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covfefe lake.

Might want to tweak the Uncore/Northbridge next; not sure if it does all that much though.

today i got my new g.skill trident z 4400 mhz kit.4400 at first try but limitations of ryzen 3000(FCLK) it's not good latency.i have to set 3733 cl14.i've showed my old adata 3600@3733 cl14 and if you remember you're asked if it's stable.yes but require 1.5v but g.skill needs 1.45v.you can use 1.45v daily but i won't use 1.5v daily.
 
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mine i cant get much better then this i guess 4600C18 gskill

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Just curious, what model memory you are running here? Is it the G.Skill F4-4000C18D-16GTZ?

Reason I ask is because I just purchased this kit and I'm interested in overclocking it.
 

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I've got that same 4600/18 Trident Z kit - it's pure unadulterated awesomeness

LOL not certain if that 11.2ns latency value is truly possible. :laugh:

Like my Z390 Dark board generating software artifacts registering way beyond natural physics, my Z390 Dark does the same thing. It's kinda fun... :D

Nice Speed Parts jorj02, you've got some great taste in hardware.

"That man likes his responsiveness served up FAST!" :roll:

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About that 4600Mhz 18cl kit (F4-4600C18D-16GTRS). I get tons of 34ns and 35ns AIDA latency scores that simply aren't stable, so many errors in MemTest. My MemTest stable scores are around 36ns and 37ns for AIDA...

Learned a little bit about 2ndary and tertiary timings last month and moved from a daily 4400Mhz 17 17 34 to 4500Mhz 17 17 34, the increased responsiveness was not slight at all, more like vast and immense.

An engineering buddy of mine has the Trident Z 4800/18 kit (wish I had bought that kit :ohwell: - stupid me) and he's running a daily MemTest stable 4800/17.

:eek: That's Unbelievable!!! :eek:

I can only imagine what that must FEEL like, one day I hope to experience such speed, maybe with Alder Lake next year...

Specific notations on the engineering buddy's results:
1) He had to try 3 different 4800/18 Trident Z kits to achieve the above stable results
2) Has an almost unlimited supply of CPU IMCs available for sampling and testing - something most of us do not have
3) Has years of memory overclocking experience to draw from - highly skilled
4) Still took an estimated 120hrs to 160hrs of testing to achieve the above results

So yea, resources and skills not available to most of us, certainly not me. :oops:

My 4600/18 kit: (pic below) - sweet as honey. :)

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Let me find that engineering buddy's AIDA results, it's around here somewhere.

Got it.

Probably not a better overall AIDA score that's truly MemTest STABLE on the planet. Not only latency, look at those READ WRITE and COPY scores - astonishing. :eek:

Wish they were my scores, but no. :ohwell:

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@storm-chaser You add a laughing reaction to my post? This is a daily stable overclock and I'm not done tuning yet, I suppose it's funny this is a £100 ram kit that beats your overpriced kit and board though, isn't it? I'm curious on your thoughts, as this RAM kit was happily doing 4500mhz too at 17-17-17-34.
 
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The z820 has been approved for a video card plus coprocessor card(s) as a factory configuration ---- see the avid or Telsa configurations for details on these setups, they can put out a lot of heat and yet the system will still run within the factory thermal envelope without any issues. The HP z820 has one of the best OEM cooling systems ever created. It's still in a class of it's own as far as I am concerned.

AIDA64 Results (took a slight latency hit in populating all 8 channels) but it's well worth it for the bandwidth improvements.


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@storm-chaser You add a laughing reaction to my post? This is a daily stable overclock and I'm not done tuning yet, I suppose it's funny this is a £100 ram kit that beats your overpriced kit and board though, isn't it? I'm curious on your thoughts, as this RAM kit was happily doing 4500mhz too at 17-17-17-34.

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@storm-chaser You add a laughing reaction to my post? This is a daily stable overclock and I'm not done tuning yet, I suppose it's funny this is a £100 ram kit that beats your overpriced kit and board though, isn't it? I'm curious on your thoughts, as this RAM kit was happily doing 4500mhz too at 17-17-17-34.

Nice work bro! :clap:

4500Mhz 17 17 17 34 - FEELS amazing doesn't it? Woooooooo! It's like a miracle - vastly more responsive than 4400Mhz 17 17 17 34, and I don't even know why. Moved my everyday to 4500 17 17 17 37 (the value 34 to 37) like 3days ago, an overclocking genius (not me lol :D) told me it would make a more stable oc, so I figured what the heck - a few clicks later and...voila!

Let me grab an updated screenshot for you - 5minutes be right back lol...

Here we go

17-17-17-37 seems to be the bestest sweetspot right now for speeds 4400, 4500, 4600, 4700 and 4800. Don't ask me why, but I'm loving my new mem oc so much!

And to think I had this kit since last May 2019 and ran it at 4400Mhz 17 17 17 34 for 9months, my lazy ass. lol :D

4500Mhz is beyond belief. :clap:

Don't think I can run 4600Mhz 17 17 17 37. But that's ok, I'm already in work application responsiveness heaven, I'll wait for the Alder Lake kits, believe they may be the last and most mature ddr4 kits before the transition, then with a new CPU IMC I'll move to 4800 or 5200 or whatevers. :)

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Yeah generally, you're fine with 39 tRAS even, you generally won't lose performance and you can push primaries down further sometimes or even drop IMC volts/stabilise the OC much easier, 1DPC sure is absolutely awesome for memory overclocking, nice work!
 
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Nice work bro! :clap:

4500Mhz 17 17 17 34 - FEELS amazing doesn't it? Woooooooo! It's like a miracle - vastly more responsive than 4400Mhz 17 17 17 34, and I don't even know why. Moved my everyday to 4500 17 17 17 37 (the value 34 to 37) like 3days ago, an overclocking genius (not me lol :D) told me it would make a more stable oc, so I figured what the heck - a few clicks later and...voila!

Let me grab an updated screenshot for you - 5minutes be right back lol...

Here we go

17-17-17-37 seems to be the bestest sweetspot right now for speeds 4400, 4500, 4600, 4700 and 4800. Don't ask me why, but I'm loving my new mem oc so much!

And to think I had this kit since last May 2019 and ran it at 4400Mhz 17 17 17 34 for 9months, my lazy ass. lol :D

4500Mhz is beyond belief. :clap:

Don't think I can run 4600Mhz 17 17 17 37. But that's ok, I'm already in work application responsiveness heaven, I'll wait for the Alder Lake kits, believe they may be the last and most mature ddr4 kits before the transition, then with a new CPU IMC I'll move to 4800 or 5200 or whatevers. :)

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Been a while since I posted in this thread.

Thought I would give your 17-17-17-37 timings a try with my 24/7 clocks.


What are your AIDA64 results like?


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Yeah generally, you're fine with 39 tRAS even, you generally won't lose performance and you can push primaries down further sometimes or even drop IMC volts/stabilise the OC much easier, 1DPC sure is absolutely awesome for memory overclocking, nice work!

You're always getting cool new gear man. I haven't upgraded anything since January, ho hum. :oops:

Been a while since I posted in this thread.

Thought I would give your 17-17-17-37 timings a try with my 24/7 clocks.


What are your AIDA64 results like?

Nice work... :)

Good question, I haven't run AIDA 64 with my newest latest daily work ddr4 oc 4500Mhz 17 17 17 37. I know that since I have to swap out my Primary work OS drive the Optane 900P and install the tiny Optane M.2 32GB drive I use for AIDA performance testing.

AIDA 64 can mess up your Windows installation permanently if you are really pushing your modules, so I always swap to another drive for testing.

I've got probably a dozen AIDA 64 screenshots here in this thread though - different settings. :)

If I were to guess, I'd say it was around 35ns or 36ns, nothing earth-shakingly low. There seems to be more to what I feel in overall responsiveness other than simply that single AIDA 64 latency value. Read Speed I believe factored in when moving from 4400Mhz to 4500Mhz (or higher) while maintaining CL17 makes every task and operation FEEL much faster more responsive.

I think the AIDA 64 READ value is also extremely important to overall responsiveness. lol

Also, the Optane 900P SSD's latency is way down at 10micro seconds, works really well with the Samsung B-die Trident Z sticks. That probably has something to do with the overall responsiveness I'm feeling from 4400Mhz 17 to 4500Mhz 17. :)

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I have never heard that. When you say it can mess it up, in what way?
 
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I have never heard that. When you say it can mess it up, in what way?

When AIDA 64 begins working in an unstable ddr4 latency range - reading latency values of 30ns, 26ns, 20ns, which are currently impossible, my Windows installation begins to no longer apply Intel SpeedStep even though the Win 10 power setting is set to Balanced mode. So instead of SpeedStep kicking in after 1-2minutes and the 8086K idling while I'm typing way down at 0.81 or 0.82Ghz (screenshot below), the CPU will not drop below 4.02Ghz, no matter what I do to try and change it.

So as a workaround, I no longer run AIDA 64 with my Win 10 work application installation on the Optane 900P drive - I move to another drive, an M.2 drive and different Win 10 install for all performance testing, AIDA, Cinebench, CPU-Z, Passmark, any benchmark, to eliminate the need to reformat my work drive then add work applications, and files yea, it takes about 6 unnecessary hours, and I've had AIDA 64 create the same non-functioning SpeedStep issue about six times, so learned my lesson. :oops:

Maybe it's my motherboard or bios? I don't really know, but it happens anytime I push AIDA or my ddr4 sticks. You can kinda tell it's about to happen when AIDA 64 struggles to complete.

This screenshot below is SpeedStep working properly:

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Yeah, but that is not a problem that AIDA causes. Its a problem your unstable OC causes. So one could say AIDA is good at catching unstable OCs.
 
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System Name Cheapskate Maximus
Processor Xeon W3680 @ 3.99Ghz [133x30] [1.375v]
Motherboard HP Z400 Rev 2
Cooling Alpenfohn Brocken v1
Memory 3 x 4GB DDR3-1600
Video Card(s) Sapphire RX570 Nitro+
Storage 240GB WD SSD, 6 x 2TB HDD
Display(s) 27" iiyama XB2783HSU AMVA+
Case AeroCool
Power Supply HP 600w Bronze (Delta)
Keyboard Gots keys
Software W10 x64
Can't remember if I posted mine but here goes. I would have used my E5-1650-V2 but that system is my bedroom gaming system and the W3680 is my front room system. It's holding up surprisingly well to be honest. (just need to upgrade the memory to something that's at least DDR-3 1866+)

(Oh and as a bonus this system is 10 years old now and it handles Doom Eternal beautifully!)

3.73Ghz Benchmark.PNG
 
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