advanced Clock Calibration is Enabled? If not enable it to Auto, and test stability.

 

[wolf2009]

check this article for some info on AMD overclocking

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=1&artpage=3852&articID=895

 

[OzzmanFloyd120]

Windows at 3.9 isn't too shabby when you haven't used AMD in a couple years.

Paulie, just out of curiosity, have you been raising your multi as you go or are you just pushing your bus speed?

 

[Athlon2K15]

i think this chip would run nice on a SB750...