Should I be worried about this?

[osterpaulie]

Hello there! I'm a lawyer who knows nothing about tech. I recently bought a 5600x ryzen to play Valorant. When I'm playing this happens:

Should I be worried about PPT or temperature?
What's that ppt?
Is there anything i can do to fix it?
Pls help me! xD
thank uuu

 

[Frick]

Do you experience problems? Because those numbers are all good. PPT means Power Package Tracking and is basically the power limit.

 

[osterpaulie]

Do you experience problems? Because those numbers are all good. PPT means Power Package Tracking and is basically the power limit.

Not really, the computer works truly good. But I'm worried bc it's in yellow. Is there a problem if it reaches 90% for example? It only happens when I'm playing Valorant

 

[AusWolf]

Not really, the computer works truly good. But I'm worried bc it's in yellow. Is there a problem if it reaches 90% for example? It only happens when I'm playing Valorant

There's no problem at all. It means that your CPU is allowed to consume 76 Watts maximum, and it's currently using 82% of that limit. It will reduce clock speed and voltage if it reaches 100%, but 1. it probably won't happen in that game, 2. even if it does, you probably won't notice any difference.

 

[osterpaulie]

There's no problem at all. It means that your CPU is allowed to consume 76 Watts maximum, and it's currently using 82% of that limit. It will reduce clock speed and voltage if it reaches 100%, but 1. it probably won't happen in that game, 2. even if it does, you probably won't notice any difference.

So it would still be fine if it reaches 100% cause it does reach 90% during the game

 

[Deleted member 205776]

As someone who's constantly worried about temperatures and CPU monitoring when there's 0 need to, just close Ryzen Master and enjoy your PC. Everything's fine.

Don't become like me. I built this thing months ago and I have yet to stop worrying and start enjoying it.

 

[osterpaulie]

As someone who's constantly worried about temperatures and CPU monitoring when there's 0 need to, just close Ryzen Master and enjoy your PC. Everything's fine.

Don't become like me. I built this thing months ago and I have yet to stop worrying and start enjoying it.

So even if it reaches 100% it would still be ok? is 70 degrees ok while gaming aswell?

 

[R-T-B]

So even if it reaches 100% it would still be ok? is 70 degrees ok while gaming aswell?

Yes. Think of it as an RPM limiter. It doesn't hurt to hit it, but it does stop the power/heat from rising above that point. It's just to keep the CPU within advertised specifications, and is normal behavior.

 

[robot zombie]

Lookin good! Part of the beauty of these chips is that while they do allow a lot of configuring, you don't really need to in order for them to run well. On good boards, they generally just do. Ryzen chips have a pretty significant power and thermal regulation system. You can trust it. It's bypassing that which causes problems for inexperienced users. By default, it's holding a temperature it likes for the amount of power it is willing to use on whatever computational load it is seeing. Its behavior is dependent on a handful of very closely-monitored parameters within the chip. It will regulate the amount of power it takes and work it will do based on these things. You won't need to worry about that. It'll do its thing.

It'll hit the power limit when you game if load and utilization are sufficiently high, but temperature is still low enough to juice it. As you put more work and thus current load on more cores, that amounts to heat. The chip has to start winding down on that at some point, to protect the silicon. So no, maxing that limit isn't a problem. It's doing what it is supposed to do at that point, not letting the chip work hard enough to cook itself. Worth noting, if the temperature continues to rise, it will clock down more and you'll fall further below the power limit until it returns to a level that allows it to clock up again. But it will never hit temperatures that can hurt it. It goes down until it is safe. This is where cooling comes in. You can run it on the chintziest cooler imaginable and it will still run and be safe without adjustment. It just won't run as fast. Slap a high-end cooler on it and see the maximum performance of the chip.

 

[osterpaulie]

Lookin good! Part of the beauty of these chips is that while they do allow a lot of configuring, you don't really need to in order for them to run well. On good boards, they generally just do. Ryzen chips have a pretty significant power and thermal regulation system. You can trust it. It's bypassing that which causes problems for inexperienced users. By default, it's holding a temperature it likes for the amount of power it is willing to use on whatever computational load it is seeing. Its behavior is dependent on a handful of very closely-monitored parameters within the chip. It will regulate the amount of power it takes and work it will do based on these things. You won't need to worry about that. It'll do its thing.

It'll hit the power limit when you game if load and utilization are sufficiently high, but temperature is still low enough to juice it. As you put more work and thus current load on more cores, that amounts to heat. The chip has to start winding down on that at some point, to protect the silicon. So no, maxing that limit isn't a problem. It's doing what it is supposed to do at that point, not letting the chip work hard enough to cook itself. Worth noting, if the temperature continues to rise, it will clock down more and you'll fall further below the power limit until it returns to a level that allows it to clock up again. But it will never hit temperatures that can hurt it. It goes down until it is safe. This is where cooling comes in. You can run it on the chintziest cooler imaginable and it will still run and be safe without adjustment. It just won't run as fast. Slap a high-end cooler on it and see the maximum performance of the chi

What about 75 degrees while playing? Is that safe too?

 

[Deleted member 205776]

What about 75 degrees while playing? Is that safe too?

Dude it's okay stop worrying. Zen 3 (your CPU's architecture) uses thermal headroom to boost more aggressively than any other CPU before it. You should start worrying when you hit 95C which won't happen.

 

[robot zombie]

What about 75 degrees while playing? Is that safe too?

Generally speaking, yes. If we were talking about a manual overclock, I could be concerned, as the temperature in combination with fixed voltages set may be providing more current than the chip can handle at that temperature. Even then, it's a special scenario where that's happening, nothing like yours. But left to regulate itself, it will often choose to sit at quite high temperatures in order to get the performance out. But what you don't see is how it is regulating the voltage and current output to keep that all safe. It's not an issue. You will see these things get hot under load, sometimes even with good cooling. They will use every bit of headroom they can get. If there's room to run hotter and it can do more hotter, it will run hotter. They can handle that heat, it's where some of the performance over past gens comes from.

If you want to see better temperatures, you will need to look at your cooling situation. It is possible to get them cooler than that, and they will perform better, but that can cost money and the gains might not be worth it. What is your case airflow like? Are you using the cooler that came with it? How is the temperature at idle? If you provide specs, we may be able to help you bring that temperature down, if it really concerns you.

To quote Robert Hallock, technical marketing director for AMD, "Yes. I want to be clear with everyone that AMD views temps up to 90C (5800X/5900X/5950X) and 95C (5600X) as typical and by design for full load conditions. Having a higher maximum temperature supported by the silicon and firmware allows the CPU to pursue higher and longer boost performance before the algorithm pulls back for thermal reasons."

A little further reading: https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-views-ryzen-5000-cpu-temperatures-up-to-95c-as-typical-and-by-design/

....or back to the source, which is admittedly a reddit post. Worth mentioning, the fact that it stands does give this some credibility. AMD comes out and says otherwise when people make stuff up on reddit. This is from the main AMD reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jsy8bw

 

[SuperTweaker]

You are just fine. Three different PC builders say so.

 

[robot zombie]

That the newest Ryzens run hotter than the old ones is common knowledge at this point. They could ask anywhere else and get about the same answers.

 

[osterpaulie]

So, whenever I'm playing CSGO my ryzen 5600x goes up to 70 C with the stock cooler. Is it safe? or should i do something to fix it?

 

[plastiscɧ]

So, whenever I'm playing CSGO my ryzen 5600x goes up to 70 C with the stock cooler. Is it safe? or should i do something to fix it?

as long as it doesn't smell burned everything is fine.



(i have those friends, their graphiccards started smelling and steaming)

just enjoy the game. anyway if it's getting too hot your bios will throttle the performance down, and this my friend is then def. recognizeable!
stuttering begins
then u can intervene. not just now.

 

[robot zombie]

Dude, I would say that's decent on the stock cooler! Hold on... literally straight from AMD.

What this means is, it can go as high as 95C and that is normal and expected. A basic, entry-level cooler, like on the level of the stock one can run no lower than 80C wide-open (good case cooling,) but still as high as 95C under full load. That implies sustained load. Unlikely in normal use, but that is the actual headroom. It's not just there as a 'death zone' like on older chips. It can stay there for a while with the algorithms regulating it. And that is a much heavier scenario than yours. That is the maximum stress on the chip before it won't allow more. You aren't even touching it.

And according to this you could STILL expect as high as 80C under full load with the best cooler. It is straight up just how they are made. This is what they do, out of the box. If this was a problem, they wouldn't be sold this way.

Games tend not to put full loads on multicore CPUs. CSGO is nothing crazy. They use them, of course, but it's not the same as a benchmark straight maxing all cores. In that case, the chip gives all it has up into the 90s. I don't know what utilization numbers look like from your image, but if we look at where you are in the power window, I'd say your temps line up with the load on the chip, given stock cooling. If anything, you could call it optimal.

Again, you can either upgrade your cooler if it makes you feel better or let it run as is. That's really your call to make, but at some point you need to decide for yourself what you want to do about it. If you don't like your temperatures, you either throttle it down, play with fan curves, or ultimately... get better cooling. I just think that would be a shame if the performance and noise are good for you... because the temperature is fine.

 

[mama]

70 C is good for gaming. If you want to check if there is a problem with the chip or setup then download HWinfo64. Get CPUZ. Stress test the CPU with CPUZ and monitor temps, clock frequencies and voltages with HWinfo64. If any are outside the parameters of the chip then you have a problem (which is most likely fixable in any event).

 

[Atomic77]

As Bob Marley says in the song 3 birds on a tree. Don't worry about a thing. every little thing is going to be all right.

 

[AusWolf]

So it would still be fine if it reaches 100% cause it does reach 90% during the game

Yes. Think of it as a power consumption limiter. If the CPU is at 100% PPT, it will start lowering clocks and voltages ever so slightly that you won't even notice.

70 °C is lovely from a modern Ryzen.

 

[Mussels]

So, whenever I'm playing CSGO my ryzen 5600x goes up to 70 C with the stock cooler. Is it safe? or should i do something to fix it?

It's safe. You might get a small speed boost (less than 5%) with a better cooler as it can boost a little higher, but you're fine.

Those numbers are just for information purposes, you'd only worry if the temperature was in the red - the rest in the red just mean its working hard. Yellow? Pfft, it's barely trying.

 

[SuperTweaker]

@ostherpaulie

You have now earned on your online tech-certification on graphic card thermal comprehension and modifications.

 

[sowhat]

OP,
What of the software are you using for checking the system?

 

[Muaadib]

OP,
What of the software are you using for checking the system?

Looks like its Ryzen Master.

 

[Tomgang]

Don't worry about it. There is nothing wrong with it hitting 100 % in any of the power limits. The cpu will adjust clock after the power limits on its own. Those power limits are set by amd and its designed to run with those limits to be safe.

Temp is just Fine. My own 5600X hits 70c at full load as well with a low profile noctua cooler and I am not worried. Max temp for it is 95C and after that it will what is called thermal throttle it self. I will say, you shut worry if it begins to go to 85C and do something about if gets close to 90C. If that happens, that's when I will be worried. Every thing up to 80C I feel safe. So 70C or 75C is not to be concerned about.