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Should a limit be set for uploading Images/Screenshots in certain threads?


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Based on a discussion that took place here;
It was suggested that a thread be opened to get feedback from site users on the topic for site admins/mods to consider.

A poll has been created for users to give input, you can jump into the comments or both.

The idea here is that we can offer input to the admins/mods about the issue in a constructive way. All idea's are welcome and lets keep it respectful and friendly.

My personal take is as follows;
@robot zombie brought up a good point, you click to a comment from a link in the UI and then images start to load and we're left chasing said comment down the page. It can be irritating at times. For threads who's sole existence is for images, this is a thing that comes with the territory. But for most general threads, restraint by us users should be observed.
 
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I personally don’t have a problem with one or up to two visible in the post to highlight what is being said about the play. I usually then put the remainder in a spoiler tag.

W1zzard has never mandated a photo limit, so i don’t think one should be set. So, I’m ok with guidelines like I suggested on how they be presented, but not an outright limit.

DEFINITELY NO thumbnails.
 
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I voted other. I say for one or two pictures, leave them full size. More than 2 and all pictures are automatically switched to thumbnails.

Edit: And an addition to this, I'd also like an option in personal settings that lets people turn this feature on and off. So people that want to always see full size images can turn it off and always see full size images.
 
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I don't think limits should be set/enforced. Though as a former customer of a terrible ISP and current customer of a somewhat less-terrible ISP I can completely understand how annoying it is when a page takes an eternity to fully load. Heck, still happens to me three times a day everyday at work with the tax office's web services, so that feeling is always fresh :laugh:

I agree that we should restrain ourselves a bit, however. Perhaps add a suggestion about it to the Forum Guidelines? I don't know what the rest of the world does when they sign up on any online forum, but I do take a few minutes to read them and try to comply whenever I'm posting anything here...
EDIT: That kinda feels a bit excessive, thinking about it...
 
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I voted other. I say for one or two pictures, leave them full size. More than 2 and all pictures are automatically switched to thumbnails.
I agree with this, about the only exception is for the dark room thread where it is all about the photos
 

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I don't think a hard limit would be good. More crap to enforce and another potential drama source. To me, it falls on the level basic conscientiousness... it's etiquette. And enforcing etiquette in minute, particular ways tends to lead to unforeseen problems later on. It's also kind of a slippery slope towards a more dogmatic community atmosphere. I have a lot of experience on forums, on both sides, and I think you guys on staff do a great job of maintaining a pretty healthy and open community... I don't see things going that way, but on principle it's not the best look. This isn't a bureaucratic exchange - it's a place for people to gather, share in their interests, and be themselves. I'm not saying leave it wide-open. Just a little open.

It's simple, really. The more arbitrary rules you lay out, the fewer of them people will follow, and the less those that do follow are willing to continue following when pressed. Save hard rules for things that absolutely require hard rules.

It'd be ideal if we could all come to some sort of spoken agreement to be considerate when posting multiple images. Any healthy community can manage that, I think. It should just be part of the established etiquette, supported by users and staff alike. And I think most people already understand this intuitively... we just forget. I did just the other day... and then this came up and I quickly put them between spoiler tags. No big deal.

I say put it in the guidelines... and then I'm sure many of us who've been around and get why it should be that way will follow it and try to remind others to do the same. Just a general request that non-image-centric threads not be flooded with lots of full-size images. Best not to make a big thing out of it, you know? It's nothing for most people to be expected to follow that when they can. And if for some reason there's a problem, users can always report the post and mods can give a nudge, or edit the post should the user either not be active in a reasonable time-frame or simply refuse, which I think probably wouldn't happen for no reason, anyway. That's the other thing... it's a judgement call situation and you can't account for everything. Sometimes, it's a given. Sometimes the reason is not obvious and requires a quick hashing-out. Other times, it's not necessary for every image to load automatically.

It's just that you can't expect that to be the way to go unanimously. It goes both ways. Sometimes people will want to post larger images, but shouldn't. Other times, it's much better if they're large, even if it weighs down the page. We all have to shoulder that, one way or another.

As far as practices go... I personally am not a fan of thumbnails. Especially lots of them. Say I want to examine all of the images on a page. If they're thumbnails, it can easy be as bothersome as having them all load can be for someone who doesn't want to view them. Because now, I have to click each one and either go back and forth between the overlay or push them all into tabs as I go. Not very convenient. I'm much more likely to skip over stuff that I might've otherwise appreciated. And on the flipside, knowing I'm going to be limited to thumbnails is going to make me less likely to want to post certain images. If people can't quite make out what the image is, they're not so liable to click on it in the first place. So why bother?

I think spoilers are the best middle ground. If it's not a picture-centric thread, spoilers shouldn't be a problem. And as suggested it should be acceptable to show one image in a set. That still leaves the issue of posts with pictures spaced out between text, where they all have context that makes it so that if those images were skipped, would cut-out the message. Those either have to be spoilers, or maybe just scaled down to half-size or something. Still no need for thumbnails imo. Having them small enough to load reasonably, but still big enough to make out the images well should be sufficient.

But again, it's hard to draw a line. The range of content here (or really, on any forum) is too varied to be able to effectively control things like this. It's probably better if everyone just does whatever they wanna do in order to not flood threads with images. Let us cater our measures to our content. Sometimes, a thumbnail is fine. Other times, you may want to show the images in a little more detail, so maybe make them a little larger than a thumbnail... like around double the size, if there's only a few. Or maybe you can compromise on image quality and compression in order to post more. Having that as an option built-in would be great, though a global implementation would hinder people like me, who like to upload high-quality photos and screenshots.) Flickr does pretty well with their compression though. A global implementation of something like that probably wouldn't leave anybody wanting and at least wouldn't bog people down as much. For screenshots, a good gallery would completely eliminate the need for anything more than maybe one medium-sized preview or a handful of smaller ones.


Honestly though, the best solution is probably through better software. We could use thumbnails more effectively if the viewer was more streamlined. Hover-preview and click for full-size would be neat. I'm sure there are all sorts of options that would greatly mitigate the issue, though I wouldn't really know off of the top of my head. Maybe something worth looking into.
 
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I voted other. I say for one or two pictures, leave them full size. More than 2 and all pictures are automatically switched to thumbnails.

I like this one. Especially the automatic switching part. Don't leave it up to users or etiquette, and its also no longer 56K days, the vast majority should be able to cope just fine with two fullsize pics per post - even per full page that is still a limited, controlled number of pictures. And if they can't - its clear enough what topics to stay clear of.

I recognize this debate from the What are you playing topic, and its a legitimate thing to think about. Topics that are about to become a copy of Instagram are perhaps not the best way to go about it :) Some restraint is good.
 

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The pics aren't a nuisance for me. I don't recall them being a problem even back when I had a slow broadband connection. You kind of expect to see some pics on the What Are You Playing thread.
 
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Just be patient in waiting for the thread to load. And of you upload compress the file under 2 mb. Its not that hard

I don't like image hosting outside of TPU for a couple of reasons. One is the older threads end up with an X because months/years later the photos are gone. And two my work block all image hosting sites but not TPU.
 

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Voted for thumbnails and spoilers. Most of the time, or if I have more than 1 image in a post, then I'm trying to line them up in thumbnails, cause with current scaling I know that my 4K screenshots(even small window snips) will occupy most of the screen space.
Though, imposing a limit on images per post is not a good idea. I'm not sure if there is still an old 10-image limit, but I know that before I had hard times posting logs and projects cause I had to split the writeup in several posts, or start the thread w/ initial post, and 2-3 reserved posts as placeholders for more pics.
 
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Yes I think there is still a 10 image limit. Project Logs needs at least 10 pics per post
 
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I voted other. I say for one or two pictures, leave them full size. More than 2 and all pictures are automatically switched to thumbnails.
This. And maybe add how many pics are in the spoiler, so you can prepare a meal or so till it's loaded.
 

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Some threads like Robert B's old hardware emporium would be affected, so i voted no.

All of Robert B's posts in that thread are... thumbnails already! OMG, so tell me how it would be affected!?!

But, just like most everything else, exceptions can be made for threads or areas of the forum where the image limitation would be an issue.
 
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Based on a discussion that took place here;
It was suggested that a thread be opened to get feedback from site users on the topic for site admins/mods to consider.

A poll has been created for users to give input, you can jump into the comments or both.

The idea here is that we can offer input to the admins/mods about the issue in a constructive way. All idea's are welcome and lets keep it respectful and friendly.

My personal take is as follows;
@robot zombie brought up a good point, you click to a comment from a link in the UI and then images start to load and we're left chasing said comment down the page. It can be irritating at times. For threads who's sole existence is for images, this is a thing that comes with the territory. But for most general threads, restraint by us users should be observed.

Do you have a slow internet connection or a bandwidth cap?
In that case I understand.
 

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It's specific users doing the picture spam and there wasn't any spam to speak of in "What are you playing" thread until a good six months after it was created (there was always a separate thread for screenshot spam).

I went back and downloaded all of the pictures that thread was making me download (excluding thumbnails which load instantly) to see the reply box, here's the totals:
UserImagesSizeAvg/Img
Cvrk4 PNG14.1 MiB3.53 MiB
Robert zombie10 PNG34.7 MiB3.47 MiB
SN27160577 JPG10.8 MiB1.54 MiB
That's 59.6 MiB I didn't ask to see! It's gotten out of hand. Not to mention wasting a crapload of bandwidth for @W1zzard since all of these images are hosted by the forum.

I see that someone went back and spoilered most of robert zombie's and SN2716057's images (thanks for that by the way) but Cvrk's still cause problems because they aren't spoilered, it takes roughly 18 seconds to load (0.8 MiB/s) the whole post with 4 PNGs. One post!
 
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Worse, the picture spam are often PNG images weighing over 3 MiB each.
Not to mention wasting a crapload of bandwidth for W1zzard since all of these images are hosted by the forum.

What happened to the 2MB limit that used to be imposed on images hosted by TPU? W1z needs to reimplement that. Posting huge 3MB+ PNG files is stupid.
 

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Storage Samsung 980 Pro, Seagate Exos X20 TB 7200 RPM
Display(s) Nixeus NX-EDG274K (3840x2160@144 DP) + Samsung SyncMaster 906BW (1440x900@60 HDMI-DVI)
Case Coolermaster HAF 932 w/ USB 3.0 5.25" bay + USB 3.2 (A+C) 3.5" bay
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1150, Micca OriGen+
Power Supply Enermax Platimax 850w
Mouse Nixeus REVEL-X
Keyboard Tesoro Excalibur
Software Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Benchmark Scores Faster than the tortoise; slower than the hare.
That rule only applies to https://www.techpowerup.org/
All of the images in the table above were attached directly to the posts which apparently has no limit (or a large file size limit).

The problem is that users can circumvent both rules by [img][/img] pictures hosted elsewhere (e.g. Steam...at least those are all JPGs with a modicum of lossiness).

I only really have a problem with it in that one specific thread because it's not a thread that should be full of images like a project log, for sale thread, funny pictures thread, or screenshot thread. When you click on those threads, you know what you're getting in to.
 
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