Seagate Launching Mass Market 20 TB PMR HDDs in The Coming Months

[newtekie1]

There's been a serious poor development in this area since those drives became the norm, continually breaking new barriers in read and write speeds but zero thoughts given to consumers who just want a large capacity drive.

There has been advancement in the size while sacrificing speed, it's called QLC. The problem is the write speeds for QLC have now reached HDD levels and everybody wants to whine and cry about it.

 

[AsRock]

HDDs fail, from all brands. Don't base your experience on one drive.

I had a Toshiba do the same to me (no SMART warnings just died) but I still buy Toshiba if there is a relevant need.

True but it seems like i have the worst luck with them too, i have had much better luck with WD but others not so much.

 

[R-T-B]

Based on those numbers, the most reliable drives made are from HGST and Toshiba. Seagate doesn't fair so well. Especially when you take a closer look at the numbers.

Backblaze also doesn't fair so well if you take a close look at their numbers (or a different year with different conclusions, for that matter). There is a lot wrong with using them for any kind of generalized conclusion.

I exclude them from my stats with good rationale.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Backblaze also doesn't fair so well if you take a close look at their numbers (or a different year with different conclusions, for that matter). There is a lot wrong with using them for any kind of generalized conclusion.

I exclude them from my stats with good rationale.

We're off-topic. Let's move it over here:

Discussion about BackBlaze as a source for drive reliability data

I discussion was going on that was off-topic for the thread it was in and needed a new home. And away we go... Backblaze also doesn't fair so well if you take a close look at their numbers (or a different year with different conclusions, for that matter). There is a lot wrong with using them...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Roph]

I miss samsung

 

[Jism]

HDDs fail, from all brands. Don't base your experience on one drive.

Sigh.. I used to run a HDD recovery service. I think i managed 4 drives a week. Guess what most brought in brand was?

Seagate consumer disks are garbage. I dont know how they accomplish it but it's the #1 brand that either fails by mechanical, firmware or complete PCB faillure.

I still have samsung disks here. Over 14 years old, still run perfectly fine (320GB each, 6 x). Now thats build quality.

Putting data on a drive shoud'nt be a gamble.

 

[R-T-B]

Guess what most brought in brand was?

Guess what the biggest OEM supplier is as well?

Sigh.. I used to run a HDD recovery service. I think i managed 4 drives a week. Guess what most brought in brand was?

Seagate consumer disks are garbage. I dont know how they accomplish it but it's the #1 brand that either fails by mechanical, firmware or complete PCB faillure.

I still have samsung disks here. Over 14 years old, still run perfectly fine (320GB each, 6 x). Now thats build quality.

Putting data on a drive shoud'nt be a gamble.

I'm sorry, but the fact that you think a sample of 6 samsungs is enough to make a generalized claim makes me know you have no business calling anyone the "#1" in anything.

I miss samsung

Counterpoint. My oldest running disk is a 2.5" 7200RPM seagate, and actually beats your Samsung by some bit in power on hours. Still flawless. I retired it because age was making it scary to use (over 10 years now), and 320gbs isn't very useful anymore, but it still works. It's partially because it's a simple, single platter design I'm sure... and frankly I'd put more weight on platter count than brand.

 

[Jism]

Talk with any regular or large HDD recovery service and they will agree that seagate is among the top dying disks. The quality of consumer disks for some reason is far worse then the rest. Seagate does offer you a data recovery program but it shoud'nt be like that in the first place. Make reliable hardware for a change. Disks that can run 5 years without issues for a start, unless you start throwing it, making it run hot for quite amount of time, or your using it way beyond it was designed or specified for etc.

Most consumer harddrive's are build with a usage of only 8 hours a day. I mean if youve ever gone through the hoops of losing your data, having to ship it, being assured that your data is threated confident etc, i'd think twice when buying a harddrive the next time.

 

[Mr Bill]

Talk with any regular or large HDD recovery service and they will agree that seagate is among the top dying disks. The quality of consumer disks for some reason is far worse then the rest. Seagate does offer you a data recovery program but it shoud'nt be like that in the first place.

Example, If you have a company that make 100 drives, and one that makes 10 drives, if the 100 drive maker has 20 drives that fail, and the 10 drive maker has 2 drives that fail, is there really a significant difference?