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This has probably been done a billion times but wanted to test it for myself. Stock, XMP, XMP 3800 and XMP 3800 with better timings
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Looks like the resolution doesn't match the thread 'standard'. A benchmark thread needs to follow set parameters from which to benchmark against. Resolution needs to be at 1080p.
 
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My 5600x limit in some games my 6700 XT, so I want the new 5600x with 3D cache :p
 
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My 5600x limit in some games my 6700 XT, so I want the new 5600x with 3D cache :p
If you get it, would be sweet if you could post some scores with it :) I am curios about both Zen 3D and Alder Lake
 
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If you get it, would be sweet if you could post some scores with it :) I am curios about both Zen 3D and Alder Lake
Same - seems like Zen3 scales like crazy with memory and latency so I imagine that 3D cache + tuned memory would be nuts.
 
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Intel Core i9-12900K @ DDR4 3866 C14-14-14-34 2T Gear1
(seems like memory controller have same limitations as with Rocket Lake, and ~8000 MT/s are needed for DDR5 to be faster then the fastest DDR4 we have today)
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Unsure if this was done at 1080p highest or lowest, but there are a maximum difference around ~15 game cpu fps between these two settings..
Either way, not really impressive in my book i'm afraid :confused:
 
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Intel Core i9-12900K @ DDR4 3866 C14-14-14-34 2T Gear1
(seems like memory controller have same limitations as with Rocket Lake, and ~8000 MT/s are needed for DDR5 to be faster then the fastest DDR4 we have today)
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Unsure if this was done at 1080p highest or lowest, but there are a maximum difference around ~15 game cpu fps between these two settings..
Either way, not really impressive in my book i'm afraid :confused:
Yeah, I was just reading something similar regarding DDR5 memory speeds needed for being better than DDR4, and some other not so good news regarding Alder Lake. Lets see when they launch, maybe it will be better. Would still love to see some comparative benchmarks though :) Competition is needed.
 
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not terrible but yes not impressive either... especially since 3866 C14 is pretty optimized. A current gen 5600x with those settings would smash it....
 

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Intel Core i9-12900K @ DDR4 3866 C14-14-14-34 2T Gear1
(seems like memory controller have same limitations as with Rocket Lake, and ~8000 MT/s are needed for DDR5 to be faster then the fastest DDR4 we have today)
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Unsure if this was done at 1080p highest or lowest, but there are a maximum difference around ~15 game cpu fps between these two settings..
Either way, not really impressive in my book i'm afraid :confused:
It was highest, look at that GPU bound % too it's 99%. Reviewing a CPU with GPU bound settings in a game is kinda weird
 
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It was highest, look at that GPU bound % too it's 99%. Reviewing a CPU with GPU bound settings in a game is kinda weird
Are you new to this thread ? We are comparing "cpu game" which relay purely on cpu+memory performance, not gpu. :)
Looks like mobile chip memory subsystem that had to be repurposed to desktop and compromises were made..
 
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Benchmark Scores CB20 4710@4.7GHz Aida64 50.4ns 4.8GHz+4000cl16 tuned ram SOTTR 1080p low 248fps avg CPU game
Some further testing at 1080p lowest cpu avg fps, 3 rounds, all pbo with 76W limit:
4000cl16 1T CO+200pbo r-bar on: 237
4000cl16 1T CO+200pbo r-bar off: 245
4000cl16 1T 4.8GHz@1.32V r-bar on: 240
4000cl16 1T 4.8GHz@1.32V r-bar off: 248 (consumption 5-15W above CO+200pbo)
3800cl15 1T CO+200pbo r-bar on: 234 (3800 needs 40mv lower soc and iod voltage so CPU runs 25-50MHz higher vs 4000cl16)
4000cl16 1T stock r-bar on: 225
Stock kjører CPU 4.65 SC og 4.3 MC. With pb+200 it runs 4.85 SC and 4.55 MC.

Wrap-up: activating r-bar reduces cpu avg fps by about 3%. CO+200pbo increase perf by around 5%. 4000cl16 is 1% faster than 3800cl15, but CPU freqency at 4000 is a bit lower since the io-die use 1-2W more). 4000 is actually about 2% fadter.
In aida 3800cl15 gets 57/30/53 and 53.5ns.
4000cl16 gir 60/32/55 and 52ns.
4000cl16 4.8GHz gives 0.5ns lower, but same R/W/C.
 
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Some further testing at 1080p lowest cpu avg fps, 3 rounds, all pbo with 76W limit:
4000cl16 1T CO+200pbo r-bar on: 237
4000cl16 1T CO+200pbo r-bar off: 245
4000cl16 1T 4.8GHz@1.32V r-bar on: 240
4000cl16 1T 4.8GHz@1.32V r-bar off: 248 (consumption 5-15W above CO+200pbo)
3800cl15 1T CO+200pbo r-bar on: 234 (3800 needs 40mv lower soc and iod voltage so CPU runs 25-50MHz higher vs 4000cl16)
4000cl16 1T stock r-bar on: 225
Stock kjører CPU 4.65 SC og 4.3 MC. With pb+200 it runs 4.85 SC and 4.55 MC.

Wrap-up: activating r-bar reduces cpu avg fps by about 3%. CO+200pbo increase perf by around 5%. 4000cl16 is 1% faster than 3800cl15, but CPU freqency at 4000 is a bit lower since the io-die use 1-2W more). 4000 is actually about 2% fadter.
In aida 3800cl15 gets 57/30/53 and 53.5ns.
4000cl16 gir 60/32/55 and 52ns.
4000cl16 4.8GHz gives 0.5ns lower, but same R/W/C.
Is that on Win 10? I noticed that in Win 11 Rebar actually gives me a slight improvement, in Win 10 I always got a slight regression in this bench.
 
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Benchmark Scores CB20 4710@4.7GHz Aida64 50.4ns 4.8GHz+4000cl16 tuned ram SOTTR 1080p low 248fps avg CPU game
Is that on Win 10? I noticed that in Win 11 Rebar actually gives me a slight improvement, in Win 10 I always got a slight regression in this bench.
Yes, windows 10. There seems to be some issues with 11 still so I wait :)
 
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Yes, windows 10. There seems to be some issues with 11 still so I wait :)
Yeah, MS doing the "good" work again, patching a Ryzen issue and making it worse, looking at Aida Mem bench, one could cry :laugh:

After this weeks MS patch, that was supposed to fix this, mem latencies are worse by 5ns, and L3 cache is up to 10x slower :eek:

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Also lost 26 Fps in this bench after last W11 update, though its still 22Fps faster than anything I could achieve on Win 10.

Curios about the actual fix, could be even faster than before in Win11.
 
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Did some benchmarks @ daily 24/7 settings vs the fastest 11900k ive seen (5.3Ghz + Cache 4.8Ghz + Gear1 DR 4000-CL13) on a other forum, can share the SotTR run here also.
This run was performed in win10, my old 313 max run was done in windows11 which gives higher scores in this benchmark for some strange reason.
By mistake i also had rebar enabled for this run. (gives higher render and gpu numbers, but lower cpu game)
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(benchmark was ran in 1080p fullscreen, minimized after to show my settings)
 
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Did some benchmarks @ daily 24/7 settings vs the fastest 11900k ive seen (5.3Ghz + Cache 4.8Ghz + Gear1 DR 4000-CL13) on a other forum, can share the SotTR run here also.
This run was performed in win10, my old 313 max run was done in windows11 which gives higher scores in this benchmark for some strange reason.
By mistake i also had rebar enabled for this run. (gives higher render and gpu numbers, but lower cpu game)
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(benchmark was ran in 1080p fullscreen, minimized after to show my settings)
Damn, your Ram timings are out of this world :D
So, what was the fastest run with the 11900k?
And yeah, I also get a lot better results in W11 in this bench vs W10
 
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Damn, your Ram timings are out of this world :D
So, what was the fastest run with the 11900k?
And yeah, I also get a lot better results in W11 in this bench vs W10
Just click the "spoiler" in the linked post to that other forum, there are more games and information there. :)

  • CPU : 11900K@5312Mhz (SP89)
  • Cache : 4802Mhz
  • Memory OC : 3950Mhz-13-13-13-14-215-2T (1:1)
  • M/B : ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XIII APEX (BIOS : 1102)
  • Memory : G.SKILL Trident Z Royal 32GB (2 x 16GB) (F4-4000C14D-32GTRG)
  • Voltages (Bios) : CPU 1.420v / RAM 1.610v / SA 1.440v / Mem OC IO 1.420v / vppddr 2.485v
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This is the fastest rocket lake i have seen.
 
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Just click the "spoiler" in the linked post to that other forum, there are more games and information there. :)

  • CPU : 11900K@5312Mhz (SP89)
  • Cache : 4802Mhz
  • Memory OC : 3950Mhz-13-13-13-14-215-2T (1:1)
  • M/B : ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XIII APEX (BIOS : 1102)
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  • Voltages (Bios) : CPU 1.420v / RAM 1.610v / SA 1.440v / Mem OC IO 1.420v / vppddr 2.485v
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This is the fastest rocket lake i have seen.
Ok, so me with my measly 5800X and not so great RAM at 3800mhz CL16 have 287 FPS, and more important, better CPU game than a uber maxxed out 11900K at 5.3Ghz ... :laugh: What has the world become :D
 
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There are more games to compare. This game favors AMD more. My binned 10900k in f1 2020 and metro exodus 2033

Try win11 with 24/7 setting. linpack extreme passes.

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