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Excellent thank you. Just in the backyard watching my boys play badminton, getting ready to fire up the bbq so I will be sure to try for more after dinner :)

I’m hoping she can do it. This bios kind of gets flaky past 2066. After that the sounds gets unstable, but was okish a few revs ago up to 2133 so it has to be a software thing.. or maybe it’s not. I’m running just two sticks right now to lighten the load.. sorta.. still a bit tight have to use some extra volts all around.. that’s easy enough to change.
 
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1140 soc and 1060 iod works fine on 4066\2033 at my setup, but I get lower performance vs 4000\2000, increasing voltage further helps, but it gets a bit too high. 4133\2066 I have not been able to boot even at higher voltage than this. Currently running 1120 soc, 1040 iod, 840 ccd and 840 vddp at 4000\2000 without errors or instability. Running soc at 1100 or lower also works fine, as does iod at 1020 or lower, BUT performance is lower. For instance I lost 100 points in CB20 and got 3ns higher latency with soc at 1080 and iod at 1000. Instead of becoming unstable like on Ryzen 3k you get performance degredation at low voltage.
 

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Thanks buddy!

I was up there voltage wise, but I will try those as starting points and see what happens :cool:
 
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This new bios is pretty decent :)

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Not sure why it reads my ram like that, they are set up like in my avatar :confused:
 
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Agesa 1.2.0.1 or newer?

Dimm Slot A2 and B2 are Dimm 1 and Dimm 2. A1 and B1 are Dimm 3 and Dimm 4

I wouldnt trust Aida if it reads it wrong :D :)
 

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Agesa 1.2.0.1 or newer?

Dimm Slot A2 and B2 are Dimm 1 and Dimm 2. A1 and B1 are Dimm 3 and Dimm 4

I wouldnt trust Aida if it reads it wrong :D :)
ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING BIOS 2201
"- Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.2
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Its still a beta but she rocks pretty good.. I knew it was just a software thing I was dealing with.. I haven't tried with 2 sticks yet.
 
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My second set of the Vipers will arrive this following week, hoping for 4000Mhz with 4 sticks...if not, I will have to settle for 3800 or something
 

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Actually.. I'm not sure if it is the bios, or the fact I was trying to run 1T with GDM on, I still have GDM on but set 2T in bios, yet shows 1T in windows.. Its a little weird to me.. seems a bit backwards..
 
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I think GDM over-rides the command rate setting, thats why you are seeing 1T instead of the Bios set 2T
 

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Actually.. I'm not sure if it is the bios, or the fact I was trying to run 1T with GDM on, I still have GDM on but set 2T in bios, yet shows 1T in windows.. Its a little weird to me.. seems a bit backwards..

GDM is its own setting. As long as it's on, you can set whatever CR you like and it shouldn't make a lick of difference.

Damn I like that mixed aesthetic. Looks almost like two really fat DIMMs that are black and white on one side and blinged out on the other :D
 

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I know man! Like I said when I saw them for the very first time, I felt kinda silly for buying them, and they make me feel silly even still lol but they are a heck of a lot of fun to play with, and my kids love em :D

I know it shouldn't make a difference.. I have 2T set in bios right now, but everything in windows is showing 1T. This thing is just doing its own thing right now, and it doesn't seem to appreciate when you get creative with the timings either.. I suppose they want you to buy their nicer board for that kind of thing..
 
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Updated results with the newest 13g BIOS. DRAM set at 4266Mhz. Memory latency has increased since I updated the BIOS.

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Updated results with the newest 13g BIOS. DRAM set at 4266Mhz. Memory latency has increased since I updated the BIOS.

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We have the same board.

You forgot to disable TSME. Instant 7-10ns reduction. That, and you are running CL19 so there's only so low it's gonna go.

Also, Infinity Fabric might be desynced. Pretty evident from the full speed R/W but horrid copy speed. Even 4000CL16 should be above 55GB/s copy on latest AGESA, I'm at a hair over 59GB/s at 4200. Make sure you are actually running 2133MHz IF at that speed.

TSME and IF together add up to the roughly 10ns deficit I'd expect from seeing that result.
 
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Thanks for your reply. I had TSME disabled but had uclk/2 mode enabled (doh !). With the fclk, uclk and memclk set to 2133 this is the new result.

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You got B-die? Lowering timings to 17-17-17@1.45V and 2T should be doable on even a bad binned kit. That will help performance a lot :) Post a zentimingsshot and we can help you with other timings :)
 
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Very impressive. Very good timings! What voltage are you running on ram?
 
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OK, got the 2nd set in

1st problem: My "old set" aparently had an A2 PCB...the "new one" has A0 PCB

So I went with A2 pcb in primary slots A2/B2 and A0 pcb in A1/B1


I got up to 3933 without changing many of the timings from my 4000 set (Only tertiary), changed RTT to 7 3 3 or 7 3 4, upped vDimm from 1.47 to 1.49 and 60 20 40 20 on CAD instead of 60 20 20 20.

2nd Problem: Its very hard to get it to post after i enter the bios. Literally I can just enter bios, not change anything, hit Save & Exit...thing doesnt post. It will eventually and then its working flawless. I can reboot manually, I can shut down and turn it on again, no problemo. I get in the bios again, thing stops working as i described above.


What am i missing on then?


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OK, got the 2nd set in

1st problem: My "old set" aparently had an A2 PCB...the "new one" has A0 PCB

So I went with A2 pcb in primary slots A2/B2 and A0 pcb in A1/B1


I got up to 3933 without changing many of the timings from my 4000 set (Only tertiary), changed RTT to 7 3 3 or 7 3 4, upped vDimm from 1.47 to 1.49 and 60 20 40 20 on CAD instead of 60 20 20 20.

2nd Problem: Its very hard to get it to post after i enter the bios. Literally I can just enter bios, not change anything, hit Save & Exit...thing doesnt post. It will eventually and then its working flawless. I can reboot manually, I can shut down and turn it on again, no problemo. I get in the bios again, thing stops working as i described above.


What am i missing on then?


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Do you have daisy chain or T-top? If it`s D-chain you might not get to 4000 with loosening som timings or mayby stick with 3933 as A1\B1 sucks balls for speed. I think Bullzoid did a video where he made a comparison between D-chain, T-top and 2-slot. If 2 slot can do 4200, D-chain can do 4000 in 2 slots, T-top can do 3800 i 4 slots and D-chain can only do 3600 i 4 slots.
 
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X570 Prime-P... No clue what it is tbh...

Edit: It is a daisy chain
 
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Edit: It is a daisy chain
Ah, it might be the board itself struggling with 4000 :\ Tried 4000 with really loose timings to see if that works?
 
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