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what the hell is that stable?

Nice!

adata d41 spectrix 3600 cl7 kit @3733 cl14 1.5v and 4000 cl16 1.45v but can't pass 1866 FCLK so worthless.
 

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I got myself a kit of 3200C14 B-Die Trident Z and started fiddling around with the DRAM Calculator.

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MSI B450M Mortar
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3200 14-14-14-28-42-1T-GDD @ 1.37:
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A bit high on the Latency and not very impressive Writing bandwidth

3600 14-15-14-28-42-1T-GDE @ 1.42
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Quite a lot better!

But now it got funky. I discovered a difference in performance when entering timings directly into bios or through Ryzen Master. Above is Ryzen Master. Below is BIOS
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Exact same timing and settings! That's a hefty drop! The only way to restore performance is setting timings on auto in bios again and use Ryzen Master to override them again.


Then I gave it another shot at 3733 at CL14 which didn't boot and at CL16 it gave me worse performance than 3600CL14. I almost gave up until I decided to give the DRAM calculator another shop at 3800MHz. Here the settings and results:

3800 16-17-16-32-50-1T-GDE @ 1.42v
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And that's good enough for me. I'm currently testing if it's stable for 24/7 and so far it devoured everything I threw at it. Prime and Memtest and Gaming. 1.42 is a really nice low voltage and not much heat is coming from it but when the GPU is heating up the are touching 50 degrees. I'm going to switch around the layout of the cooling a bit or get a Dominator Airflow cooler on top of it to make sure they stay cool. I'm working in an M-ATX case and AIO cooler not much airflow options.

I think with some better cooling and a bit more voltage this memory is not out of breath yet and I could tighten timings a bit here and there but for now I'm really satisfied with the performance increase.

I failed to make an Aida64 bench screenshot at XMP baseline but it was lower than my first screenshot here for the ease of things lets compare the first screenshot with the last:

Read: 48100 MB/s -> 55500 MB/s = +7400 MB/s
Write: 25600 MB/s -> 30400 MB/s = +4800 MB/s
Copy: 46200 MB/s -> 53100 MB/s = + 6900 MB/s
Latency: 74.2 -> 65.8 = - 8.4 ns

How this translates to real world performance depends on the application it doesn't help with GPU bound resolution gaming but might help with some other things.
 

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Yeah, similar issues here. Every calc I've tried just bootlooped me insensible. Only way I could get it to even POST anywhere near that mythical 1900MHz was to enable XMP, set MEM SPD to 3800 manually and let everything else run Auto. She'll crank the CPU right up there and throughput is lower but still in the same ballpark; however latency crunks out a good 10ns slower.

I'll admit I really don't know what I'm doing in there anymore, though; I haven't done this shit for close to a decade. :-/

I'm waiting for some more real-world info on my build; I'm sure somebody with more knowledge can get these numbers down. I had it down to 64ns/54Ksomething READ ONE TIME and it crashed when I saved, and refused to POST again after that.

I know this RAM is capable of more; I found out AFTER I bought on a "Deal of the day" that it is record-setting gear: https://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ballistix-elite-world-record
 
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Really can't knock this $89 (equivalent cost) memory kit from Patriot. I wasn't overly impressed when I started, but as more mature UEFI updates have come up, the memory has coped with higher clocks and tighter timings. The only one I can't change is tRCDRD, as then the system won't boot for some reason.
It runs on lower Voltages and at slightly tighter timings that the DRAM calculator suggests at these speeds.



 

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Inspired by the successes of Cidious and Lost Swede seen above, I decided to take another stab at it with Ryzen Master. I must say, I'm definitely much pleased; managed to break over 54K and under 66nS with CPU OC at full Auto.

Would love to see something like Swede's numbers, but can't seem to shake the "No POSTies" if i drop ANYTHING any lower at either 3667 or 3733. 3800 is just totally out to lunch with latencies in the high 70s as seen in my last post. :facepalm:

I'm currently beating on the machine at 3667; will compare both to see which is better in gaming vs content creation vs crash-resistance.

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So XMP2 decided to be stable, well I won't complain - reran five times and no BSODs (unlike my z270 system or my carbon)
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