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Should hard disk drives be banned from work Pc's

Should all work Pc's use an SSD's for main Os, or more

  • Yes, ban them legally ,I'm sick of the wait times to reboot.

    Votes: 12 31.6%
  • No, I like the free Skiving/down time.

    Votes: 21 55.3%
  • Maybe , a compromise perhaps, elaborate.

    Votes: 5 13.2%

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I am totally confused by corporate reluctance to upgrade from what is in my opinion an unusable solution, ie hard disk drives.
For an Os drive an SSD is now essential, especially in an environment where time is money, directly.

To me it's mental that I can update a PC for an hour , doing no productive work and that's accepted.

Yet talk about golf too much( for me golf =cars) and you could visit Hr.
 

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Nope, it is not the governments job to tell corporations how they optimize their workflow.

If they want to put off upgrades and instead pay for the downtime(and the tech's time if they are paying PC tech's by the hour) then that's their option.
 
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Making a law for something like this is just plain dumb. This is one example of what government overreach would look like.
 
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I honestly thought this thread was a complete joke at first - it must be...
 
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I just thought those hdd loading times are free coffee breaks. Isn't that how things always work?

Edit : On serious note, wish more places move to an ssd, those hdd is just too slow and after long use they just slow down after they age.
 
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I am totally confused by corporate reluctance to upgrade from what is in my opinion an unusable solution, ie hard disk drives.
For an Os drive an SSD is now essential, especially in an environment where time is money, directly.

To me it's mental that I can update a PC for an hour , doing no productive work and that's accepted.

Yet talk about golf too much( for me golf =cars) and you could visit Hr.
I feel your frustration. The last Windows update tied my work PC up for 45 minutes. I couldn't believe it. The update just went on and on and on.

I think it's about the main boss having a lack of understanding about tech and how much of a difference an SSD would bring to updates and such and simply looks at the fact that HDD are cheaper than SSD and when you are buying several hundred PCs a year it looks good on paper to stick with HDD.
 
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A law?!

Being an old mainframe guy hating local storage on workstations I agree, but making it a legal finable offence by legal authorities is a bit too " Government Big Brother"... Unless you like that type of thing...
 
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For an Os drive an SSD is now essential, especially in an environment where time is money, directly.
Have you tried explaining to upper management the time vs cost that would be saved by moving even a Sandy Bridge era PC to an SSD?
 
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I am totally confused by corporate reluctance to upgrade from what is in my opinion an unusable solution, ie hard disk drives.
For an Os drive an SSD is now essential, especially in an environment where time is money, directly.

To me it's mental that I can update a PC for an hour , doing no productive work and that's accepted.

Yet talk about golf too much( for me golf =cars) and you could visit Hr.
You misunderstand. This is your employer being responsible towards his employees, giving everybody spare time to relax and avoid burn-out - and no possibility to feel guilty about doing nothing for 5 to 10 minutes. This is a medical strategy, and thus indirectly also a cost reduction. They're also telling you that your waiting is worth less than a PC upgrade.

Explain to me where you're losing out here? :roll:

Jokes aside, did you know that many countries have a laws/rules/regulations that tell employers they must offer their employees 10 mins / 2 hours of screen time, away from seating position and screen? As silly as the above sounds, it'd actually be a good thing.
 
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Banned? Of course not. That's just plain silly.

Contrary to what some seem to think, most workers are not sitting around waiting for their files to load. And even when they do need to wait, most people know how to multitask.

When I worked where we shutdown our systems each time, first thing I did in the morning was power on my system, then grab my coffee cup. When I got back to my desk with my hot coffee and donut, my computer was up and running. After that, any data I needed came from the servers, not my local drive.

Yes, time is money but there would have to be a lot of wasted time to make up for the money SSDs cost.
 

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it honestly depends.... when my dad worked in a bank about 10years+ ago. they had machines that were still running old Intel Pentium IIs IIIs and 4s and nobody complained because they were NEVER turned off. almost all the processing was handled by the hundreds of server units they had on every floor creating some sort of super mesh network and internet browsers and productivity apps like word, powerpoint, excel etc etc dont exactly need AMD threadripper levels of processing to run....

In fact. the oldest machine my dad pulled out was still running EDO Ram.
 
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Making a law for something like this is just plain dumb. This is one example of what government overreach would look like.
It's not official but ill tell you this, it's the law to not call your boss a knob head, did any legal system make this law no.

So winding back the retoric , not law , common sense rule then.

@biffzinker yes , no luck he hopes to have a new laptop with one soon though!

@Bill_Bright

We do different jobs, Part of my job sometimes includes power cycling the same Instrument(which incorporates a PC) and processing PC a few times in a day with No say on ,if it's convenient , or I have the time ,it's got to be done.

My company would bill another company $175(not anywhere near what I get paid obviously) /hr for my time and an SSD is expensive??/ seriously
 
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I'd like laws against dumb ideas. No wait, I support dumb ideas and especially the right for anyone to have one. This is ridiculous.
 
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poor disc drives, we wouldn't be where we are now without them but lord I was glad to see the back of them. :)
 
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Have you tried explaining to upper management the time vs cost that would be saved by moving even a Sandy Bridge era PC to an SSD?
SB era? pfft I have had to use a HP compaq for the last 2 weeks and it was rocking a.......... E6850 dual core, 160GB HDD and 2GB DDR2, not too mention the Q35 chipset graphics that could just about display windows (youtube at 360p was just about playable) 2 mins startup time, another 1 min when at the desktop just to open a browser and forget about updates or multiple browser tabs, opening up explorer whilst doing anything, pretty much doing anything on it was nasty af.... the first day or so of using it and I bought a 120GB SSD, a Q9450, 4GB RAM and a measly little AMD HD 7470 LP GPU and it's honestly a different machine, boot times are similar to my main rig, I can open up a browser or app as soon as the desktop is up without it halting to a stuttering mess, multiple browsser tabs and background apps are no biggy, I've even installed steam on it and ran a few games albeit at lower res and settings than I'd like and it still copes with these pretty darn good for the most part, I plan to throw in a 1050ti or similar (needs low profile) when I'm done with it and give it to my kids for fortnite and minecraft etc and call it a day as it's now 5x as fast and responsive as it was and you can actually use it as a general everyday comp compared to before and with the 1050ti it will be maxed out.

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Maybe we should have stuck with the good ol' days..........

Not!

 
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Lets ban motherboards with ps/2 ports and instantly close all companies manufacturing such boards.
 
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Modern HDD's (2tb+) are pretty darn fast, even when used as a boot drive thanks to platter size increases and new tech, old HDD's <500Gb do really suck but hey, they have been about for at least 10 years whaddya expect?
 
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Lets ban motherboards with ps/2 ports and instantly close all companies manufacturing such boards.
I'll bite, what's wrong with a couple of PS/2 ports? You know they get along with the obsolete floppy, parallel, and serial port headers on today's boards.
 
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Lets ban motherboards with ps/2 ports and instantly close all companies manufacturing such boards.
So basically ban LN2 boards? Totally a good idea.
 
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for OS maybe but when you need mass storage of massive amounts of data and records. Massive raid array of disk's are far more cost effective solution then ssd's. Speed that comes outta that array will keep up with anything. Not sure how much has changed in terms of data recovery off SSD's but I expect recovering data of a dead single SSD probably cost a bit more then a HDD.
 
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TL DR thread...

I mean, I get it... but at an enterprise level it's not like you can simply say I want new pcs and boom they are there.. or simply upgrade to ssds. It takes time and effort... a lot of it for large deployments. That said, even if boot takes a minute, and office takes 3 seconds instead of 1 to come up... is it really worth the time and effort for such a deployment or purchase? When in say, two years the natural life cycle comes up (assuming 4 year life cycle) and then it can be done?

These days ssds are a base for workstations anyway... for years really. Unless you are a small company and hang on to pcs 'forever'... but then getting ssds deployed is easier.

So basically ban LN2 boards? Totally a good idea.
??????
Some pretty cheap arse non ln2 boards have these too. ;)
 
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winding back the retoric , not law , common sense rule then.
Common sense is always a well-known solution to every human problem. It is neat, plausible, and often wrong.
 
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